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Topic: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - page 608. (Read 1811611 times)

hero member
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Greed is a persistent illusion. I will admit I refuse to sell but all things must come to balance. A big sell is likely.

I think there's something to be gleaned from looking at this one; maybe more so if I jiggle the words around a bit which whilst it may take us away from what The Fool was saying, I think represents the position of some fools at least:

Greed is refusing to sell even when you believe an imminent big sell is likely.

Sayings such as 'All things must come to balance' and 'If it seems too good to be true it probably is too good to be true' etc. form part of the belief structure of many and so even if there are no rational reasons arising out of the fundamentals to believe the price will go down, if enough of the Bitcoin being held now is in the hands of people who believe this is unsustainable simply because the percentage profit 'feels too high', 'isn't right', 'can't be sustainable' etc. and yet they still hold onto their Bitcoin hoping against their 'better judgement' that it will keep going up then we really do have the makings of a 'crash' because these are the weak hands who are likely to panic sell even as the price plummets.

Whether this happens and how quickly and deeply it goes depends on the proportion of Bitcoins in the hands of those who think that way relative to the amount of fiat available to stronger hands to say 'thank you very much' and pick up the cheap coins Smiley  The ratio between the two may be one way of expressing what I see as the primary difference between today and 08 Jun 2011.
legendary
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Seriously though, grats to everyone who was strong enough to hold.


i think soon the line will be

"congrats to everyone that was smart enough to sell"

Last price:$32.49900 High:$33.20000 Low:$30.79010 Volume:79911 BTC Weighted Avg:$31.92990

So you sold?

nope. overall I bought. hindsight says i should have sold some over $33

anyway:

From:   [email protected]
Sent:   Wed 2/27/13 6:28 PM
To:   420
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Smiley
legendary
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wtf? all my sell orders which were filled b4 the wall taken down.

Now, they're all gone as if i never sold any BTC


Goxxed ?
legendary
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place your bets smart asses:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1262

Done !

I'm surprised that is so little bids on that bet !

A nice and actual bet, If you're a speculator, just bet on it to hedge things Wink

legendary
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Someone is making MtGox Live dizzy again!  There were many small buys in quick succession.  I think we are seeing some new kind of HFT testing out the system (just a guess).



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sr. member
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In my view its like today. If I tell you now that 1BTC will be worth 1000$ within 2 years, you might lol at me. Same thing for the guys in 2010 when they said something about 10$... A run to 50$, 100$... will let more EAs or even investors from nowadays, "cash out".

LOL! Only $1000? Ha, good one! Wink

Only 3125% from here Grin
sr. member
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bitcoin is very much and always has been undervalued, we all know it has the potential to go to 1000$ a coin due to moderate success, but prices have been kept low all this time because the perceived risk was crazy high and early adopters were cashing out a few million dollars, this perceived risk appears to be less and less of a concern these days... and investors (I'm taking real investors, not a bunch of little users buying 1000$ worth...) are now willing to come aboard...

we could very well see 1000$ bitcoins b4 the end of the year.

Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.  I'm pretty close, and most of mine was gone around $1.  I never expected this level of adoption, not even back when it was 6 cents each; so I had been spending my stash the entire way.  Granted, there is no way that I could actually have *lost* value after a certain point, even if the coins I had left went to zero; but if I'm all but busted, who else is?

How I wish I had known about Bitcoin when you did. I didn't learn about it much later, but my story is the polar opposite of yours. If I'm still all in, who else is?

I'm not trying to troll, just offering a different point of view to the "all but cashed out" option.

In my view its like today. If I tell you now that 1BTC will be worth 1000$ within 2 years, you might lol at me. Same thing for the guys in 2010 when they said something about 10$... A run to 50$, 100$... will let more EAs or even investors from nowadays, "cash out".
hero member
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Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement?


I would not say "all", but definitely they freaked out quite a bit: http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed-min-year?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=
legendary
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I wonder if the large jump over the old high was spontaneous enthusiasm, or a carefully controlled test by a government or investment bank to test market depth.

Wouldn't be to test market depth.  That's a visable metric.

Perhaps then to test if the visible metric could accurately predict the price change of a given (LARGE) sized inflow, structure in a particular way?
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Weighted companion cube
Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.
Source to back up your generalizing statement?
legendary
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bitcoin is very much and always has been undervalued, we all know it has the potential to go to 1000$ a coin due to moderate success, but prices have been kept low all this time because the perceived risk was crazy high and early adopters were cashing out a few million dollars, this perceived risk appears to be less and less of a concern these days... and investors (I'm taking real investors, not a bunch of little users buying 1000$ worth...) are now willing to come aboard...

we could very well see 1000$ bitcoins b4 the end of the year.

Part of it might be that the early investors you speak of are all but cashed out.  I'm pretty close, and most of mine was gone around $1.  I never expected this level of adoption, not even back when it was 6 cents each; so I had been spending my stash the entire way.  Granted, there is no way that I could actually have *lost* value after a certain point, even if the coins I had left went to zero; but if I'm all but busted, who else is?
legendary
Activity: 1708
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I wonder if the large jump over the old high was spontaneous enthusiasm, or a carefully controlled test by a government or investment bank to test market depth.

Wouldn't be to test market depth.  That's a visable metric.
hero member
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DING DING DING I LOSE!!!!!!

fuck soooo close...
.....But you didn't say Uncle! Tongue

On hitting over $33,That is just insane.We need a shuttle pic with bullhorns on the front,lol.
donator
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Congratulations gentlemen, we've just broken the Bitcoin all-time high.

wooohooooo. I just got up... what a nice morning.

Also, I think adams account got hacked, he's talking bullish.
legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
i sold out to the highest bidder, i lost my bet, whats done is done... i can't take it back and theirs no use being in denial anymore.

 bitcoin is being is now being priced by real big shot investors.

we will continue to move up... 50$ is a given 100$ is inevitable and 1000$ is the target  Cool  

Spoken like a true perma-bull.
Welcome to the herd.
legendary
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rippleFanatic


Thanks, caught that too. He moved it to $38.00, about 2.5k BTC.
hero member
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Let me see if I can get it right, Adam:"Oh, I lost the bet, fuck it was so close! Shocked Adding insult to the injury is that I panic sold at $25.5, now all my play money is gone! Bitcoin, why are you so cruel to me? Cry Wait for it, I still get some bitcoins in my paper wallet right? Smiley  So maybe someday the price will go to $1000/BTC Roll Eyes then I will be.......RICH!!! Cheesy YAY!! Fuck that bet, I am gonna turn bullish and scream 'BUY! BUY! BUY!' from now on! Cool"
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legendary
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I wonder if the large jump over the old high was spontaneous enthusiasm, or a carefully controlled test by a government or investment bank to test market depth.
legendary
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rippleFanatic
Watching that escalate was really spectacular.
What happens this weekend?

Dip. Then new money the following week.
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