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Quote from: Cryddit on March 27, 2015, 12:32:24 PM

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 03:34:54 AM

...So the guy who stole the money actually runs/owns Sheep?

Yup

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

As quickly and certainly as he was identified, and considering how long the police waited to arrest him, I'm really fairly surprised that he's still alive.

MANY people lost much more money than murder for hire costs. Any one of them could have had the disposition to "recoup or avenge" his or her loss.

Perhaps, like DPR, they hired a random Anon claiming to be a R&W heavy?

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Quote from: SilenceOfTheLamb on March 27, 2015, 12:15:38 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 03:34:54 AM

...So the guy who stole the money actually runs/owns Sheep?

Yup

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

As quickly and certainly as he was identified, and considering how long the police waited to arrest him, I'm really fairly surprised that he's still alive.

MANY people lost much more money than murder for hire costs. Any one of them could have had the disposition to "recoup or avenge" his or her loss.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 03:34:54 AM

...So the guy who stole the money actually runs/owns Sheep?

Yup

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/03/27/breaking-sheep-marketplace-owner-arrested/

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 07, 2013, 08:59:18 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on December 07, 2013, 01:55:24 PM

This kind of vigilante justice can have very bad consequences if they accuse the wrong person. Wrongful accusations can ruin peoples lives, and in this case possibly get somebody killed or tortured. If they get the wrong person I hope they're prepared for big lawsuits.

It was almost established beyond doubt that the Czech guy Tomas was the one who stole USD 100 million worth of BTCs. The evidence was so overwhelming. I think the online tracking process is over and the drug vendors are planning their physical actions.

yeah they are probably hunting him down IRL as we speak.. the spoils are not worth it if you have to sleep with one eye open.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 07, 2013, 01:55:24 PM

This kind of vigilante justice can have very bad consequences if they accuse the wrong person. Wrongful accusations can ruin peoples lives, and in this case possibly get somebody killed or tortured. If they get the wrong person I hope they're prepared for big lawsuits.

It was almost established beyond doubt that the Czech guy Tomas was the one who stole USD 100 million worth of BTCs. The evidence was so overwhelming. I think the online tracking process is over and the drug vendors are planning their physical actions.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 07, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

It seems that the guys in reddit have close the tracking. A message was posted in r/SheepMarketplace saying "Any posts containing personal information of any kind will be immediately removed". Some of the earlier posts were deleted. Shocked

This kind of vigilante justice can have very bad consequences if they accuse the wrong person. Wrongful accusations can ruin peoples lives, and in this case possibly get somebody killed or tortured. If they get the wrong person I hope they're prepared for big lawsuits.

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It seems that the guys in reddit have close the tracking. A message was posted in r/SheepMarketplace saying "Any posts containing personal information of any kind will be immediately removed". Some of the earlier posts were deleted. Shocked

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Quote from: beetcoin on December 06, 2013, 05:20:51 AM

Quote from: nanobtc on December 05, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

Good point. Allying with larger criminal organizations could save his life, if he could trust them. They have many institutions in place to move money already, for generations. I was just initially considering him trying to get away with it, on his own.

As far as returning them, I don't know how good of a bookkeeper he would be, if you were planning on taking the money and run.

but i wonder if the criminal orgs would just torture him until he handed over ALL of his bitcoins. why not, anyways? he's a wanted man, by both governments and druggies.

I would've thought any decent yet unscrupulous criminal enterprise would just lure him into a false sense of security by offering him protection, then as soon as he gives up some of his wealth, take it all. They could quite easily torture the rest out of him, kill him, then he truly will have disappeared and so will they. He can't trust any one and he's gonna be looking over his back for his entire life, and it's his own fault for being greedy.

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Quote from: nanobtc on December 05, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

Good point. Allying with larger criminal organizations could save his life, if he could trust them. They have many institutions in place to move money already, for generations. I was just initially considering him trying to get away with it, on his own.

As far as returning them, I don't know how good of a bookkeeper he would be, if you were planning on taking the money and run.

but i wonder if the criminal orgs would just torture him until he handed over ALL of his bitcoins. why not, anyways? he's a wanted man, by both governments and druggies.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 12:30:32 PM

And they'll probably just whack him haha. He can't trust anyone; not even his GF. If I was him I'd give 99% of em back and do my best to disappear completely off the grid. I'm talking log cabin in the middle of the woods off the grid.

TOR network guarantees the maximum amount of anonymity possible. Even then these people could trace him (I don't think that he really expected that). So no use in fleeing to log cabins. As long as he lives in this planet, these people will get him. Now, it is only a matter of days.

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Good point. Allying with larger criminal organizations could save his life, if he could trust them. They have many institutions in place to move money already, for generations. I was just initially considering him trying to get away with it, on his own.

As far as returning them, I don't know how good of a bookkeeper he would be, if you were planning on taking the money and run.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 05, 2013, 12:23:40 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 12:08:32 PM

Could he not just return them? It's an interesting story to follow for sure. All I know is this guy isn't ever going to be able to spend many of the coins at all.

No. He is too greedy for that.

Right now he will be probably thinking about allying with the Cosa Nostra or the 'Ndrangheta. He will give them 50% of the coins (worth somewhere around 50 million USD) in return for his LIFE.

