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Quote from: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 10:01:21 AM

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In my opinion, the united kingdom will never trade with Britain for fishing because not everyone within the UK may be a fisherman. They affect different companies before trading. If the upper countries import it then they will attempt to trade. Also, before the export of fish to the EU in Britain, everyone works as a fisherman.

britain will be like an african country, unable to maintain an industrial fishing fleet they will sell their fishing rights to the japanese, or the chinese. instead of sharing the european seas with their neigbours.

Yeah of these developed countries will never support fishing and it's difficult to seek out fishermen in their country. they need never been ready to trade with the fisherman within the current country Britain and China will attempt to stand back from them.

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Quote from: Febo on March 03, 2020, 11:07:53 AM

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Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own. We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time!

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

Then I am right. EU is not bankrupt as OP claimed.

About different European countries you are right. Some of them will have serious problems after this economic crysis. But so will have a lot countries allower the world. That is how economy evolved in last century. A economy of debt. Not just on country level but everywhere.

Here you have European countries debts. All with less then 50% should be fine. All over 90% will have serious problems. And standard in those countries will decrease a lot. https://www.statista.com/statistics/269684/national-debt-in-eu-countries-in-relation-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp/

well greece will get its situation fixed, with the eu border billions

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Quote from: KingScorpio on March 02, 2020, 11:31:56 PM

Quote from: Febo on March 02, 2020, 12:39:21 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 05:07:20 AM

Quote from: Febo on February 29, 2020, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: Kuffy on February 24, 2020, 05:28:36 AM

Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own. We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time!

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

Then I am right. EU is not bankrupt as OP claimed.

About different European countries you are right. Some of them will have serious problems after this economic crysis. But so will have a lot countries allower the world. That is how economy evolved in last century. A economy of debt. Not just on country level but everywhere.

Here you have European countries debts. All with less then 50% should be fine. All over 90% will have serious problems. And standard in those countries will decrease a lot. https://www.statista.com/statistics/269684/national-debt-in-eu-countries-in-relation-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp/

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Quote from: Febo on March 02, 2020, 12:39:21 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 05:07:20 AM

Quote from: Febo on February 29, 2020, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: Kuffy on February 24, 2020, 05:28:36 AM

Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own. We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time!

you are wrong, the members are bankrupt not the EU.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 05:07:20 AM

Quote from: Febo on February 29, 2020, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: Kuffy on February 24, 2020, 05:28:36 AM

Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

Yes. EU have money to use every year. What members of EU contribute. But OP claims that EU will bankrupt. You cant bankrupt if you have no loans to pay off. EU have no loans. EU can never bankrupt. It can cease to exist when its members will see no reason for it to exist. So far everyday are more reasons to exist. You mention Turkey, you mention middle east, you mention Russia. You forgot to mention China and USA. Lets not forget Africa.

Most of countries in EU on their own are nothing. Few countries in EU on their own are something, but nothing compared to what EU is. Countries just need to cooperate in almost everything. Together do space program. Together develop weapons. There is no need that France makes own tank or submarine or fighter jet and Germany builds own and Spain builds own. We will all build one together.

EU is here to stay for a very long time!

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In my opinion, the united kingdom will never trade with Britain for fishing because not everyone within the UK may be a fisherman. They affect different companies before trading. If the upper countries import it then they will attempt to trade. Also, before the export of fish to the EU in Britain, everyone works as a fisherman.

britain will be like an african country, unable to maintain an industrial fishing fleet they will sell their fishing rights to the japanese, or the chinese. instead of sharing the european seas with their neigbours.

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Quote from: Febo on February 29, 2020, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: Kuffy on February 24, 2020, 05:28:36 AM

Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

EU has money, but the problem is, is that it is being blackmailed, by its savage neighbors, erdogan wants money putin wants money assad wants money from the EU, although the EU had nothing to do with syrian civil war.

world is full of savages, and those that have money (EU) are getting blackmailed all the time.

