Was able to snag a 4070 at Best Buy today.

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Quote from: FP91G on April 20, 2023, 07:40:41 AM

Russia,Palit GeForce RTX 4070 Dual OC
Promotion from the sbermegamarket store, which is owned by the largest Russian bank, Sberbank.

The price is 74,282 ₽, USDT can be sold for 83.50 rubles, so 74282/83.5 = 889.6 dollars
Cashback 25999/83.5 = $311.6.

I have the option to buy this graphics card for 889.6-311.6 or $578.

https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-palit-geforce-rtx-4070-dual-oc-ned4070s19k9-1047d-100051294623/
But even at this price, the payback period is huge.

There are a lot of interesting options, but there is no demand for video cards from miners at a price of 4-5 cents for electricity
https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-windforce-oc-12gb-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd-100051233808/
https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-eagle-oc-12gb-gv-n4070eagle-oc-12gd-100051233806/
According to the monitoring of Russian chats and the opinions of miners, there is no demand for a new model cheaper than the recommended price.

It is why I only got the one.

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Russia,Palit GeForce RTX 4070 Dual OC
Promotion from the sbermegamarket store, which is owned by the largest Russian bank, Sberbank.

The price is 74,282 ₽, USDT can be sold for 83.50 rubles, so 74282/83.5 = 889.6 dollars
Cashback 25999/83.5 = $311.6.

I have the option to buy this graphics card for 889.6-311.6 or $578.

https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-palit-geforce-rtx-4070-dual-oc-ned4070s19k9-1047d-100051294623/
But even at this price, the payback period is huge.

There are a lot of interesting options, but there is no demand for video cards from miners at a price of 4-5 cents for electricity
https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-windforce-oc-12gb-gv-n4070wf3oc-12gd-100051233808/
https://sbermegamarket.ru/catalog/details/videokarta-gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-eagle-oc-12gb-gv-n4070eagle-oc-12gd-100051233806/
According to the monitoring of Russian chats and the opinions of miners, there is no demand for a new model cheaper than the recommended price.

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og has some solar if I recall correctly.

At og they are better than 1080 or 1080ti.

If you have 1080ti they sell on ebay at about 200-220

so 1200-400= 800 for the upgrade.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 19, 2023, 02:13:52 AM

How do you feel about the 4070 and its ROI? Is it worth picking up for a home miner? I’ve still got those 2 1080s I bought from you Phillip and could probably use an upgrade but I’m worried with the state of GPU mining it isn’t worth it. Would be interested in your opinion. It is nice that GPUs are once again available for MSRP.

I'm not philipma1957 but the important point is how much do you pay for electricity and what country do you live in. At 6 cents per kilowatt, you don't make 50 cents a day. But if you have GTX1080 video cards, then you probably have no problems with electricity.

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How do you feel about the 4070 and its ROI? Is it worth picking up for a home miner? I’ve still got those 2 1080s I bought from you Phillip and could probably use an upgrade but I’m worried with the state of GPU mining it isn’t worth it. Would be interested in your opinion. It is nice that GPUs are once again available for MSRP.

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Quote from: sxemini on April 18, 2023, 09:37:28 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2023, 09:26:41 AM

What pool allows that combo?

What pool? You can choose every pool you want, not the pool is the point, choose the right miner

That's right, pools have nothing to do with dual mining. You don't even need a special miner, you run multiple miner instances on your own,
even using different miners. You can mix pool and solo. You can do it with CPU or GPU but not FPGA or ASIC. It would be possible to design an ASIC or
FPGA to dual mine, but like all HW accelerators that's all they could do. I'm not aware of any that exist.

The only issue with home made dual mining is balancing the intensity of the algos to provide the best combined throughput. Mining software that
supports dual nmining attempts to do that but it requires using the same miner on both algos.

Mining managers like HiveOS and Awesomeminer could theoretically support dual mining with different miners but, again, Im not aware any that do.

