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Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2017, 03:55:48 PM

Until such wallet exists and if you don't want to pay fees in a mixer service you can use a gambling website to send your deposit there. Play a single bet with minimal value like 1 mBitcoin and wait a few hours, withdraw to another address from the one you send your deposit. Keep creating as many wallets as you like and you can use this simple yet effective way of mixing your coins and getting fresh coins, fresh for you only.

Many gambling websites would not tolerate this behavior for long. They want you to actually gamble there
and lose your funds in the process and not become a partner in crime for crypto laundering.

Some operators even explicitly prohibit this kind of behavior in their terms of service.

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Quote from: TryNinja on September 11, 2017, 02:34:25 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on September 11, 2017, 02:09:05 PM

Now that you mentioned it, I wonder what the developments have been with Samourai and Dark Wallet. Just checked both websites and Samourai seems still in Alpha, DW in public beta.

The former supposedly worked on some mixing features such as randomised outputs on each spend while DW would implement an extended CoinJoin. I've only seen the DarkSend/PrivateSend feature on an a rather poorly supported alt wallet (no, not Dash but Bitradio haha) but never used it. I don't currently have the means to test either, but now you know and can try!

AFAIK Dark Wallet development is stalled since 2016 and I haven't seen any relevant progress since then. And since the project is still in beta, I wouldn't risk my coins with them. That's the problem with many of those projects. They never keep going.

Ah, right, thanks for that. Amir Taaki had a very recent interview about Bitcoin (extreme libertarian Bitcoinist, believes in core but also believes Bitcoin needs to return to its ideological roots) and he was still referred to as the "co-organiser" (whatever that means) of Dark Wallet. Maybe I misheard or read too much, but it seemed a lot like DW was very much alive. All the same, I wouldn't mind testing a bit of coin on stuff like that - just more concerned with screwing my computer up is all

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Quote from: Zocadas on September 12, 2017, 01:47:01 AM

Quote from: itod on September 11, 2017, 06:52:27 PM

It is possible, already exists and is called Monero wallet. Problem is it is not Bitcoin wallet.

So it is the best to exchange to monero, xrp, ZCash and so on?

Not necessarily so. Anonymity is a nice coin property, but obviously not the most important in the eyes of the majority of the users. Market dictates the price in it's mysterious ways.

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Quote from: itod on September 11, 2017, 06:52:27 PM

It is possible, already exists and is called Monero wallet. Problem is it is not Bitcoin wallet.

So it is the best to exchange to monero, xrp, ZCash and so on?

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It is possible, already exists and is called Monero wallet. Problem is it is not Bitcoin wallet.

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Seems not so easy without a good mixer. Sounded so good with the gambling site.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2017, 03:55:48 PM

Until such wallet exists and if you don't want to pay fees in a mixer service you can use a gambling website to send your deposit there. Play a single bet with minimal value like 1 mBitcoin and wait a few hours, withdraw to another address from the one you send your deposit. Keep creating as many wallets as you like and you can use this simple yet effective way of mixing your coins and getting fresh coins, fresh for you only.

What if the betting site logs every movement? A trace would be left.

And also you have to be careful to split the withdrawal to multiple wallets or one can guess the path by observing the same amount being transfered for the deposit on the betting site and the withdrawal.

At the end of the day you can forget about these tricks by connecting the wallet via TOR for peace of mind

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Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2017, 03:55:48 PM

Until such wallet exists and if you don't want to pay fees in a mixer service you can use a gambling website to send your deposit there. Play a single bet with minimal value like 1 mBitcoin and wait a few hours, withdraw to another address from the one you send your deposit. Keep creating as many wallets as you like and you can use this simple yet effective way of mixing your coins and getting fresh coins, fresh for you only.

Awesome suggestion. That is a good solution until we have our mixer wallet.

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Until such wallet exists and if you don't want to pay fees in a mixer service you can use a gambling website to send your deposit there. Play a single bet with minimal value like 1 mBitcoin and wait a few hours, withdraw to another address from the one you send your deposit. Keep creating as many wallets as you like and you can use this simple yet effective way of mixing your coins and getting fresh coins, fresh for you only.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 11, 2017, 02:09:05 PM

Now that you mentioned it, I wonder what the developments have been with Samourai and Dark Wallet. Just checked both websites and Samourai seems still in Alpha, DW in public beta.

The former supposedly worked on some mixing features such as randomised outputs on each spend while DW would implement an extended CoinJoin. I've only seen the DarkSend/PrivateSend feature on an a rather poorly supported alt wallet (no, not Dash but Bitradio haha) but never used it. I don't currently have the means to test either, but now you know and can try!

AFAIK Dark Wallet development is stalled since 2016 and I haven't seen any relevant progress since then. And since the project is still in beta, I wouldn't risk my coins with them. That's the problem with many of those projects. They never keep going.

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Properly mixing coins may seem like a daunting task to those who aren’t very familiar with Bitcoin, but it is actually a simple process that will only take a few minutes of your time for each deposit.

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Now that you mentioned it, I wonder what the developments have been with Samourai and Dark Wallet. Just checked both websites and Samourai seems still in Alpha, DW in public beta.

The former supposedly worked on some mixing features such as randomised outputs on each spend while DW would implement an extended CoinJoin. I've only seen the DarkSend/PrivateSend feature on an a rather poorly supported alt wallet (no, not Dash but Bitradio haha) but never used it. I don't currently have the means to test either, but now you know and can try!

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So far I haven't heard of such combination but it sounds interesting to me. It would be very useful to have wallet with such characteristics and a lot of Bitcoin users would be interested in it, I'm sure. I don't know how this could be done in technical way but if someone has some more information or ideas, please share here.

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Wouldn't that be great to have wallet with private keys and an anonymizer?
Is that possible?

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