Topic: Want legit 7970 testing/benchmarking and tuning for cgminer and Diablominer? - page 5. (Read 19834 times)

no no no

not overclocking the "shit out of them"

Im talking clocks at 950/180 - with 440mhash  no big deal at all. the 5870 is a superior mining card to the 7000 series we have seen so far

the fact of the matter is AMD is NOT designing their cards with mining in mind and thats a fact we just have to accept.

a 7000 series mining farm will NEVER be profitable unless of course you get free electricity or some other bizarre circumstance

Only if you buy it used and overclock the shit out of it. He is talking about stock numbers here.

Even if he doesn't create a miracle driver, he could add a few handy lines of code that make it into the eventual best miner created by another author.  And the total cost of the hardware isn't too much for the community as a whole.

I'm not sure when "toms hardware" became an authority on bitcoin mining but the fact is a 5870 gets 440 mhash easily, consumes much less wattage than a 7970 and cost about $150

I just don't see the plausibility in anyone making any kind of major mining operation based on these cards , there's absolutely no profitability and if we use the direction AMD has taken with their drivers as any kind of indicator they are certainly not making an effort to purposely gear their cards towards mining.

Diablod3 is certainly a well known early adopter and programmer but personally I would much rather donate to a project like a miner that can squeeze more mash out of an fpga board

To me It's almost like investing in oil rigs when there are some kick ass electric cars out there.

Spot on.  However I believe Luke Jr has already put together some sort of cgminer based BFL software...

That is some premo 'first post out of noob jail'

You may be right about most people, but I do. But before I give it up I'd be looking to get a reasonable return on my "invested" capital. I also understand that my capital could "magically" disappear. That's the risk. Once the code is developed I don't want the card, it wouldn't do me any good. I'd like my capital and a fair return back so I can move on to the next investment. I don't have enough cash on hand to be an angel investor.

Why don't I want the card after the development is complete? It's because I don't have the hardware and cheap enough power to run a GPU mining rig with a high enough hash rate that can pay for itself in some reasonable amount of time given the current difficulty and payout. Given my base this does not benefit me directly. I'm too late to the Bitcoin mining scene to earn a reasonable return.

This work is going to benefit the community of miners who already have extensive, and hopefully profitable, GPU mining operations and who are looking to upgrade to improve their hash rate enough to offset the costs of buying the new GPU and the power consumption. In fact those are the people I'd be approaching first. Scope all the pools and see which miners have the highest hash rates and see if they are willing to fund you.

- Zed

Woohoo, my first post as a freed noob.

Rasengan added 10 btc to the effort. Thanks man.

Current total: 18.0101976.

Thats the thing; I doubt anyone is planning on buying a farm of 7970s for bitcoin mining. The card is just too expensive and its untapped performance potential almost certainly quite limited. So almost no one has an incentive to pay for a 7970 optimized miner.  Even more so as  Diablo seems no longer the miner app of choice.

Im pretty sure it will be easier to amass donations to, say, port cgminer to that butterfly labs fpga board. Anyone planning on buying those in any quantity may find that a worthwhile donation. If I where diablo, Id offer to do that.

Total is now: 8.0101976

Thanks a lot. Its the thought that matters.

Total is now: 7.0101976

Because that comparison was definitely apples to apples.

You buy me a Ferrari, I'll work some on making a miner for the car radio, that's for sure!

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LOL. Yeah. Thanks.

Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.

Since I'm out of n00b jail, I'll make my first free man post since my return to this place.
I cannot believe the attitude here.

It's absolutely disturbing.

There's going to be god damn flying 12 monkeys up in the streets in 12 months with food riots and you people are bitching about helping out someone whose work benefits everybody?
Don't give me that investor bullshit. Lead a path to his door? Where do you see these magic droves of customers coming from? If you haven't been paying attention 9/11, the bank failouts, the Breivik shit, and the prospect of either a war banger or a nasty war banger as president, these tragedies of the past, present, and future have sucked the optimism out of most people. We are all mostly burnt out and could use a little spontaneous vitality.

Holy fucking shit.

Just for that I'm donating the .00017760 someone sent me once to DiabloD3. Sorry man, I hardly have any, but I thought I'd pay you the same compliment someone once paid me under my previous account (I no longer have access to that email) a long time ago.

Also, for anyone here still fantasizing about the economy and telling people to get jobs: Are you hiring? If not stop projecting your forced optimism from your own insecurity on someone else.

Also, cocks.

I don't get what the huge outrage is about.
Author of FOSS miner offers to work on improved 7970 kernel if he gets enough donations towards buying a 7970.
That's pretty much the same way you get your personal pet hardware supported by FOSS firmware. Guess next you'll be boycotting dd-wrt and the likes.

The people are outraged that someone would want a free 7970, but early testing and tuning the Diablominer to it would earn the community a ton of bitcoin in the future if he could make a 7xxx purr like a 5xxx.  I think it's unlikely but he's right, y'know.  Pay the man, he'll pay you later when you buy twenty 7970s from the store for yourself (you greedy little bastards).

Well you obviously got this figured out which is why you were well compensated for your prior work and almost at your donation goal.  I will stop talking about things which don't make sense. 

Because that makes no sense. I believe I personally have invested a lot of time and energy into Bitcoin, and people serve to make a lot of money if GCN turns out to be the next ultimate mining arch after 5xxx+SDK 2.1. There are people out there who make 150btc a day and use DiabloMiner, yet I have not heard a peep from them.

I don't get why I am getting so much resistance on this. People have requested optimized GCN support, and I obviously cannot provide this without having a GCN myself, nor can I afford one out of pocket. If people want this support, they will donate towards it. For them, this IS an investment.