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Prutser112

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Quote from: cr1776 on July 23, 2016, 03:36:41 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 02:23:59 PM

Is it normal that my Mac nearly overheats from downloading this Blockchain?
The fan is meanwhile blowing full speed and still I can nearly bake an egg on the alu housing...

It will get quite warm verifying all the blocks, yes.

Which Mac are you running, out of curiosity?

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013)
2.4 Ghz
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Model Identifier:   MacBookPro10,1
Processor Name:   Intel Core i7
Processor Speed:   2,4 GHz
Number of Processors:   1
Total Number of Cores:   4
L2 Cache (per Core):   256 KB
L3 Cache:   6 MB

cr1776

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 02:23:59 PM

Is it normal that my Mac nearly overheats from downloading this Blockchain?
The fan is meanwhile blowing full speed and still I can nearly bake an egg on the alu housing...

It will get quite warm verifying all the blocks, yes.

Which Mac are you running, out of curiosity?

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 02:23:59 PM

Is it normal that my Mac nearly overheats from downloading this Blockchain?
The fan is meanwhile blowing full speed and still I can nearly bake an egg on the alu housing...

Bitcoin Core is pretty hardware intensive, especially when it has to index the blocks (as with downloading or reindexing). I wouldn't say that this is normal per se, but it certainly is not uncommon nor unexpected.

Prutser112

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

That is correct. Because the "blocks" folder was missing, it needs to redownload the entire blockchain since that is stored in the "blocks" folder.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Yes, that is good.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:32:38 PM

This program Bitcoin Core is not for faint-hearted...

Of coarse I keep backups!

Now see how long it will take to pull in the whole Block chain.

Should I keep all debug files, etc that are still on Desktop?
After removing Bitstamp, it's files stayed also on my desktop... I don't know which ones belong to Bitcoin Core and/or to Bitstamp?

No, you don't have to. All of the files I told you to copy earlier can be deleted from the desktop.

Is it normal that my Mac nearly overheats from downloading this Blockchain?
The fan is meanwhile blowing full speed and still I can nearly bake an egg on the alu housing...

Prutser112

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Activity: 14

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 12:46:51 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

That is correct. Because the "blocks" folder was missing, it needs to redownload the entire blockchain since that is stored in the "blocks" folder.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Yes, that is good.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:32:38 PM

This program Bitcoin Core is not for faint-hearted...

Of coarse I keep backups!

Now see how long it will take to pull in the whole Block chain.

Should I keep all debug files, etc that are still on Desktop?
After removing Bitstamp, it's files stayed also on my desktop... I don't know which ones belong to Bitcoin Core and/or to Bitstamp?

No, you don't have to. All of the files I told you to copy earlier can be deleted from the desktop.

Thanks for the assistance so far.
I will inform when blockchain is in.

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

That is correct. Because the "blocks" folder was missing, it needs to redownload the entire blockchain since that is stored in the "blocks" folder.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Yes, that is good.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:32:38 PM

This program Bitcoin Core is not for faint-hearted...

Of coarse I keep backups!

Now see how long it will take to pull in the whole Block chain.

Should I keep all debug files, etc that are still on Desktop?
After removing Bitstamp, it's files stayed also on my desktop... I don't know which ones belong to Bitcoin Core and/or to Bitstamp?

No, you don't have to. All of the files I told you to copy earlier can be deleted from the desktop.

Prutser112

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Quote from: cr1776 on July 23, 2016, 12:21:17 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:53:52 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

That is a problem, but sure, continue anyways. Did you happen to delete anything between the time when this problem happened and now?

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Yes, it will be downloading the blocks. And that is good keeping it Application Support.

Btw, keep your backups.

This program Bitcoin Core is not for faint-hearted...

Of coarse I keep backups!

Now see how long it will take to pull in the whole Block chain.

Should I keep all debug files, etc that are still on Desktop?
After removing Bitstamp, it's files stayed also on my desktop... I don't know which ones belong to Bitcoin Core and/or to Bitstamp?

cr1776

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:03 PM

Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:53:52 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

That is a problem, but sure, continue anyways. Did you happen to delete anything between the time when this problem happened and now?

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Yes, it will be downloading the blocks. And that is good keeping it Application Support.

Btw, keep your backups.

Prutser112

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Activity: 14

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:53:52 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

That is a problem, but sure, continue anyways. Did you happen to delete anything between the time when this problem happened and now?

