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Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 03:44:12 AM

Hi, there, i have wallet seed from 2014
One of the words are "interruptions"
Electrum wallet do not have this word now.
Where i could import my seed?
There are 19 or 20 words in my seed.
First word is "save" so im not sure it is included or not, thats why im sayig it could be 20 or 19 words.
Thank you for the help in advance

Most of the answers above are wrong or incorrect regarding blockchain.com (info) seed.

The recovery seed you might have is not part of the private key or seed, as in 2014 blockchain.com (info) did not use seed to store your keys but rather your password to your account.

And each account in 2014 on blockchain.com (info) was generated randomly.

If you have a wallet that was later converted in 2015/2016 to a HD wallet all the keys from the pre-HD are were imported separately, but most importantly, the seed has nothing to do with your wallet address or private key.

What you have to do first is get your wallet ID, which should have been mailed to your inbox when you created the account together with a backup of your wallet called wallet.aes.json

If not try the reminder page together with all your emails you had in 2014, they will send you the wallet ID

lastly, the thread should be move from electrum to whatever fits best, but its not an electrum question.

/KX

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the way the wallet recovery tool here works is that it considers the first three words a checksum and they have to be from the v2 list and the rest can be from v3 where interruptions etc. are. if the first 3 are not in v2 it'll display that unknown word error. so even according to their own rules the mnemonic is incorrect.

if you're certain the phrase you have is correct and you think there's enough money in that wallet to justify it you may consider hiring a javascript developer to help you decode this.

note you still need the uuid of the wallet. have you had any luck finding that in your email archives?

overall this is a mess and blockchain.info has really let down old users of its wallet.

edit: also not really an electrum issue. you may have better luck if you ask a mod to move it to the technical support forum.

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Just found another list of words for blockchain.info (See line 320)
I entered some of words in this list and didn't get the "unknown word" error. Seems that the recovery tool is compatible only with this list.

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Quote from: Abdussamad on May 25, 2020, 09:21:03 AM

the list of words is in the blockchain.info list posted by brewmaster above. speculating on other wallets is pointless. the recovery link bob123 posted is for the newer version. the legacy wallet recovery is here:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/forgot-password

these words are not a wallet seed. these old wallets were not HD wallets. the words are a password recovery phrase i.e. the wallet password encoded as a series of words. in addition to the password you will also need the user id which you can only get by searching your email archives for emails from blockchain.info. the uid consists of letters, digits and hyphens and is not a user friendly username. once you have both you can login to your wallet.

This legacy recovery tool doesnt understand word "interruptions" and it makes me think it can be different wallet, not a blockchain.info

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the list of words is in the blockchain.info list posted by brewmaster above. speculating on other wallets is pointless. the recovery link bob123 posted is for the newer version. the legacy wallet recovery is here:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/forgot-password

these words are not a wallet seed. these old wallets were not HD wallets. the words are a password recovery phrase i.e. the wallet password encoded as a series of words. in addition to the password you will also need the user id which you can only get by searching your email archives for emails from blockchain.info. the uid consists of letters, digits and hyphens and is not a user friendly username. once you have both you can login to your wallet.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 25, 2020, 05:26:44 AM

Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 05:06:15 AM

Brings me empty address, probably its one of my first address'es i ever created and never used it.

A brainwallet will always generate an address, regardless of what you enter as a "passphrase". Because it uses a different method of turning the words in to a private key than any other wallet, just because the address on the brainwallet is empty doesn't mean your words don't still lead to a funded address elsewhere. If I took the words for my main cold storage wallet and put them in to the brainwallet, I would also get an empty address, even though my cold storage is obviously not empty.

I would still contact blockchain.com support. Their wallet seems to be the most likely source of your words. Do you still have access the email address you may have used in 2014 when creating a wallet?

Quote from: bob123 on May 25, 2020, 03:54:01 AM

If it is a BIP39 mnemonic code, the number of words has to be divisible by 4. So this should mean its 20 words.

BIP39 phrases are divisible by 3, not 4. 12, 15, 18, 21 or 24 words.

Yes, i do have access to the email that was used creating that wallet, if thats the case. Will try their support and will bring the outcome. Thank you lads

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Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 05:06:15 AM

Brings me empty address, probably its one of my first address'es i ever created and never used it.

A brainwallet will always generate an address, regardless of what you enter as a "passphrase". Because it uses a different method of turning the words in to a private key than any other wallet, just because the address on the brainwallet is empty doesn't mean your words don't still lead to a funded address elsewhere. If I took the words for my main cold storage wallet and put them in to the brainwallet, I would also get an empty address, even though my cold storage is obviously not empty.

I would still contact blockchain.com support. Their wallet seems to be the most likely source of your words. Do you still have access the email address you may have used in 2014 when creating a wallet?

Quote from: bob123 on May 25, 2020, 03:54:01 AM

If it is a BIP39 mnemonic code, the number of words has to be divisible by 4. So this should mean its 20 words.

BIP39 phrases are divisible by 3, not 4. 12, 15, 18, 21 or 24 words.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 25, 2020, 04:56:17 AM

Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:23:14 AM

Meanwhile anyone else know what wallet creation services used such a words?

as it was mentioned, it is also possible that your list belongs to a brainwallet. try this one and see if that works:
https://brainwalletx.github.io/

it is best if you download the zip file from GitHub and run that instead of the website itself. the website may be recording whatever you enter.

