Wasabi topic hijacked by crooked Kruw - page 2.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 09:36:07 AM

I will repeat again - Kruw accused all bitcointalk members who ever had any mixer signature in their profiles as scammers.

Have you checked that I've written a red feedback for this reason?

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 09:36:07 AM

And YES, there are such things as SCAM centralized coordinators, most of them are not active anymore and they are probably controlled by one guy.

Do you mean a scam in the recent 0-day incident sense, or generally they're lying about the privacy gains? The coordinators weren't a lot to begin with. It was just one, zkSNACKs', and then, when it got shut down, some people like Kruw decided to run their own.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 09:36:07 AM

I didn't see theymos or other DT members supporting mixing services that facilitated North Korean hackers and money laundering, but I guess some coordinators are like polar bears for you.

So, let me get this straight. Anyone who promoted a mixing service that facilitated money laundering, or provided liquidity to that service, is considered a criminal, in your view?

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Whatever his beliefs about analysis when attempting coinjoins, that should have been where is focus remained. When he started defending his action and started insulting members (and especially attacking a highly respected recently departed one), he stooped low in to gutter levels of disgrace. He has no way to get back in to any positive light of most members here.

Maybe he promoted his services after his reputation fell because he just cannot control that overinflated ego.

Quote from: JeromeTash on July 10, 2024, 06:07:53 PM

Kruw dug an early, deep grave for himself, but his arrogance and ill ego wouldn't let him get back to any form of normal senses. Sometimes I even wondered why he wasted his time advertising around here after showing how toxic he is.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on July 10, 2024, 06:07:53 PM

Sometimes I even wondered why he wasted his time advertising around here after showing how toxic he is.

He didn't expect so much resistance from certain people. He thought no one would oppose him and would be praising him and the software he represents and advertises. When people started seeing through his bullshit, he decided to go on a rampage against anyone who didn't shower him with praises and positive comments. That's when he started calling people scammers, thieves, bitches for not running their own coordinators, and also accused them for being anti open-source, anti-bitcoin, and anti-privacy.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 10, 2024, 12:00:15 PM

I would actually be happy if this was true for the reasons you touched upon. Many users who wore mixer signatures were called scammers. He said they should be ashamed of themselves for tricking people into using mixers and they personally should return the money they stole. Only a degenerate could think of something like that. Fast forward to the present, we are reading news about scammers using his personal coordinator to allegedly launder money. Using his retarded viewpoint, he is a scammer who should be ashamed for letting it happen. If signature participants are thieves and scammers who steal money, he is a criminal who participates in money laundering. Either both of these statements are true or neither of them are. I wonder if the mentally insane Kruw now has a different view on his past statements considering that he is now personally affected!? And when I say personally affected, he is as much to blame for this as the signature participants who he called thieves and scammers.

Couldn't agree more.

"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword"

I guess we should apply the same logic he used to label him a scammer too.

Kruw dug an early, deep grave for himself, but his arrogance and ill ego wouldn't let him get back to any form of normal senses. Sometimes I even wondered why he wasted his time advertising around here after showing how toxic he is.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 06:23:22 AM

Kruw centralized coordinator crap appears to be directly connected with scammer who hacked several exchanges MEXC, Gate, Binance, Kraken, OKX, HTX, HitBTC, etc.
This is direct money laundering and now we can say that Kruw is also a scammer and criminal, and that is much worse than all his unproved scam accusations against bitcointalk members.

I would actually be happy if this was true for the reasons you touched upon. Many users who wore mixer signatures were called scammers. He said they should be ashamed of themselves for tricking people into using mixers and they personally should return the money they stole. Only a degenerate could think of something like that. Fast forward to the present, we are reading news about scammers using his personal coordinator to allegedly launder money. Using his retarded viewpoint, he is a scammer who should be ashamed for letting it happen. If signature participants are thieves and scammers who steal money, he is a criminal who participates in money laundering. Either both of these statements are true or neither of them are. I wonder if the mentally insane Kruw now has a different view on his past statements considering that he is now personally affected!? And when I say personally affected, he is as much to blame for this as the signature participants who he called thieves and scammers.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 10, 2024, 08:33:31 AM

You literally called a coordinator a scam for facilitating stolen coins.

You literally don't understand my point so I am not going to reply to your posts anymore and try to explain it.
And YES, there are such things as SCAM centralized coordinators, most of them are not active anymore and they are probably controlled by one guy.
Do your research.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 10, 2024, 08:33:31 AM

What does theymos banning a certain type of service for the sake of this forum's survival have to do with treating a person as a scammer because he mixed coins with a scammer / criminal? None.

Oh the ''forum's survival'' Roll Eyes

I didn't see theymos or other DT members supporting mixing services that facilitated North Korean hackers and money laundering, but I guess some coordinators are like polar bears for you.

