Topic: [Warning] Don't share your casino account! - page 3. (Read 781 times)

No, there was nothing about this, but I assume that this is exactly the scheme there. Do you really know nothing about the scheme when you are offered to bet on a “fixed match” and the commission (payment for your help) is very generous (up to 50%)? Moreover, you won’t even bet your money - the required amount will be transferred to you. The problem is that these coins are stolen and the scammers don’t care how much you pay - if you win, they will receive 50%, but with the white money that you receive from the casino, you will also receive the winnings, but also subsequent problems with the police (you provided your account, which means there will be questions to you). This is money laundering where you are left with dirty money in your hands.

I have an account on a gambling site that uses fiat currency for deposits and withdrawals, the gambling site requires KYC when registering and they will only approve if there is a withdrawal request to a bank account in my name. In their gambling site regulations, it is prohibited to make withdrawal requests to bank accounts that are not in the name of the registrant, they also prohibit changing bank accounts if the name of the bank account owner is different from the KYC that has been registered. Do conditions like this also allow hackers to steal our money?

This is entirely new to me I never imagined that some users or this type of hunter would read and collect such information to exploit it. If I hadnt come across your thread and one day posted my bets and shared SSs, I might have fallen for such offers. To be honest I'm always on the lookout for opportunities, so if someone presented and offered me with a deal like this I might easily have agreed to it. It's important to be honest with ourselves when there's profit involved (small or big) our minds often overlook the risks of falling into a bad trap. I appreciate the lesson you've shared, and I'll be more cautious in the future because I think I may have already shared such information.
I have received a similar offer but it was in the opposite direction.I mean someone offered me granteed betting signals but required me to use my own money to place a bet, guaranteeing a 100% win in exchange for 20% of the profit I earned from that bet. It's an old trick where scammers share betting signals with many people. For exp, in a match between Team 1 and Team 2, the scammer might ask one victim to bet on Team 1 and another victim to bet on Team 2 ensuring a win of 20% regardless of the outcome he will receive his 20% share.

Your situation is entirely new and it is an advanced scam because the scammer has access to inside informations and fixed games. People should be so caution especially on Bitcointalk which is known as a popular place where  gamblers gather in the gambling section.

The same case to luring people to Ponzi schemes, trading groups, sports betting tips, and others. That type of practice is already common in social media platforms, especially Telegram and the only way to avoid those is to have our personal settings restricts message from the unknown.

Here in our forum, we can modify our personal message settings here.

Most users that likely to reach out victims are mostly newbie accounts so it's good way to consider not to received PMs from newbies.


If we refer to OP's shared story, those guys that sent him a message probably encounter one of his threads here in the Gambling section. And probably based on the details that those people saw on that thread, they think OP is a heavy gambler making him a good candidate for their scheme if they were able to lure OP successfully.

You do well for bringing this to the forum to give awareness for everyone to see and be careful with their accounts. This thing you said is not only in gambling but also in trading platforms, I have seen this in trading platforms more than gambling side. I have received plenty message from telegram users to send them my account for them to trade on behalf of me then when they have made enough they would share it with me or I should registered in their platform and send them money for them to trade for me.

Mates, I refused to do that because I don't know who behind the scene to do me what is not good. Someone that has all the sense organs will not share his information to anyone to gamble because that is a personal security which the person must keep away from anyone. Ones again thank you for the information.

I've experienced how Casinos used to consider huge money getting into an account. Particularly with gamblers who doesn't wager much with big money. I never wager with big money, all my bets used to be few dollars and to the max going out of control it could go high as $50. One day funds kept aside were moved towards the casino for gambling and the deposit kept rejected. I don't know why this is happening. Later I requested the support and they asked source and then only it can be deposited.

There are platforms that are working in such a way. With these platforms we're on the safer side, however if we're unlucky the money might get deposited and end with different problems getting connected with the deposit. So, it is good to be on the safer side avoiding shared bets from unknown persons.

The first red flag out here is the fact that they are messaging you out of the blue. Most people, especially those who are already doing alright on their own wouldn't message you for anything, unless they gravely need you to do something for them, like work or something. In this case they are luring you out in the open so they can scam the hell out of you. It also puzzles me how they were able to discern that you are a gambler. Most of the time, save for the occasional hit or miss adverts these bots won't bug you if you're not into some sort of shady telegram group. If you're in a group and are experiencing that kind of stuff especially on a regular basis, you have to message the admin of that group to do something with bots.

The fight against these bots start with having the common sense to tell between a real deal or a fake one. Do yourself a favor and make sure you don't fall for exploitative stuff like this again by arming yourself with the proper knowledge.

There may be no transfer of accounts from us to those people because those people send us their money, and we place bets for them. But I wonder about their game, are they not afraid if we take their money and disappear from them? They also don't have our account details, so we still control our account or do we give them our account so they can use it to make big bets?

But lending our account to them is not worth it. At least, if our account is not used to using very large amounts of money, it will arouse suspicion from the casino. And even though our account has full KYC, the casino can still be suspicious. We really have to be careful with our accounts and guard them well.

