War with North Korea postponed. - page 3.

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Quote from: philggg on April 22, 2017, 12:38:58 PM

I believe this is one of the right steps taken by America to restor peace in the north

If they want peace to prevail in the Korean peninsula, then the Americans should stop provoking the North Koreans. American provocations are responsible for most of the bad blood between North and South Koreas. Let South Korea deal with the DPRK. I am sure that they will be able to convince Kim Jong Un much better than the Americans.

What do you Americans supposed to do? To sit and wait in silence while the regime of Kim Jong-UN will create missiles capable of reaching us territory? Why? Easier to strangle the evil while it is still in the Bud.

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no war. We do not want war in our beautiful world. There must be peace in that region.

North Korea should not stubborn it and fix bilateral relations with all countries.Of course the biggest risk here is the Chinese state. The world economy is on its way to possessing the majority.

China is a great risk for America. america need to follow china closely. Cool

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Quote from: philggg on April 22, 2017, 12:38:58 PM

I believe this is one of the right steps taken by America to restor peace in the north

If they want peace to prevail in the Korean peninsula, then the Americans should stop provoking the North Koreans. American provocations are responsible for most of the bad blood between North and South Koreas. Let South Korea deal with the DPRK. I am sure that they will be able to convince Kim Jong Un much better than the Americans.

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Quote from: philggg on April 22, 2017, 12:38:58 PM

I believe this is one of the right steps taken by America to restor peace in the north

As a very intelligent person said, that if you want peace, then you need to
go to war, which is almost the case now. I'm not a huge fan of Trump's
actions, but I think that here he is doing the right thing.

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I believe this is one of the right steps taken by America to restor peace in the north

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 22, 2017, 10:17:26 AM

Quote from: sikke on April 22, 2017, 10:05:22 AM

I cannot really grasp why would Trump want to postpone the conflict between USA and North Korea.
He made that bombing in Syria and Afghanistan to make China allow that happen and to show that he is not afraid of bombing the independent country, he was just tired of North Korea hiding behind the China.

But now the decision he made is to not do this right now? I cannot understand what is he exactly doing, but I assume that nobody can except God and himself.
I can only believe that he really wants to see US fighting against the North Korea, they are getting themselves armed to stand against the whole world, when we cannot do anything about it because of the China.

The world cannot be afraid of such a small country as a North Korea, just because their leader is insane, and he is willing to start the nuclear war!

I don't think that you understand real issue here.
Seoul, capital of South Korea, with 10 million inhabitants, is just a half hour drive from the border with north Korea.
If America attack North Korea, in a few hours Seoul will be in ruins, and millions of people dead or wounded.
Even Trump understand this brutal reality and because of it he had no choice but to talk with China.
The only way to solve this crisis Is completely isolated North Korea, and speed up the collapse of the regime, what is inevitable.
There are no quick and easy solutions here.

I agree. And South Korea is a valuable ally. Also you have to consider that most people in north korea are actually civilians who are also victims of the kim regime even before. There are innocent people that would suffer extensively if we get a bit too rash. Too many things to consider but one thing is for sure, sooner or later kim will be dealt with and hopefully it won't go to a point where in war with other countries would have to be done

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People tend to forget that it is very unlikely (not to say impossible) for any major war these days. The warfare technology and economic relations between countries do not allow it. War is bad for business, although I guess it would be good for crypto

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Quote from: sikke on April 22, 2017, 10:05:22 AM

I cannot really grasp why would Trump want to postpone the conflict between USA and North Korea.
He made that bombing in Syria and Afghanistan to make China allow that happen and to show that he is not afraid of bombing the independent country, he was just tired of North Korea hiding behind the China.

But now the decision he made is to not do this right now? I cannot understand what is he exactly doing, but I assume that nobody can except God and himself.
I can only believe that he really wants to see US fighting against the North Korea, they are getting themselves armed to stand against the whole world, when we cannot do anything about it because of the China.

The world cannot be afraid of such a small country as a North Korea, just because their leader is insane, and he is willing to start the nuclear war!