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I will repeat again - Kruw accused all bitcointalk members who ever had any mixer signature in their profiles as scammers.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 08:19:17 AM

There is nothing anti-bitcoin in my post

You literally called a coordinator a scam for facilitating stolen coins.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 08:19:17 AM

I only talked about hypocrite Kruw who accused everyone else for being a scammer who promoted anything other than his centralized coordinator crap.

His accusations go on custodial mixers, and their shortcomings, which are true to this date. Being censorship advocate does not make you a scammer. It might make you an anti-Bitcoin asshole, but not a scammer.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 08:19:17 AM

And I didn't hear you called theymos anti-bitcoin when he banned mixers and samourai wallet, I guess you have double standards

What does theymos banning a certain type of service for the sake of this forum's survival have to do with treating a person as a scammer because he mixed coins with a scammer / criminal? None.

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Quote from: examplens on July 10, 2024, 07:46:28 AM

Smells like a red tag.
I wouldn't be surprised if kruw is behind wasabicoordinator.io. The shit that comes from there looks a lot like him

I don't know about that, but he always presented his crap as perfectly safe service that makes Bitcoin ''anonymous''... yeah right.
Many of this coordinators were probably honeypots or made by scammers.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 10, 2024, 08:00:03 AM

Are you serious? I've opposed Kruw in a host variety of things, but this one is clearly anti-Bitcoin to argue.

There is nothing anti-bitcoin in my post, I only talked about hypocrite Kruw who accused everyone else for being a scammer who promoted anything other than his centralized coordinator crap.
And I didn't hear you called theymos anti-bitcoin when he banned mixers and samourai wallet, I guess you have double standards Roll Eyes

If you want to support hackers and thieves go ahead.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 06:23:22 AM

This is direct money laundering and now we can say that Kruw is also a scammer and criminal, and that is much worse than all his unproved scam accusations against bitcointalk members.

Are you serious? I've opposed Kruw in a host variety of things, but this one is clearly anti-Bitcoin to argue. Just because a criminal mixed his coins, does that make everyone involved a criminal? That's the anti-privacy notion we should all be defending against, not adopt.

Every single privacy solution can be declared criminally operating for allegedly facilitating illegal activities. Tor, mixers, Monero, everything. It's a shame to claim they're "scams" or "for criminals" for that reason.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 10, 2024, 06:23:22 AM

Kruw centralized coordinator crap appears to be directly connected with scammer who hacked several exchanges MEXC, Gate, Binance, Kraken, OKX, HTX, HitBTC, etc.
This is direct money laundering and now we can say that Kruw is also a scammer and criminal, and that is much worse than all his unproved scam accusations against bitcointalk members.
We also found out that many of wasabi centralized coordinators are just another way of attack on bitcoin users.

Smells like a red tag.
I wouldn't be surprised if kruw is behind wasabicoordinator.io. The shit that comes from there looks a lot like him

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Kruw centralized coordinator crap appears to be directly connected with scammer who hacked several exchanges MEXC, Gate, Binance, Kraken, OKX, HTX, HitBTC, etc.
This is direct money laundering and now we can say that Kruw is also a scammer and criminal, and that is much worse than all his unproved scam accusations against bitcointalk members.
We also found out that many of wasabi centralized coordinators are just another way of attack on bitcoin users.

wabisabi coinjoin tx:
https://mempool.space/tx/538a97650fc877efcaf55fd36d8e06a675873284a160efbaf59c60f7880ae750

kruw coordinator used:
https://wasabist.io/8/95e809d3c00fd3beaddef141b021ddaab64dbf23f3a74035a5b983f8894cf77c

Source:
https://x.com/1440000bytes/status/1810923857584242755

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 02, 2024, 05:59:15 AM

He is an insider from Wasabi, he himself has admitted he's a contributor. He may think he's advertising for the sake of the "best open-source, privacy-enhancing wallet software" in existence, and it may be morally rewarding for him.

As of last month it is no longer privacy-enhancing wallet software unless you plug in a coordinator to use.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 02, 2024, 05:59:15 AM

I refuse to believe that a company is paying a troll to derail conversations on an Internet board, effectively defaming their product. That's like shooting yourself in the foot.

He might just be their social media voice, and Bitcointalk is only one of the platforms on his list. There is no Kruw coordinator without Wasabi, so he has to advertise and talk about both. But he is an awful representative regardless of what his job is. I am repulsed by anything connected to the name Wasabi now and he is a big reason for that. I am sure that I am not the only one.

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Quote from: DaveF on June 29, 2024, 08:45:53 PM

No scam accusation against me, I guess I don't rate in his book.

He literally accused everyone who ever had any mixer signature in their profile to be scammers.
There is no need to personally name each individual members.