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Quote from: Kuffy on February 24, 2020, 05:28:36 AM

Why is the EU bankrupt

EU is not bankrupt. It actually have no debt at all. EU simply divide what they collect from its members. They dont borrow or lend or whatever.

Countries in the EU have debt and most possibly some of them after this recession will be on brink of bankruptcy. But overall on average are way from other high in dept countries.

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There is a 12-mile legal limit around all major countries, where the waters are considered part of their country.

There is a 200-mile economic limit around all countries where they can enforce fishing and other economic activities.

Probably the seasteading problems Elwar faced in Thailand had to do with the 200-mile economic limit. Without getting into Thai legal understandings, we won't know if Elwar's thing was considered an economic thing by Thailand, even though it was outside the legal limits of the waters that are considered an actual part of Thailand.

If you want to be safe from a country in international waters, you need to go beyond the 200-mile limit, but if only beyond the 12-mile limit, absolutely do nothing that can be considered business regarding the waters.

Note that the miles are nautical miles, which are slightly different from standard miles.

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Wow, so much misinformation. International regulations state that the waters surrounding countries, are part of those countries, and the country has sole fishing rights within those waters. One of the hiidden sources of revenue for the EU is the fish that was taken fron British waters by the French, and other EU slave states. If the French don't want to buy our fish, then they can do without, but they won't be able to steal them, and if they try, then they can expect a revival of the cod wars.

Why is the EU bankrupt, well ignoring the fact that is is not European - two of the largest economies ( Russia and the UK) are not part of it, and it is not united, as there is so much unrest and rebellion amongst the member states. It is also riddled with debt, and shows no intention to reduce its profligate practices.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 23, 2020, 03:51:43 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 15, 2020, 03:42:11 PM

the problem with destruction is that it depends how you interpret it, there are people who think a fisher is a destroyer. as he takes fish from a fishstocks and removes biomass out of an ecosphere.

If the fish are ocean fish, stocks wil be replenished naturally. If they are hatchery fish, the hatchery feeds the fish. No destruction.

Even if the ocean fish are fished out of existence, they really aren't. There are tiny pockets of them that will grow back. But it might take decades.

Ocean fishing laws simply keep certain fish available so that they can be fed to people at greater cost. It makes more money for the commercial fishermen.

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jeah partially correct

ocean fishing cartels and regulations are about maintaining fishing stocks, they exclude others from also doing industrial fishing, they end up being excluding foreigners

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 15, 2020, 03:42:11 PM

the problem with destruction is that it depends how you interpret it, there are people who think a fisher is a destroyer. as he takes fish from a fishstocks and removes biomass out of an ecosphere.

If the fish are ocean fish, stocks wil be replenished naturally. If they are hatchery fish, the hatchery feeds the fish. No destruction.

Even if the ocean fish are fished out of existence, they really aren't. There are tiny pockets of them that will grow back. But it might take decades.

Ocean fishing laws simply keep certain fish available so that they can be fed to people at greater cost. It makes more money for the commercial fishermen.

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Quote from: bugsbuds on February 11, 2020, 01:18:04 AM

I dont think is so easy now as the Brexit already applied and many companies already have their contract with others, but you can try and see what happen.

You are right because after an effect a corporation repeatedly it's impossible to cancel during this case, there'll be no profit but there are different jobs with us in fishing but the treaty is terminated in Britain because fishermen don't want to import fish.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 15, 2020, 01:34:51 PM

people can't do whatever they want, god has natural regulators, either through economic and evironmental disaster or by beast, there where once rumers of kraken killing sailors and fishers those are true

Does that mean we have to wait until those natural regulators get triggered? Let's drop the legends and focus on real effects of careless human behavior.
If you fish or hunt too much it will destroy the species in that certain region and you'll have no more next year, but what if the damage becomes permanent? We have to do what we can to prevent it from happening which means we need regulation.

I live near a forest and see what people can do. They throw away garbage, leave broken bottles, come at night to cut trees because they have a fireplace but don't want to buy wood, about once a year somebody brings an unwanted dog here. One time some idiot brought his dog and tied it to a tree...

