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Why you delete all questions? If you not want questions tell that on facebook page. Then I not waste time.
I ask many questions because your numbers not sum up and not correct on blockchain and you not answer simple question. Then you delete all. Very bad communication.
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Since you are not comfortable with the information provided to date then we understand you will not be investing with us, and we thank you for your time. Michael Zinck on behalf of Stakeminers.
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February 22 at 9:28pm ·
Stakeminers - What's Your Income Goal?
Stakeminers is designed to provide you with a weekly payout. But how much bitcoin do you need to deposit to reach your goal? Good question and here's the formula.
Say I want to earn $25 USD per week:
$25 per week x 52 weeks = $1300 per year. Divide $1300/0.5% base earnings = 2600/$400 USD BTC price = 6.5 BTC.
But let's say I only have 2 BTC, how much will I earn each week? Reverse the formula.
2 BTC x $400 USD BTC price = $800 x 0.5% base earnings = 400/ 52 weeks = $7.69 USD per
week.
So what are you waiting for, let us help you reach your goal. Sign up today, deposit
today, and start getting a payout next Monday!
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Stakeminers earnings and the USD BTC price will vary and values shown here are to
illustrate the math.
Stakeminers.com is a crypto-currency altcoin Proof of Stake (POS) company with current
holdings in 10 altcoins. We provide our clients with a variable rate of return
generated from our stake pool earnings. Please see our website Stakeminers.com or
email us at: info (at) stakeminers.com for more information.
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Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв This is complicate. Tell me simple. I give you 50 BTC. How much you pay per week?
Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:03pm
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StakeMiners.com Right now our weekly income is 1/2%. last year we did very well and reached up to 2% a week. But past performance can not always decide future results. So as of right now our weekly income is providing us with 1/2% a week return on what we have deposited. This is much Much higher than any back account such as Savings accounts offering up to 1.05% a YEAR, 5 year CDs are up to 2.2% a YEAR and Money Markets are offering 1.11% a YEAR. We are also allowing people to earn better than 60% of the Dividend Stocks available for investment right now.
We can not give a direct estimation, becasue we would never want to mislead anyone. We can only tell you what we are earning at the present moment and what we were able to deliver in the past. We are also working continuously to provide a higher weekly return to the members.
Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:55pm
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StakeMiners.com what kind of weekly income are you looking to receive, that may be a better way to approach your situation. I think for me its better to look at our system with the question of how much do i want to make every week, rather than how much can I make off any specific amount. You may not need to invest 50 BTC to earn the income you are seeking to reach. Maybe for what you are looking to earn with us weekly you could invest less and be able to diversify your investment amount in more than one portal, which is always advisable.
Like · Reply · February 29 at 7:59pm · Edited
Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв If I go to bank they tell how much percent I make after month or after year. If I buy stock they tell approximate how much percent dividend it pay. Your site is like bank or like stock? What is worst case percent?
Like · Reply · February 29 at 8:15pm
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StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв Right now 1/2% a week is our lowest rate of return we have seen since we started and a little over 2% a week is the best we have seen. A 50 BTC deposit would actually increase this weekly return a little, possibly getting it very near 1% a week. As an example a few weeks ago we saw 3/4% for one week, so our returns move depending on what the coins are worth on the market.
We try and give you an approximate ammount based on what we know and have experienced. But we do not control the values of the coins we are staking, those values are decided upon by the markets. However the more coins we hold in our portfolio the higher our weekly income becomes. Because the more we hold the more we earn.
I would not say we are like a Bank or Stocks, I was just giving a comparison to what is available out there people are investing in on a long term mindset. I like to inform people, but I never want to mislead them into putting their BTC with us, I would rather you have lower amounts in your calculation than higher than expected estimates. because if we can over perform on what you expect it is a win win for both of us.
Where as if you are expecting 2% and we can not deliver that, you will be dissatisfied with the return you expected and I will be unhappy I could not deliver what you felt I promised you.
Like · Reply · February 29 at 8:25pm
Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв What is 1/2%? Is 1% or 2%?
Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:15pm
Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв You have page with past percent earning?
Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:16pm
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StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв Yes when you log in there is a chart that shows the returns for a 1 BTC investment over the history of the site. 1/2% is half of 1% I am not sure how to really explain that one for you. So, right now the weekly income is 1/2% of what your deposited amount is. Also you can follow our weekly updates they will say exactly what we got in returns for each week also to keep informed on what is going on with our income.
