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legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
May 15, 2013, 12:07:22 AM
#28
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"


Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

Not to mention the potential for unregulated pornography.


Not the "P" word! That word burns my eyes like acid. Wait here a minute while I go get my giant wooden cross and some gasoline. LOL
hero member
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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
May 15, 2013, 12:03:50 AM
#27
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"


Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 

Not to mention the potential for unregulated pornography.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
May 14, 2013, 11:59:59 PM
#26
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"


Right but, unfortunately, that does nothing to help satoshiDICE. The new Nevada legal on-line gambling is heavily regulated with checks to verify the age and residency of the gambler. satoshiDICE is operating in a way that allows minors to gamble. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of the gamblers on satoshiDICE are under 21. To the fucked up moral majority in 'merica you may as well be handing a kid a beer. 
hero member
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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
May 14, 2013, 11:45:52 PM
#25
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/

Only for nevada residents though, so interstate commerce tax laws don't apply.

See -> http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/05/is-online-poker-legal-again.html

Specifically the part about "Interstate Commerce Clause"
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
May 14, 2013, 11:38:36 PM
#24
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.

I don't think so. There is only one place where you can legally gamble on-line in the USA right now: http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/30/first-legal-online-gambling-site-launches-in-the-u-s-but-only-for-nevada-residents-for-now/
hero member
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Ching-Chang;Ding-Dong
May 14, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
#23
I don't think the gambling aspect of satoshi dice is nearly as important to them as the 'tumbling' effect of it allowing bitcoin users to disassociate themselves from the bitcoins they hold.
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May 14, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
#22
Interesting tweet.
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Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Agree! GTA 2, 3, 4 and 5 wouldn't exist if it weren't for people trying to ban the first one. Maybe we should run a campaign to get bitcoin banned with the ultimately failing off course.
legendary
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May 14, 2013, 11:27:01 PM
#21
Before you all get your panties in a bunch, this might actually be something like an attempt to crack down on online gambling and not a direct assault on bitcoin - even though the outcome is the same..

Speaking of which:

evoorhees: How do you deal with being an American running a gambling site(satoshiDICE)?

Yeah right? I can't believe I didn't put that together before. satoshiDICE is clearly illegal and what Herodes said could be true. They might not be going after Bitcoin but the illegal gambling funds that are moving through MtGox!
hero member
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May 14, 2013, 11:25:02 PM
#20
Interesting tweet.
Quote
Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Taleb is my fav mega-genius

Nah, he discovered the black swan, but Satoshi made one.

+1
+1
member
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May 14, 2013, 11:09:08 PM
#19
If the US government wanted to attack Bitcoin, it'd be doing a lot more than freezing a single Dwolla account.  Some drug dealer probably used Dwolla to send money or some other such nonsense, so they froze the MtGox account to make sure it wouldn't go anywhere.
legendary
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amarha
May 14, 2013, 11:03:14 PM
#18
Before you all get your panties in a bunch, this might actually be something like an attempt to crack down on online gambling and not a direct assault on bitcoin - even though the outcome is the same..

Speaking of which:

evoorhees: How do you deal with being an American running a gambling site(satoshiDICE)?
hero member
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May 14, 2013, 10:11:59 PM
#17
Before you all get your panties in a bunch, this might actually be something like an attempt to crack down on online gambling and not a direct assault on bitcoin - even though the outcome is the same..
legendary
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Democracy is the original 51% attack
May 14, 2013, 10:10:25 PM
#16
Interesting tweet.
Quote
Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Taleb is my fav mega-genius

Nah, he discovered the black swan, but Satoshi made one.

+1
full member
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FRX: Ferocious Alpha
May 14, 2013, 08:18:16 PM
#15
Anyone else enjoying this recent news related panic sell off?  I know I am!
hero member
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May 14, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
#14
Interesting tweet.
Quote
Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Taleb is my fav mega-genius

Nah, he discovered the black swan, but Satoshi made one.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
May 14, 2013, 08:05:10 PM
#13
Interesting tweet.
Quote
Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.

Taleb is my fav mega-genius
hero member
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Merit: 500
May 14, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
#12
Interesting tweet.
Quote
Nassim N. Taleb @nntaleb18m
For bitcoin to make it it needs to be banned by a few governments and critiqued by policy makers. Otherwise it will fade. #Antifragile.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
May 14, 2013, 08:01:51 PM
#11
IRS targets Tea Party members....
Associated Press has its journalist's phone records seized...

This is not just a war on Bitcoin it is a war on freedom and liberty.

And one of these days everyone has to decide which side they are on.

Math wins anyday.  Cool
sr. member
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Merit: 250
May 14, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
#10
IRS targets Tea Party members....
Associated Press has its journalist's phone records seized...

This is not just a war on Bitcoin it is a war on freedom and liberty.

And one of these days everyone has to decide which side they are on.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
May 14, 2013, 07:17:01 PM
#9
IRS targets Tea Party members....
Associated Press has its journalist's phone records seized...

This is not just a war on Bitcoin it is a war on freedom and liberty.
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