Edit: I'll pile on about the GPU spacing. Fixed slot width motherborads are is too limiting. They're really only suitable for single slot GPUs or dual slot blowers.
AIO water cooled GPUs would work but would have issues with radiator space if you have more than one.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2023, 09:26:41 AM

Quote from: sxemini on April 18, 2023, 06:14:56 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2023, 12:45:46 AM

Every gpu in the photos except the 4070 has done etc+zil at ezil

but this octopus conflux is a bit more than etc+zil

I should try and see if I can do the three.

I mine Conflux 54mh + Kas 400mh + Zil 58mh @ 180w with my 3070 at the moment for some tests. i hope we get more dual algos for conflux like rxd, alephium, ironfish. and for sure, i hope some miner devs keep an eye on conflux, because gminer devfee is to high, but they can take it, because we have no really good other choice.

What pool allows that combo?

I am using some gear on ezil which does etc + zil

Living in USA I have a lot of issues finding exchanges to support coins.

I put my zilla in a wallet it is hard to find a US based exchange that allows trading it.
I put my CFX in a wallet it is hard to find a US based exchange that allows trading it.

If I go Conflux + kas + zil and use a pool I also will need to figure how to hold or trade those coins.

We are very limited to exchanges and coins in USA.

What pool? You can choose every pool you want, not the pool is the point, choose the right miner - gminer at the moment for cfx+kas+zil. Gminer also has the option to continue mining while it mine zil - you can adjust the dual hashrate in zil windows too. My kaspa hasrate at the zilliqa mining went up from 400mh to 500mh for this short. so you loose nothing on the 2 algo, other miners loosing 3 - 4% mining time if you add Zil (as often explained - zil mining window is overall longer than 1 minute!!!!!)
And why you using ezil for zil? use flexpool or crazypool - a lot higher reward of coins. I know some people fudding flexpool, but the rewards on zmp flexpool for zil is same or higher as crazypool with less mining time. i tested it now for 3 months and checked all every day.
you don´t need a etc+zil pool anymore or for long time.
miner developers added native zil mining option to there miners. Teamredminer can mine 3 coins on 3 different pools at the same time - same for: SRBminer, Rigelminer, BZminer, Gminer, TRM for sure

other good option is ergo+kas/rxd/aleph/iron..... +zil

You cant use Binance or Coinbase for selling your coins? Sorry i don´t know much about the USA law about crypto.

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Quote from: sxemini on April 18, 2023, 06:14:56 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2023, 12:45:46 AM

Every gpu in the photos except the 4070 has done etc+zil at ezil

but this octopus conflux is a bit more than etc+zil

I should try and see if I can do the three.

I mine Conflux 54mh + Kas 400mh + Zil 58mh @ 180w with my 3070 at the moment for some tests. i hope we get more dual algos for conflux like rxd, alephium, ironfish. and for sure, i hope some miner devs keep an eye on conflux, because gminer devfee is to high, but they can take it, because we have no really good other choice.

What pool allows that combo?

I am using some gear on ezil which does etc + zil

Living in USA I have a lot of issues finding exchanges to support coins.

I put my zilla in a wallet it is hard to find a US based exchange that allows trading it.
I put my CFX in a wallet it is hard to find a US based exchange that allows trading it.

If I go Conflux + kas + zil and use a pool I also will need to figure how to hold or trade those coins.

We are very limited to exchanges and coins in USA.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 18, 2023, 12:45:46 AM

Every gpu in the photos except the 4070 has done etc+zil at ezil

but this octopus conflux is a bit more than etc+zil

I should try and see if I can do the three.

I mine Conflux 54mh + Kas 400mh + Zil 58mh @ 180w with my 3070 at the moment for some tests. i hope we get more dual algos for conflux like rxd, alephium, ironfish. and for sure, i hope some miner devs keep an eye on conflux, because gminer devfee is to high, but they can take it, because we have no really good other choice.