Like · Reply · February 29 at 9:36pm · Edited
Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв I not understand 1 BTC chart. Why is chart USD? Do you have numbers BTC? Or percent? I not use USD.
I understand percent now. Half 1% is 0.5% worst case. 120 BTC you have invested you pay 0.5% is 0.6 BTC per week yes? And 50 BTC pay 0.25 BTC per week yes?
Like · Reply · 1 · February 29 at 10:04pm
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StakeMiners.com The USD part of the chart is for the clients who are selling their BTC for USD after they receive their weekly payout. Not everyone uses our service for just BTC benefit, a lot of us exchange our income for USD.
And you are correct in your second paragraph.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 6:59pm · Edited
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Caшa Boдopoдoв I look payout page https://stakeminers.com/transactions.php
It include withdraws? How much is withdraw how much is percent pay? Last week 0.76638050 BTC
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 7:14pm
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StakeMiners.com There are other withdraws which are not in BTC paid out in the week. People who are withdrawing coins they have deposited. So in addition to the BTC payouts and withdraws we also have direct coin withdraws that are processed. Last week we had both Netcoin and BitBean withdraws in addition to that number you have quoted. Next wek we will have some HyperStake and RateCoin withdraws, and so on and so forth.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:06pm · Edited
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StakeMiners.com Remember this is a Staking pool, and there are number of ways members can deposit. StakeMiners.com also allows current coin stakers who want to generate a higher income than staking on thier own an ability to do so. We are one of the first POS pools that was designed to cater to as many different crypto enthusiasts as we could, so we also allow people to invest BTC to earn an income as well.
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Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:09pm
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Caшa Boдopoдoв is payout page https://stakeminers.com/transactions.php not include withdraws? or some withdraws? I ask how much 0.76638050 BTC is withdraws and how much is dividend. I not find this numbers on site.
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Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:20pm
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StakeMiners.com Yes sir I understand you are using the transactions page to try and calculate a return, and you are correct that number does not include all the withdraws, just the BTC related information, (BTC payouts and Withdraws).
You are trying to base your calculations on how many BTC have been deposited Site Wide, as a total of BTC plus the value of the altcoins that were deposited at the time they were deposited. Basing your returns from the site wide valuations is not going to give you the return you are expecting.
The 1/2% calculation is based on what account holders are receiving at the moment. But in there 0.41 BTC was payouts. which if you do a site wide valuation it would seem equal to 1.3% that week Due to different coin price variances and market conditions, which is not what account holders are receiving, so for me if I based our weekly returns on the actual BTC value we are holding in altcoins site wide as you are trying to do, then it would be misleading as you would be expecting to get 1.3% a week when account holders are actually getting 1/2% a week.
As I mentioned calculations and estimations are not easy for a Multicoin POS pool such as ours, Due to the diversification in our portfolio and the many different coin markets price variations and movements, the slightest mistake in calculations could mislead someone into thinking they will get a better return than we could actually provide.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:12pm · Edited
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Caшa Boдopoдoв I write above "120 BTC you have invested you pay 0.5% is 0.6 BTC per week yes?" and you say is correct. But you say now it is 0.41 BTC payout. It is 0.6 BTC or 0.41 BTC? 0.5% or not? This confusing.
You have all numbers on one place? on website?
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StakeMiners.com The yes is to the 1/2% returns, and actually as I said if you based it on the BTC holdings of the site, the amount would be more equal to 1.3% which is higher than 1/2% account holders are receiving which could be misleading if we used site wide valuations.
The answer to your question is right now members are receiving 1/2% of thier deposited amount, so YES members are getting 1/2% a week of their deposited amount.
So if you deposited 120 BTC YES (BASED ON CURRENT PAYOUTS) you would be receiving 0.6 BTC per week. Our income is paying 1/2% a week right now to our members.
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Caшa Boдopoдoв ok how much money site has invested now? says 121.05915991 BTC Invested on dashboard. Should have 0.6 per week transaction payout, no? Why is 0.41 BTC?