And they'll probably just whack him haha. He can't trust anyone; not even his GF. If I was him I'd give 99% of em back and do my best to disappear completely off the grid. I'm talking log cabin in the middle of the woods off the grid.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 12:08:32 PM

Could he not just return them? It's an interesting story to follow for sure. All I know is this guy isn't ever going to be able to spend many of the coins at all.

No. He is too greedy for that.

Right now he will be probably thinking about allying with the Cosa Nostra or the 'Ndrangheta. He will give them 50% of the coins (worth somewhere around 50 million USD) in return for his LIFE.

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Quote from: nanobtc on December 05, 2013, 12:06:06 PM

The reddit postings answer most of these questions. The guy is pretty much screwed. He has been tumbling, but best bet would be to mix a very small amount of the coins through some alts, get enough cash to live quietly for a few years, and leave the bulk of the coins alone. He would be better off to give them away, and hope that he can live.

He's screwed because by now there is probably no way the btc could be returned. He's screwed because he has presumably pissed off some people that won't hesitate to interrogate him slowly. Since this sum is an aggregate of many people, even if someone physically catches up with him and beats the private keys out of him, that next party will be the target.

Unless he can quietly disappear, he will be found in a ditch eventually.

Could he not just return them? It's an interesting story to follow for sure. All I know is this guy isn't ever going to be able to spend many of the coins at all.

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The reddit postings answer most of these questions. The guy is pretty much screwed. He has been tumbling, but best bet would be to mix a very small amount of the coins through some alts, get enough cash to live quietly for a few years, and leave the bulk of the coins alone. He would be better off to give them away, and hope that he can live.

He's screwed because by now there is probably no way the btc could be returned. He's screwed because he has presumably pissed off some people that won't hesitate to interrogate him slowly. Since this sum is an aggregate of many people, even if someone physically catches up with him and beats the private keys out of him, that next party will be the target.

Unless he can quietly disappear, he will be found in a ditch eventually.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 05, 2013, 11:25:04 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 11:15:49 AM

I wonder what this kind of crime falls under legally? I mean, he stole dirty coins from a blackmarket site. Are the police after him?

Well... the police can investigate only if someone makes a complaint... right? And the complainant has to be a Czech citizen as well.

The site was illegal... who is going to file the complaint?

I don't know if the website is illegal per se, but 99% of the stuff it sells is haha. Maybe somebody who just used it to buy kinder eggs or alpaca socks could file a complaint.

I wonder if it was this guys intent to steal coins all along, or did the power/greed just corrupt him? At least owners of other sites will probably think twice about stealing now.

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He can get bitcoins out, but he has to do it just a few at a time.

Send ten coins into a mixer, let them get mixed up with a hundred other coins, get ten coins out.... Wait a while for the mixer to give away all of your ten coins to some other reprobates, send them another ten.....

Or he could gamble in small quantities on SatoshiDice; He'd be swapping the stolen bitcoins for other bitcoins whenever he won, and getting rid of them to other people whenever he lost. By the time he cycles all the money through SatoshiDice a few times it gets pretty untraceable, and SatoshiDice gets maybe 8% of it.

But this only works for getting a few coins at a time laundered, so it could take a long time.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 03:34:54 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 05, 2013, 03:19:31 AM

Quote from: beetcoin on December 05, 2013, 03:11:22 AM

they both deleted their accounts.. too much heat. they are probably figuring out where to run to now Cheesy

then again, if it were me and i was truly innocent, i'd still be scared as fuck.

The evidence against him is overwhelming:

1. He owns the hosting service for the sheepmarketplace.com VPS server

2. He was the earliest known promoter of SMP (1 February 2013), and recommened SMP & BMR over Silk Road (11 April 2013)

3. He is a C++ QT Nette Framework Czech developer who runs Ubuntu, exactly like the SMP developer

4. He has complained about the memory demand of `bitcoind` on a VPS server, and discussed the difficulties of functionality like email from hidden services

5. Tomas or his girlfriend are active users of Tor, as evidenced by screenshots of their computer

6. It’s not clear what Tomas’s current job is, but it is clear that as of October, he was working on an e-commerce site which was having problems with buggy accounting of deposits

7. He posted a .htaccess file which has the same (buggy) functionality as that of SMP

8. He is an accused Bitcoin scammer

Oh haha. So the guy who stole the money actually runs/owns Sheep?

It's always the last person you'd ever expect... or in this case the first..

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 05, 2013, 11:15:49 AM

I wonder what this kind of crime falls under legally? I mean, he stole dirty coins from a blackmarket site. Are the police after him?

Well... the police can investigate only if someone makes a complaint... right? And the complainant has to be a Czech citizen as well.

The site was illegal... who is going to file the complaint?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 05, 2013, 11:09:36 AM

Quote from: ajax3592 on December 05, 2013, 09:32:03 AM

Quote from: beetcoin on December 05, 2013, 02:55:04 AM

i posted it a few days ago in a different thread.. his name was tomas something, and he had a picture of himself grabbing a girl's tit. for your information, his gf had a pretty nice rack Cheesy

Detective AJAX reporting, did you mean this guy?
The one on the left has a bigger rack IMO Grin

Good job Ajax!

Now things are clearer... He probably stole those coins to get himself a breast reduction surgery. Grin

Well he's got the money for it now. He's gonna have to change his appearance or disappear completely. Fatty better get running.

I wonder what this kind of crime falls under legally? I mean, he stole dirty coins from a blackmarket site. Are the police after him?

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