I don't think that you understand real issue here.
Seoul, capital of South Korea, with 10 million inhabitants, is just a half hour drive from the border with north Korea.
If America attack North Korea, in a few hours Seoul will be in ruins, and millions of people dead or wounded.
Even Trump understand this brutal reality and because of it he had no choice but to talk with China.
The only way to solve this crisis Is completely isolated North Korea, and speed up the collapse of the regime, what is inevitable.
There are no quick and easy solutions here.

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I cannot really grasp why would Trump want to postpone the conflict between USA and North Korea.
He made that bombing in Syria and Afghanistan to make China allow that happen and to show that he is not afraid of bombing the independent country, he was just tired of North Korea hiding behind the China.

But now the decision he made is to not do this right now? I cannot understand what is he exactly doing, but I assume that nobody can except God and himself.
I can only believe that he really wants to see US fighting against the North Korea, they are getting themselves armed to stand against the whole world, when we cannot do anything about it because of the China.

The world cannot be afraid of such a small country as a North Korea, just because their leader is insane, and he is willing to start the nuclear war!

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Quote from: TryAngle on April 21, 2017, 02:57:18 PM

Russia is reportedly mobilizing at the North Korean border. Which side are they on? Are they just there to keep North Korean refugees from fleeing into Russia if a war breaks out?

Russia needs slave labor and Putin will welcome these refugees. Already more than 50,000 North Koreans are working in various forestry and agricultural enterprises in Russia. The Russian government has requested the DPRK to send more slaves to Russia.

Once again convinced that Russian fascists. They dream of slaves. The exploitation of the Russian people gives the opportunity to forget that they themselves are the servants of the oligarchs in his country. Russians always justify myself with the fact that you live somewhere even worse.

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No matter how long they postponed should be not too long away from world war 3

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 01:11:05 PM

A war will be of no benefit to anyone. For the North Koreans, it will result in complete genocide and economic collapse. For the Americans, it will wreck their economy and increase the federal debt beyond sustainable limits. Remember that the Iraqi invasion has cost the American treasury more than $2 trillion till now. An invasion of the DPRK will be even more expensive.

Yes,north korean invasion would cost more for US as it happened during Iraq and Afghanistan invasion.They would just avoid such situations as they know very well that North korea has nuclear weapons.

If the Iraq invasion actually cost $2 trillion to the American tax payer, then my guess is that an invasion of North Korea will be at least twice as expensive. That comes to around $4 to $5 trillion. The Iran invasion might also have a similar price-tag. Americans should think hard about it. At least in Iraq, there were petroleum and natural gas deposits which could be looted. But the DPRK is having no such natural resources.

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Quote from: TryAngle on April 21, 2017, 02:57:18 PM

Russia is reportedly mobilizing at the North Korean border. Which side are they on? Are they just there to keep North Korean refugees from fleeing into Russia if a war breaks out?

Russia needs slave labor and Putin will welcome these refugees. Already more than 50,000 North Koreans are working in various forestry and agricultural enterprises in Russia. The Russian government has requested the DPRK to send more slaves to Russia.

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Quote from: af_newbie on April 21, 2017, 10:24:41 AM

Quote from: Forester618 on April 20, 2017, 11:30:11 AM

The United States administration is considering adding North Korea to list of state sponsors of terrorism in order to persuade Pyongyang to peaceful behavior.
This was stated by state Secretary Rex Tillerson. "We are reviewing the status of North Korea, both from the point of view of the state sponsor of terrorism, and other ways that we can use to put pressure on the regime in Pyongyang to get them to restore the interaction with us," said Tillerson. While at the State Department said that the restoration of cooperation of the DPRK with the US include "another Foundation than the negotiations that were conducted in the past."

North Korea and terrorism? That is news to me.

If sponsoring terrorism were a sport, Saudi Arabia would win a gold medal at every Olympics. Why is the US not bombing Saudi Arabia?

Sunny Muslims are actually infidels, they follow the same person who killed the daughter of their prophet, they're not actually Muslims just like Christians believe God has a son, none of them actually following what their prophets suggested.
NK, Russia, China say there is no God at all.
Israel has Saudi Arabia in their pockets.
US benefits from the oil and money which Arabs donate for some old weapons, jet fighters and such it keeps them happy and busy while Israel and Iran are in conflict and Arabs hate Iran because they're Shia.
It is a very complicated situation, and no one ever mentions England, it's all their fault and they are the hands behind the scene controlling the puppets and anyone refusing to be a puppet goes into their list and they will attempt to make them to submit to their will.