Quote from: DaveF on June 29, 2024, 08:45:53 PM

But, seriously to all does it matter at this point?
I think a lot of us are at fault by just leaving him neutral ratings. Perhaps a bunch of red trust and he will leave.

I am sure that he won't leave because of more red trust, and it does matter if he is constantly lying and making false accusations.

Quote from: examplens on July 02, 2024, 05:58:20 AM

Some would say that there is no such thing as bad advertising.
Kruw made an effort to talk about him here, several topics about him, at least about his behaviour towards Leo, but Wasabi's name is always included in all the discussions.
Maybe he's not paid for it, but certainly, Wasabi doesn't have much reason to come here and convince him to stop his nonsense.

He is doing a terrible job in ''advertising'' Wasabi wallet.
If he is insider of Wasabi that he is the worse insider that ever existed on this earth.

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He is an insider from Wasabi, he himself has admitted he's a contributor. He may think he's advertising for the sake of the "best open-source, privacy-enhancing wallet software" in existence, and it may be morally rewarding for him.

I refuse to believe that a company is paying a troll to derail conversations on an Internet board, effectively defaming their product. That's like shooting yourself in the foot. He just really likes what he's contributing at, and is willing to spend his time attacking competitors online. Not the first person, certainly not the last.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 02, 2024, 05:49:13 AM

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 02, 2024, 05:44:14 AM

Dedicating advertising? If I were Wasabi, I'd pay him to stop talking. That's not advertising. That's defamation.

What do you think it is then?
Competitor of Wasabi is paying that shit for doing all these?
Knowing how Wasabi treat the community and use the money they earn against the spirit of crypto, I do think Wasabi is paying him or he is insider from Wasabi.

Some would say that there is no such thing as bad advertising.
Kruw made an effort to talk about him here, several topics about him, at least about his behaviour towards Leo, but Wasabi's name is always included in all the discussions.
Maybe he's not paid for it, but certainly, Wasabi doesn't have much reason to come here and convince him to stop his nonsense.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on July 02, 2024, 05:44:14 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 02, 2024, 05:24:56 AM

Who will do such dedicated advertising?

Dedicating advertising? If I were Wasabi, I'd pay him to stop talking. That's not advertising. That's defamation.

What do you think it is then?
Competitor of Wasabi is paying that shit for doing all these?
Knowing how Wasabi treat the community and use the money they earn against the spirit of crypto, I do think Wasabi is paying him or he is insider from Wasabi.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 01, 2024, 02:27:23 AM

Every post of his was about how that's the right decision because you shouldn't allow criminals, scammers, and thieves privacy and the right to participate in coinjoins with honest people. Then, when zkSNACKs' coordinator sunk, he created his own and went the opposite direction. No blacklisting and everyone can participate.

I'm not sure he ever truly became anti-censorship. It's just that recently, due to liquidity constraints, he has portrayed his stance as being free of blacklists. To me, he still one major advocate for censorship, wanting to dictate how others can use their money and mocking anyone whose spending habits he disapproves of.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 02, 2024, 05:24:56 AM

Who will do such dedicated advertising?

Dedicating advertising? If I were Wasabi, I'd pay him to stop talking. That's not advertising. That's defamation.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 28, 2024, 12:53:37 PM

I have him on ignore list since then. I know it's not nice, since somebody has to counter him too and expose his lies, but yeah, my sanity matters too.

I don't believe money is his motive. His coordinator charges no fees. He's just a scumbag whose ultimate goal is to make Wasabi appear to be the best privacy solution that everyone should use. And those who don't should be burned at the stake.

Who will do such dedicated advertising? Someone from Wasabi or someone who is paid a lot of money to promote Wasabi.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on June 30, 2024, 01:10:40 PM

He is clearly another thing. I don't know what's the problem with him, to be frank. From the day he created his account, he's "defending" his buddies from everyone's reasonable concerns.

Don't forget how he passionately defended Wasabi and zkSNACKs decisions regarding blacklisting certain bitcoins and preventing them from participating in coinjoins. Every post of his was about how that's the right decision because you shouldn't allow criminals, scammers, and thieves privacy and the right to participate in coinjoins with honest people. Then, when zkSNACKs' coordinator sunk, he created his own and went the opposite direction. No blacklisting and everyone can participate. When asked what's that about and why is it now ok for those you considered criminals and scammers a few months ago to use your coordinator for their "dirty" bitcoins, he started calling people pussys for not running their own coordinator and how they are anti-privacy. Multiple users were asked, where is your coordinator? Here is mine...

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Whichever way the wind blows, the grass bends.

With the right motivation and money, you can probably get him to say anything. I would be very careful using anything of his. Something doesn't smell right about that guy.

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