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StakeMiners.com Becasue the value of the coins we hold have decreased due to factors out of our control. There has been a large increase in BTC value which has pushed altcoin values down right now, and a situation with an insolvent/hacked exchange which cause large sell pressure on altcoin markets that was abnormal. This is why in our chart you also see a USD value of returns in addition to BTC value, so people looking to get their USD value out of their income can see what they are making also. 121 BTC has been deposited over the past year, and just over 130 has been paid out over this past year, the altcoin values are closer to 35 BTC right now due to market conditions.
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StakeMiners.com For your investment I would suggest you purchase one of the coins we stake directly and invest with that. or if you are looking to invest 50 BTC get a handful of all of them, and then do not reinvest but get a weekly paycheck. Do not buy them all at once put in buy orders and wait until they are filled. A 50 BTC investment is a large amount of buy pressure on markets and you never want to drop that much on a market all at once. This is why we usually do the buying for the clients, we serve as a cloud service where you do not have to do any of the work related to earning an income with us, we make sure you get the most for your money we can possibly provide,
Our Vice Chairman has another suggestion for a client of your stature who could probably go over some other options for you, but he is out of his country at the moment. I just want to make sure you are well informed, understand the system, how it is our income is generated, and what you can safely expect from our service. For me right now the best way for that to happen may be for you to purchase the coins we stake and deposit those.
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Caшa Boдopoдoв
Caшa Boдopoдoв ok i not understand this numbers. can you tell
a - how much deposited total per year
b - hoe much withdraw total per year
c - how much week payout total per year
d - how much decrease value total per year
e - how much have now
and should be a - b - d = e, yes? and if c < d then bad investment, yes?
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StakeMiners.com We have only been here for a year, and the sites numbers are correct.
A- 121 BTC ( this numbers changes every week due to withdraws and reinvestments.
B - 130 BTC have been paid out since we launched
C - Clients are earning 1/2% of what they deposit per week right now
D - This number fluctuates all year long, In the beginning of the year last year we saw an increase of +72% in our holdings. The most recent weekly update on this page shows we have -75% decrease in value for the altcoins we hold.
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Caшa Boдopoдoв i look 1 BTC chart on dashboard and add all BTC numbers
0.01646596 + 0.06066700 + 0.08548808 + 0.10078224 + 0.11290820 + 0.08299243 + 0.07019654 + 0.04485757 + 0.03531942 + 0.03003435 = 0.63971179
about 64% if invested one BTC at beginning. How did you do 130 BTC payouts on 121 BTC invested?
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Caшa Boдopoдoв ok... maybe my language is not good
a - how much deposits only without withdraws
b - how much withdraws only without payouts
c - how much week payout only without withdraw
d - 75% of 121 BTC? so 90 BTC yes?
e - how much now site has?
you have this numbers yes? like you do accounting and check if sum is correct and you doing good or bad. Same I would check if sum is correct a - b - d = e and if c < d then I know if good investment or bad.
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EDIT: More quotes:StakeMiners.com C is less than D yes you are correct.
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StakeMiners.com C is less than D yes you are correct.
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StakeMiners.com Caшa Boдopoдoв " i look 1 BTC chart on dashboard and add all BTC numbers
0.01646596 + 0.06066700 + 0.08548808 + 0.10078224 + 0.11290820 + 0.08299243 + 0.07019654 + 0.04485757 + 0.03531942 + 0.03003435 = 0.63971179
about 64% if invested one BTC at beginning. How did you do 130 BTC payouts on 121 BTC invested?"
That is a single account holding 1 BTC with us, and as you can see by your calculations it would seem that account gained 64% in one year of returns. the other 2 numbers you have listed are site wide (All the members together) and the payouts are week one plus week two plus week 3 and so on until 12 months later equaling a total amount paid as 130 BTC.
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Caшa Boдopoдoв StakeMiners.com how can be different? if 1 BTC pay 64% how can all 121 BTC pay 130 BTC that is more than 100%?
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StakeMiners.com The weekly return on Current deposits with us is 1/2%. As I stated 20 messages up, you are trying to base a return on site wide values which include past performance which will not tell you what a specific account holder can earn right now. Account holders are making 1/2% a week. If you would like to earn 1/2% a week than we are an opportunity for you. If that is to low a return for your expectations I apologize, but right now with current market conditions that is what we are paying.