This is all however for more money and power, if NK secretly helps Iran to build nuclear bombs then Israel will be in danger and overall they don't want anyone with nuclear capability to become a bully since bullies don't like to be bullied.

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Quote from: ValeryBark on April 21, 2017, 04:58:47 AM

Quote from: Tyrantt on April 21, 2017, 03:21:45 AM

Didn't america deploy a "Armada" towards North Korea? There might not be a full on war between North Korea and US, but there might be some conflicts, as we know that North Korea is rash about some decisions. Also, didn't China deploy around 150.000 soldiers to the boarder with NK?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4428384/Putin-sends-troops-Russia-s-border-North-Korea.html#v-2271279847232587566 video
Vladimir Putin is sending troops and equipment to Russia's border with North Korea over fears the US is preparing to attack Kim Jong-un.
The Russian President fears there will be a huge exodus of North Korean refugees if his American counterpart, Donald Trump, launches military action against Pyongyang.
It comes days after it emerged that China is also sending 150,000 soldiers to its southern frontier to cope with the tidal wave of North Koreans Beijing fears would flee across the border if war breaks out.
This morning, footage emerged appearing to show how Putin is reinforcing his 11-mile border with North Korea by relocating troops and equipment.

It does not require war with the USA for there to be a sudden and massive surge of refugees from NK in the direction of China or Russia. Many other things could cause such a migration. For example the threat of war alone could do it.

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Quote from: TryAngle on April 21, 2017, 02:57:18 PM

Russia is reportedly mobilizing at the North Korean border. Which side are they on? Are they just there to keep North Korean refugees from fleeing into Russia if a war breaks out?

Most likely, Putin keeps troops there to deter refugees. What's his interest in Korea. Especially now that the Americans are fighting from long range and destroy any troops which will be at the site of the fire. The first Korean war could never happen again.

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Russia is reportedly mobilizing at the North Korean border. Which side are they on? Are they just there to keep North Korean refugees from fleeing into Russia if a war breaks out?

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Quote from: Forester618 on April 20, 2017, 11:30:11 AM

The United States administration is considering adding North Korea to list of state sponsors of terrorism in order to persuade Pyongyang to peaceful behavior.
This was stated by state Secretary Rex Tillerson. "We are reviewing the status of North Korea, both from the point of view of the state sponsor of terrorism, and other ways that we can use to put pressure on the regime in Pyongyang to get them to restore the interaction with us," said Tillerson. While at the State Department said that the restoration of cooperation of the DPRK with the US include "another Foundation than the negotiations that were conducted in the past."

North Korea and terrorism? That is news to me.

If sponsoring terrorism were a sport, Saudi Arabia would win a gold medal at every Olympics. Why is the US not bombing Saudi Arabia?

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Quote from: Tyrantt on April 21, 2017, 03:21:45 AM

Didn't america deploy a "Armada" towards North Korea? There might not be a full on war between North Korea and US, but there might be some conflicts, as we know that North Korea is rash about some decisions. Also, didn't China deploy around 150.000 soldiers to the boarder with NK?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4428384/Putin-sends-troops-Russia-s-border-North-Korea.html#v-2271279847232587566 video
Vladimir Putin is sending troops and equipment to Russia's border with North Korea over fears the US is preparing to attack Kim Jong-un.
The Russian President fears there will be a huge exodus of North Korean refugees if his American counterpart, Donald Trump, launches military action against Pyongyang.
It comes days after it emerged that China is also sending 150,000 soldiers to its southern frontier to cope with the tidal wave of North Koreans Beijing fears would flee across the border if war breaks out.
This morning, footage emerged appearing to show how Putin is reinforcing his 11-mile border with North Korea by relocating troops and equipment.

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Didn't america deploy a "Armada" towards North Korea? There might not be a full on war between North Korea and US, but there might be some conflicts, as we know that North Korea is rash about some decisions. Also, didn't China deploy around 150.000 soldiers to the boarder with NK?

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