I started the program after following instructions.

Now the program started with "synchronizing with network"
That means it has to download again the whole amount of GB's of data like the prog done it before?

B.t.w. this time I got a question when starting Bitcoin Core, It asked if I wanted to store on Desktop or custom location, Application Support.
I have chosen Application Support.

Prutser112

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Activity: 14

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:53:52 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

That is a problem, but sure, continue anyways. Did you happen to delete anything between the time when this problem happened and now?

No, nothing was deleted.
I just checked even my waste bin, no Blocks file there.

I try without blocks file.

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

That is a problem, but sure, continue anyways. Did you happen to delete anything between the time when this problem happened and now?

Prutser112

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:27:44 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:17:00 AM

Hello Knightdk,

I send it to you by mail.

Got it.

So the data directory that Bitcoin Core is using (for some reason) is /Users/test/Desktop. This is where you should put your wallet.dat file. If you have multiple wallet.dat files, make sure that you use the one that has the older creation date as that should be the one with your Bitcoin.

I highly recommend that you copy the data directory files to the default directory. First, go to Settings > Options and then click Reset Options in Bitcoin Core. Then shut it down. Then copy the following folders and files from /Users/test/Desktop to /Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin:

Code:

blocks
chainstate
database
banlist.dat
bitcoin.conf
debug.log
db.log
peers.dat
wallet.dat

If some of those files don't exist, that is fine. The only files and folders that matter here are blocks and wallet.dat. If the Bitcoin folder doesn't exist, make it.

When you next start Bitcoin Core, it should be using the default data directory. To check if it is, open the debug.log file and look for the line with today's date and "Using data directory". The path listed should be the default one (/Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin)

Hello Knightdk,

There is nowhere the file 'blocks' on my desktop? continue anyway?

Prutser112

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:27:44 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:17:00 AM

Hello Knightdk,

I send it to you by mail.

Got it.

So the data directory that Bitcoin Core is using (for some reason) is /Users/test/Desktop. This is where you should put your wallet.dat file. If you have multiple wallet.dat files, make sure that you use the one that has the older creation date as that should be the one with your Bitcoin.

I highly recommend that you copy the data directory files to the default directory. First, go to Settings > Options and then click Reset Options in Bitcoin Core. Then shut it down. Then copy the following folders and files from /Users/test/Desktop to /Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin:

Code:

blocks
chainstate
database
banlist.dat
bitcoin.conf
debug.log
db.log
peers.dat
wallet.dat

If some of those files don't exist, that is fine. The only files and folders that matter here are blocks and wallet.dat. If the Bitcoin folder doesn't exist, make it.

When you next start Bitcoin Core, it should be using the default data directory. To check if it is, open the debug.log file and look for the line with today's date and "Using data directory". The path listed should be the default one (/Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin)

Thanks a lot, I am gonna give it a try.
Let you know if it works or if I fail.

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:17:00 AM

Hello Knightdk,

I send it to you by mail.

Got it.

So the data directory that Bitcoin Core is using (for some reason) is /Users/test/Desktop. This is where you should put your wallet.dat file. If you have multiple wallet.dat files, make sure that you use the one that has the older creation date as that should be the one with your Bitcoin.

I highly recommend that you copy the data directory files to the default directory. First, go to Settings > Options and then click Reset Options in Bitcoin Core. Then shut it down. Then copy the following folders and files from /Users/test/Desktop to /Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin:

Code:

blocks
chainstate
database
banlist.dat
bitcoin.conf
debug.log
db.log
peers.dat
wallet.dat

If some of those files don't exist, that is fine. The only files and folders that matter here are blocks and wallet.dat. If the Bitcoin folder doesn't exist, make it.

When you next start Bitcoin Core, it should be using the default data directory. To check if it is, open the debug.log file and look for the line with today's date and "Using data directory". The path listed should be the default one (/Users/test/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin)

Prutser112

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Quote from: achow101 on July 23, 2016, 11:07:39 AM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:02:50 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is also other folders on the desktop, Log files, debug.log, peers.dat.

That should confirm my suspicion that the data directory is your desktop. That is a problem though and I still need to see the log.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:02:50 AM

I tried to post the content of the debug log file, it contains more then 64.000 characters and can't be posted for that reason.
(limitation to the forum software.)
How can I send the log file?