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Quote from: coolcoinz on February 15, 2020, 12:47:29 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2020, 12:11:26 PM

well if you are hunting down fishermen from EU countries because they fish in uk waters, you are then a nazi, you are a socialist benefitting a small english based fishing cartel, and racially disadvantage european fishermen.

The EU creates winners and losers, germany btw. has to carry the biggest logistic loads regarding road maintenance.

EU is something great a bigger market bigger economy, while nation states are backward and racist trash.

I'm not a supporter of the Eu, but I could play the devil's advocate and ask if you really believe that everything should be free and unregulated.
Currently, you need licenses for fishing, even with your little fishing rod in a nearby lake. You need a license to sail, to shape the riverbanks and so on.
What if you could do whatever you wanted without any rules? People would be fishing by electrocuting fish with car batteries, throwing fireworks, sail speedboats wherever they please disrupting wildlife.

EU regulations are usually stupid but I see the need for at least some licensing.

brits are so stupid future fish production is either in vitro, or through aqua culture, wild fish are for sport fishermen, adventerers, or rouge industrial fishing companies from japan and iceland.

with their behavior they are destroying their image in europe and then get bad treatment in other things like in science cooperation and access.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 15, 2020, 02:21:58 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 14, 2020, 04:01:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 13, 2020, 05:12:41 PM

But hunting down fishermen might be fun if the forests are empty of game from hunting. Sad

I wonder if fishermen would need a net to fish for hunters. Cheesy

fishing is allowed, by god, but god also limited the human engineering skill (islam) we are not allowed in gods world to do industrial fishing, but since we still did that god forced us to balance ourself with nature using states/regional cooperation and fishing cartels.

muslims think satan is something to be destroyed but in truth satan is an agent of god to keep balance

God does what people ask. When you move your hand, what you are really doing is asking God that your hand be moved as you wish it to. God willingly does it for you, and you think that you did it.

Satan is called Abaddon and Apollyon (Destroyer) in Revelation... Revelation 9:11:

Quote from: https://biblehub.com/revelation/9-11.htm

They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

Satan's one creation, destruction, is being used on him by God better than he thought to use it himself.

In a no-sin world, there would be balance in everything that people did. In this sinful world, God does the balancing for purposes of destroying destruction.

Are you a man/woman? Psalm 115:16:

Quote from: https://biblehub.com/psalms/115-16.htm

The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.

So, it is mankind that controls the fishing. But get yourself an understanding of Queen's Bench in Britain, so that you know that only if you hurt another of mankind can you be convicted of a crime. If in Britain you are found guilty by a barrister and magistrate, you have agreed with your own conviction.

So, the fishing laws of Britain don't apply to you as a man, but only to your corporation.

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the problem with destruction is that it depends how you interpret it, there are people who think a fisher is a destroyer. as he takes fish from a fishstocks and removes biomass out of an ecosphere.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 14, 2020, 04:01:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 13, 2020, 05:12:41 PM

But hunting down fishermen might be fun if the forests are empty of game from hunting. Sad

I wonder if fishermen would need a net to fish for hunters. Cheesy

fishing is allowed, by god, but god also limited the human engineering skill (islam) we are not allowed in gods world to do industrial fishing, but since we still did that god forced us to balance ourself with nature using states/regional cooperation and fishing cartels.

muslims think satan is something to be destroyed but in truth satan is an agent of god to keep balance

God does what people ask. When you move your hand, what you are really doing is asking God that your hand be moved as you wish it to. God willingly does it for you, and you think that you did it.

Satan is called Abaddon and Apollyon (Destroyer) in Revelation... Revelation 9:11:

Quote from: https://biblehub.com/revelation/9-11.htm

They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).

Satan's one creation, destruction, is being used on him by God better than he thought to use it himself.

In a no-sin world, there would be balance in everything that people did. In this sinful world, God does the balancing for purposes of destroying destruction.