Thank you mate, i did that.
Brings me empty address, probably its one of my first address'es i ever created and never used it.
It is how it is.
Anyway, i appreciate your help guys, that was fast.
Thousand thanks

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Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:23:14 AM

Meanwhile anyone else know what wallet creation services used such a words?

as it was mentioned, it is also possible that your list belongs to a brainwallet. try this one and see if that works:
https://brainwalletx.github.io/

it is best if you download the zip file from GitHub and run that instead of the website itself. the website may be recording whatever you enter.

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Quote from: Chivas Regal on May 25, 2020, 04:45:55 AM

You should really exercise great care providing any-more seed words than you already have.

Even if i would give you all the words without correct order it would be impossible to hack it. We all know that, be sure i know what is bitcoin and how important is not to leak my seed.

Still looking a way to import my seed. Aprreciate your help guys

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Cheers!

You should really exercise great care providing any-more seed words than you already have.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on May 25, 2020, 04:36:31 AM

Seems that there's a problem with blockchain.com recovery tool. I tried it with some words in the list provided by BrewMaster. For all of them, it gave me "unknown word" error.

Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:23:14 AM

Meanwhile anyone else know what wallet creation services used such a words?

I still believe that's blockchain wallet. But It can be brainwallet too.
In a brainwallet you can use any random word.

Go to https://www.bitaddress.org/, click on "brain wallet" and enter your words. It will give you a bitcoin address and a private key. Then use a bitcoin explorer to check the balance of that address.

Note:
For your security, use bitaddress offline.

Did that.
Both compressed and uncompressed address'es were empty with no transaction history :/

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Seems that there's a problem with blockchain.com recovery tool. I tried it with some words in the list provided by BrewMaster. For all of them, it gave me "unknown word" error.

Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:23:14 AM

Meanwhile anyone else know what wallet creation services used such a words?

I still believe that's blockchain wallet. But It can be brainwallet too.
In a brainwallet you can use any random word.

Go to https://www.bitaddress.org/, click on "brain wallet" and enter your words. It will give you a bitcoin address and a private key. Then use a bitcoin explorer to check the balance of that address.

Note:
For your security, use bitaddress offline.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 25, 2020, 04:20:58 AM

Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:15:26 AM

Thank you for your active help, i will not disclose more words, and i dint gave them in correct order anyway.
Blockchain info do not recognize word interruptions :/
"Unknown word interruptions"
Could it be from other wallets?
The very first wallets that i used was ex Bitpay, in those days it was Copay.
But when trying to import to Bitpay it says wrong seed lenght ://

blockchain.com is the only cryptocurrency related project that i could find which had all the words you listed here and in a project that was indeed related to wallet creation.
have you tried contacting their support?

No, i havent tried to contact their support yet.
This is what should i do, right?
If yes, i will contact them. But i doubt they will reply me fast or they will reply me at all.
Lets try.
Meanwhile anyone else know what wallet creation services used such a words?

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Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 04:15:26 AM

Thank you for your active help, i will not disclose more words, and i dint gave them in correct order anyway.
Blockchain info do not recognize word interruptions :/
"Unknown word interruptions"
Could it be from other wallets?
The very first wallets that i used was ex Bitpay, in those days it was Copay.
But when trying to import to Bitpay it says wrong seed lenght ://

blockchain.com is the only cryptocurrency related project that i could find which had all the words you listed here and in a project that was indeed related to wallet creation.
have you tried contacting their support?

Xsai

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Thank you for your active help, i will not disclose more words, and i dint gave them in correct order anyway.
Blockchain info do not recognize word interruptions :/
"Unknown word interruptions"
Could it be from other wallets?
The very first wallets that i used was ex Bitpay, in those days it was Copay.
But when trying to import to Bitpay it says wrong seed lenght ://

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Quote from: BrewMaster on May 25, 2020, 04:03:19 AM

it is from blockchain.info

In this case, try here: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/recover-wallet.

Oh and, please stop giving out more words from your mnemonic code.
You already posted 7 out of 20 words.

This isn't enough to bruteforce it, but be careful. And don't reply to PM's asking for information.

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Quote from: Xsai on May 25, 2020, 03:57:10 AM

Interruptions
Puckish
Phut
Freethinker
Jessup

it is from blockchain.info (it is changed to .com now). their system is the only wallet that uses this type of terrible words that look the same (like interrupt, interrupted, interrupters,...) and is incompatible with any of the mnemonic systems.
you can see their word list and the words you posted here in this link:
https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/master/mnemonic_words_v3.html

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Quote from: bob123 on May 25, 2020, 03:54:01 AM

If it is a BIP39 mnemonic code, the number of words has to be divisible by 4. So this should mean its 20 words.
However, the word "interruptions" is not part of it.

Do you remember using your own wordlist (i.e. replacing the wordlist by another one yourself) ?
Do you remember which kind of wallet you were using ? Did you use a browser? Your mobile?
Anything you remember?

I have saved it as text file "bitcoin"
And i doubt this is my own words because i am not english speaker.
Some of the words are:
Interruptions
Puckish
Phut
Freethinker
Jessup

Never seen such a words in new seeds.
Wallet is from 2014 as i have saved it then.

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If it is a BIP39 mnemonic code, the number of words has to be divisible by 4 3.
However, the word "interruptions" is not part of it.

Do you remember using your own wordlist (i.e. replacing the wordlist by another one yourself) ?
Do you remember which kind of wallet you were using ? Did you use a browser? Your mobile?
Anything you remember?

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