Go to http://pastebin.com/. Paste it into the box, click "create a new paste" and then share the link of that paste.

Hello Knightdk,

I send it to you by mail.

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:02:50 AM

Hello Knightdk,

There is also other folders on the desktop, Log files, debug.log, peers.dat.

That should confirm my suspicion that the data directory is your desktop. That is a problem though and I still need to see the log.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 23, 2016, 11:02:50 AM

I tried to post the content of the debug log file, it contains more then 64.000 characters and can't be posted for that reason.
(limitation to the forum software.)
How can I send the log file?

Go to http://pastebin.com/. Paste it into the box, click "create a new paste" and then share the link of that paste.

Prutser112

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Quote from: achow101 on July 22, 2016, 08:32:49 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

which should be ~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin

Unfortunately there is no such folder in Application Support named Bitcoin.
Now what to do?

Well that is a problem. That is the default data directory for Bitcoin, and when it first runs, it should make the folder there. However, because Bitcoin Core did run, that means that the data is going elsewhere.

Since you mentioned that the wallet.dat file was on your desktop, do you also see any folders named "blocks" "database" or "chainstate" on the desktop? Any files named peers.dat, banlist.dat, or debug.log? It may be possible that the desktop somehow became Bitcoin Core's data directory.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

Concerning posting the log file data here, I don't know what private data it holds, so i don't wanna put it online.
What to me looks like abracadabra could hold vital info.

I guarantee you that the debug.log file contains absolutely no information that puts any of your Bitcoin at risk. It is intentionally designed to be shared with others in order to diagnose issues. The only "vital information" are the paths to the data directory and the wallet, which is what we are looking for right now. If you don't feel comfortable posting them publicly, feel free to PM me the file.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

No way I can reconnect the .dat wallet file back to the correct place on my mac?

The issue is that we cannot do so without knowing the data directory. Right now the only way (that I can think of) to find the data directory is to use the debug.log file.

Hello Knightdk,

There is also other folders on the desktop, Log files, debug.log, peers.dat.

I tried to post the content of the debug log file, it contains more then 64.000 characters and can't be posted for that reason.
(limitation to the forum software.)
How can I send the log file?

Shiroslullaby

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If you look at the forum, you can see knightdk helping a lot of people with technical issues.
I'm almost 100% sure he can be trusted.
The log file shouldn't show anything that would put your BTC at risk so I would definitely PM him the info if you need some additional help.

cr1776

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Quote from: achow101 on July 22, 2016, 08:32:49 PM

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

Concerning posting the log file data here, I don't know what private data it holds, so i don't wanna put it online.
What to me looks like abracadabra could hold vital info.

I guarantee you that the debug.log file contains absolutely no information that puts any of your Bitcoin at risk. It is intentionally designed to be shared with others in order to diagnose issues. The only "vital information" are the paths to the data directory and the wallet, which is what we are looking for right now. If you don't feel comfortable posting them publicly, feel free to PM me the file.

This is correct. The log file is innocuous. The private keys are the things you should never share with anyone and consequently you should never share the wallet.dat file with anyone.

achow101

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Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

which should be ~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin

Unfortunately there is no such folder in Application Support named Bitcoin.
Now what to do?

Well that is a problem. That is the default data directory for Bitcoin, and when it first runs, it should make the folder there. However, because Bitcoin Core did run, that means that the data is going elsewhere.

Since you mentioned that the wallet.dat file was on your desktop, do you also see any folders named "blocks" "database" or "chainstate" on the desktop? Any files named peers.dat, banlist.dat, or debug.log? It may be possible that the desktop somehow became Bitcoin Core's data directory.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

Concerning posting the log file data here, I don't know what private data it holds, so i don't wanna put it online.
What to me looks like abracadabra could hold vital info.

I guarantee you that the debug.log file contains absolutely no information that puts any of your Bitcoin at risk. It is intentionally designed to be shared with others in order to diagnose issues. The only "vital information" are the paths to the data directory and the wallet, which is what we are looking for right now. If you don't feel comfortable posting them publicly, feel free to PM me the file.

Quote from: Prutser112 on July 22, 2016, 06:59:51 PM

No way I can reconnect the .dat wallet file back to the correct place on my mac?

The issue is that we cannot do so without knowing the data directory. Right now the only way (that I can think of) to find the data directory is to use the debug.log file.

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