Some gamblers that are truly in need might bite on this one if the offer is handful amount of money. But if you ever are thinking of your identity and reputation, you'll not take this.

Just think of it that someone is going to trust you with their money and then you'll get a commission for a win. Why so? They can gamble on their own and just take the profit for themselves without even the need to share it to the others.

You don't know where the money came from, maybe from dark market places, from money laundering and any other illegal activities. So, we're gamblers and just don't do desperate acts like this when you don't know the source of their money.

Better to gamble with our own funds and let it lose.

I missed some part of the thread but was OP asked to buy BTC using a credit card?
It makes sense to decline when it's something like this which is the reason for them to reach out and ask someone to bet for them after they mistakenly assume OP is a high roller.

However, if they are real,  they are also risking a lot of money that they would send to someone anonymous like OP. I wonder how those guys would recover the funds let's say OP withdraws the funds to his wallet. It would be funny to learn he scammed the credit card thief.

Yes. Simple life experience (in all areas) indicates that if we receive a lucrative offer from shady individuals, then there is definitely some kind of catch here and the matter will end in a loss. I try to keep my data private and will never get involved in any scheme where I will not clearly see and understand the entire process from beginning to end. Taking on responsibility (even criminal liability if the other party is involved in stolen credit cards) for the sake of any profit is super stupid.

They are being limited because they are doing something shady that violates the casino ToS. Don’t get carried away on someone using the victim card of being limited because casino will never limit you easily if you will olay fairly.

There’s a group of cheaters that abusing casino promotion like cash back which they bet both side of the same match using different casino then claim the cashback offered once they lose on the other side then pay minimal lose on the -EV of the match they pick. Some use arbitrage and other strategy that is not fair play with the casino. Anyone offering this kind of deal should be considered as involved on malicious activity.

I tend to avoid problems instead of being tempted to bet on behalf of other people on my account with a profit sharing system. Regardless of whether they are a money laundering syndicate or whatever, the best solution is to avoid them so that problems don't arise in the future.

To be honest, I also had an unpleasant experience regarding almost the same case. I bet on behalf of someone else on my fiat-based casino account sometime in 2015, but for one simple reason, my relationship with that person turned sour. Obviously I don't want to repeat the same mistake on a crypto based casino account whatever the reason, it is the best way to avoid problems.

As long as you don't give the password of your email address, or the code in your OTP when you get a confirmation about changing your password, you will be safe, although like you said, they might still perform other abuses which can affect the reputation of our account.

Maybe there are also legit deals about this because some bettors are only being limited for winning too much. Limits might still be normal and not a kind of serious offense, and the limits can still reset after some time. If we are rarely playing, we can lend our accounts to them for a while and still make money passively, but if we are in doubt, then much better to ignore it.

Wow! First time I heard about this kind of scheme. But I am curious on how they could sacrifice their money just for this, perhaps the money is really illegal because they are ready to risk it with another user.
Anyway, you are right, we should not share anything about our account especially if we already passed the KYC requirements, it could mean our own lives, and the authority knocking on our doors if they can prove that we are part of an illegal activity like this.
Thanks for sharing this OP, I learned one more lesson today although I have not experienced it yet. This is a good thing to make gamblers more aware about many schemes that have been scattered all over the gambling industry and this is what gambling sites are also trying to avoid.

One thing which make us accept such deal is greediness. Of course when we accept the deal, it is either we get money either in profit sharing form or a fixed amount and the offer is so lucrative that it is hard to ignore. Another human sociology is that when accepting such deal our heart says that there would not bad associated with the deal and everything will fair and we may earn some easy bucks.

However, the sad realty is what the OP experienced. We need to be careful indeed and not indulge ourselves in undue problems.

Betting on behalf of someone you don't know would be ridiculously dumb to do and don't know the scam in it but nothing good can come of it.  Why would they need you to bet for them for commission just sell your knowledge and they can take those picks and bet themselves. 

LOL! I agree. I have a theory that governments might actually want us to be able to launder money easily from time to time. Otherwise, why would banknotes be made of materials like cotton paper, textiles, or even synthetic fibers instead of traditional paper, as they were in the past? It's like they're saying, "Go ahead, give those bills a good spin in the washing machine!" 

I agree that this could just be an attempt to your account and at this point everyone should be very careful as well.
We've seen some hacks recently on land based casinos or even to a reputable online casino as well.
Meaning everyone in the gambling world is being targeted for whatever reasons from certain entities.
Whether to used your account to launder or wash out their money.
The point is that we should just be very attentive going on as we don't want to fell victims from such groups.

I can sense it is nothing but an attempt to launder the money if the offer is legit but do you think they are actually going to send you money to bet?

Because there are still casinos that offer no KYC as mandatory it won't be that hard to buy ID from the darknet for very little money and use it to create multiple accounts. So I guess it also can be a trick to get access to your account in some way and who knows if you have any balance they will drain and flee.

But I am kind of curious how many members from bitcointalk community received such offers or its only you.