Are you a man/woman? Psalm 115:16:

Quote from: https://biblehub.com/psalms/115-16.htm

The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind.

So, it is mankind that controls the fishing. But get yourself an understanding of Queen's Bench in Britain, so that you know that only if you hurt another of mankind can you be convicted of a crime. If in Britain you are found guilty by a barrister and magistrate, you have agreed with your own conviction.

So, the fishing laws of Britain don't apply to you as a man, but only to your corporation.

Cool

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Quote from: coolcoinz on February 15, 2020, 12:47:29 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2020, 12:11:26 PM

well if you are hunting down fishermen from EU countries because they fish in uk waters, you are then a nazi, you are a socialist benefitting a small english based fishing cartel, and racially disadvantage european fishermen.

The EU creates winners and losers, germany btw. has to carry the biggest logistic loads regarding road maintenance.

EU is something great a bigger market bigger economy, while nation states are backward and racist trash.

I'm not a supporter of the Eu, but I could play the devil's advocate and ask if you really believe that everything should be free and unregulated.
Currently, you need licenses for fishing, even with your little fishing rod in a nearby lake. You need a license to sail, to shape the riverbanks and so on.
What if you could do whatever you wanted without any rules? People would be fishing by electrocuting fish with car batteries, throwing fireworks, sail speedboats wherever they please disrupting wildlife.

EU regulations are usually stupid but I see the need for at least some licensing.

people can't do whatever they want, god has natural regulators, either through economic and evironmental disaster or by beast, there where once rumers of kraken killing sailors and fishers those are true

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Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2020, 12:11:26 PM

well if you are hunting down fishermen from EU countries because they fish in uk waters, you are then a nazi, you are a socialist benefitting a small english based fishing cartel, and racially disadvantage european fishermen.

The EU creates winners and losers, germany btw. has to carry the biggest logistic loads regarding road maintenance.

EU is something great a bigger market bigger economy, while nation states are backward and racist trash.

I'm not a supporter of the Eu, but I could play the devil's advocate and ask if you really believe that everything should be free and unregulated.
Currently, you need licenses for fishing, even with your little fishing rod in a nearby lake. You need a license to sail, to shape the riverbanks and so on.
What if you could do whatever you wanted without any rules? People would be fishing by electrocuting fish with car batteries, throwing fireworks, sail speedboats wherever they please disrupting wildlife.

EU regulations are usually stupid but I see the need for at least some licensing.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 13, 2020, 05:12:41 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on February 13, 2020, 12:11:26 PM

Quote from: coolcoinz on February 09, 2020, 01:29:17 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 09, 2020, 10:39:42 AM

Besides, where are "your" waters? Why do you use British licensing to have something to do with "your" waters?

British waters are public. Your waters are yours. Public means that everybody in Britain can use them. Why is it that government needs to get paid (licensing) for people using what belongs to them?

Cool

For the same reason why forests that are public also are not public.
You can walk into a public forest and, gather herbs and mushrooms, but you need a license to hunt and cut trees. What is available to the public is in reality very limited. In most countries you need a license to fish in lakes and rivers, to sail, to put a water wheel in and make your own electricity. Public means you can go there and watch, that's it Cheesy

well if you are hunting down fishermen from EU countries because they fish in uk waters, you are then a nazi, you are a socialist benefitting a small english based fishing cartel, and racially disadvantage european fishermen.

The EU creates winners and losers, germany btw. has to carry the biggest logistic loads regarding road maintenance.

EU is something great a bigger market bigger economy, while nation states are backward and racist trash.

But hunting down fishermen might be fun if the forests are empty of game from hunting. Sad

I wonder if fishermen would need a net to fish for hunters. Cheesy

fishing is allowed, by god, but god also limited the human engineering skill (islam) we are not allowed in gods world to do industrial fishing, but since we still did that god forced us to balance ourself with nature using states/regional cooperation and fishing cartels.

muslims think satan is something to be destroyed but in truth satan is an agent of god to keep balance

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