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Every gpu in the photos except the 4070 has done etc+zil at ezil

but this octopus conflux is a bit more than etc+zil

I should try and see if I can do the three.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 15, 2023, 01:35:28 PM

Yeah first off I got this one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-12gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6539358.p?skuId=6539358

here it is paired with a 3090 just Hooked up to do octopus

it pulls 134 watts to do 59 mh

and 3090 pulls 299 watts to do 99 mh

clearly more efficient than a 3090 while doing octopus.

I thought you bought the Asus, with 1 8-pin connector hehehe.
I think the founder's edition is beautiful, I never managed to buy one, it's very hard to get one outside the US.

Have you ever tried to mine 2 or 3 coins at the same time with one of these gpus?
I've seen a lot of people doing it, but I haven't tried it myself.
I think it's Kaspa+ETC+ZIL

Thanks for pictures Grin

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I am not that impressed at 0.24 daily pure profit with Radiant in the first place from the comparisons,I hope it improves further.My two GPU-s Rtx 3060 ti and Rtx 2060 12 GB which are pulling in lowest power mode 205 watt both of them and I am mining Raptoreum the profit is 130 coins,which is 0.30 minus the energy goes to 0.24-0.25 which is the same almost to this new GPU.

I hope this is just the beginning and Nvidia other drivers that will come with the passing of time improve such card or if not I hope the price will go to a more affordable level at 250-300 dollars,I doubt the price right now is ideal but it was a good choice to try it out.

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@ fp915

Well the 3090 is watercooled. you can lay cards on top of it and it runs cool.

there are two low power 3060s beyond the 3090

so 4070 - large space - water cooled kingpin 3090 - 3060 - 3060

135 watts
300 watts
110 watts
110 watts.

I think the moron 12 pin connector is stupid. Just one more issue to happen.

I will play with settings to see what it can get out of it.

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Congrats with new gpu,looking good and i think there will some coins more profitable for newer gpus.

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Quote from: rdluffy on April 15, 2023, 12:22:10 PM

Looks like the sweet spot of RTX 4xxx generation
Only one connector, 12gb GDDR6X and a reasonable price.

I do not agree, ROI is slightly worse than 4070 Ti, and after brake-even you will make less profit with 4070 compared to 4070 Ti. Also 4070 with 1x8pin connector are with smaller cooler.

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The calculator shows a small profit on octopus.
It's bad that Founders Edition does not have an 8-pin power connector.
No one will scare old miners with low profit

How close you have such powerful video cards installed. I wouldn't do that.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on April 15, 2023, 01:35:28 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on April 15, 2023, 12:22:10 PM

Looks like the sweet spot of RTX 4xxx generation
Only one connector, 12gb GDDR6X and a reasonable price.

Post some actual pictures of your gpu if you can, and what you will mine with it.
Did you buy one just to test it?

In my country it is not available yet, only for shipment starting May 15

Yeah first off I got this one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-12gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6539358.p?skuId=6539358

here it is paired with a 3090 just Hooked up to do octopus

it pulls 134 watts to do 59 mh

and 3090 pulls 299 watts to do 99 mh

clearly more efficient than a 3090 while doing octopus.

59mh @134w? not much better than a RTX3070 with 54mh @ 135w Cheesy

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Eye candy

left 4070 fe

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Quote from: rdluffy on April 15, 2023, 12:22:10 PM

Looks like the sweet spot of RTX 4xxx generation
Only one connector, 12gb GDDR6X and a reasonable price.

Post some actual pictures of your gpu if you can, and what you will mine with it.
Did you buy one just to test it?

In my country it is not available yet, only for shipment starting May 15

Yeah first off I got this one.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-12gb-gddr6x-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6539358.p?skuId=6539358

here it is paired with a 3090 just Hooked up to do octopus

it pulls 134 watts to do 59 mh

and 3090 pulls 299 watts to do 99 mh

clearly more efficient than a 3090 while doing octopus.

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Looks like the sweet spot of RTX 4xxx generation
Only one connector, 12gb GDDR6X and a reasonable price.

Post some actual pictures of your gpu if you can, and what you will mine with it.
Did you buy one just to test it?

In my country it is not available yet, only for shipment starting May 15

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