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Topic: Water on Mars? Bleh. Astronomers may have found giant alien 'megastructures' (Read 2703 times)

legendary
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There are aliens out there, just as there are on Earth.... but they are much smaller than we think. Please stop dreaming in cloud cuckoo land and get back to the real world. Doing our bit for the country is much more important than gazing into space blankly.


You never know when they will crash in on you unexpectedly. Another advantage of space exploration is that you get to mine metals in their pure form from those asteroids floating aimlessly about.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/asteroid-mining-venture-backed-by-james-cameron-google-ceo-larry-page/



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There are aliens out there, just as there are on Earth.... but they are much smaller than we think. Please stop dreaming in cloud cuckoo land and get back to the real world. Doing our bit for the country is much more important than gazing into space blankly.


You never know when they will crash in on you unexpectedly. Another advantage of space exploration is that you get to mine metals in their pure form from those asteroids floating aimlessly about.
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Hahaha! That's the bomb! Thanks! You made my day!
legendary
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Water on Mars? Bleh. Call me when they discover beer on Mars. Or turn that water into wine - either one will do.




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Water on Mars? Bleh. Call me when they discover beer on Mars. Or turn that water into wine - either one will do.
legendary
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Those are alien prices. Not normal human, earth-like prices. That's why you're confused. It'll pass.


Beer prices are relative in the grand scheme of the event horizon, when you take the time to think about it for a second. The memory of the night becomes a black hole when you wake up the next morning anyway...

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Those are alien prices. Not normal human, earth-like prices. That's why you're confused. It'll pass.
legendary
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We are like primitives compared to this advance aliens who may have evolve and build civilization million years ahead of us.

I doubt there are any civilizations that are millions of years ahead of us.  

They would eventually destroy themselves.  How would they get past AI?
All AI built must have a weakness.

Doesn't matter what, could be beer.


Even with quantum neural networks, built from artificially grown diamonds ...?


Yeah, maybe...








Well of course... since the only practical AI that is around is built by God... namely people.

But look at those prices. No wonder I don't drink.

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legendary
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We are like primitives compared to this advance aliens who may have evolve and build civilization million years ahead of us.

I doubt there are any civilizations that are millions of years ahead of us. 

They would eventually destroy themselves.  How would they get past AI?
All AI built must have a weakness.

Doesn't matter what, could be beer.


Even with quantum neural networks, built from artificially grown diamonds ...?


Yeah, maybe...






legendary
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We are like primitives compared to this advance aliens who may have evolve and build civilization million years ahead of us.

I doubt there are any civilizations that are millions of years ahead of us. 

They would eventually destroy themselves.  How would they get past AI?
All AI built must have a weakness.

Doesn't matter what, could be beer.
legendary
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The so-called rivers on Mars, might resemble rivers. They might have some similarity to water flowing. But they have many differences as well. The thing that the Martian rivers match perfectly is, electric plasma arc channels.

NASA isn't telling us the truth. Why? Who knows. Perhaps it has to do with all the scientific theories about Mars that might go down the drain. Perhaps NASA doesn't want people to even start thinking in the direction of an electric cosmos for the same reason extended to astronomy physics in general - http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

But here is a video that shows clearly that the rivers on Mars were created by electric arc action caused by static electricity dissipation in a near-planet fly-by - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y.

There are other videos that express the same.

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Oh, Btw, the earth is similar in some geology to Mars. For example, what would the Grand Canyon look like if there had been no erosion? Here is a video that suggests that it would look like an electric arc channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AxjrRl9hAA

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legendary
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The so-called rivers on Mars, might resemble rivers. They might have some similarity to water flowing. But they have many differences as well. The thing that the Martian rivers match perfectly is, electric plasma arc channels.

NASA isn't telling us the truth. Why? Who knows. Perhaps it has to do with all the scientific theories about Mars that might go down the drain. Perhaps NASA doesn't want people to even start thinking in the direction of an electric cosmos for the same reason extended to astronomy physics in general - http://electric-cosmos.org/indexOLD.htm.

But here is a video that shows clearly that the rivers on Mars were created by electric arc action caused by static electricity dissipation in a near-planet fly-by - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y.

There are other videos that express the same.

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legendary
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That bizarre-looking star just got a lot weirder — and yes, it could be aliens







Three months ago, news broke that a giant "alien megastructure" could exist around a bizarre-looking star 1,500 light-years away.

While the prospect of aliens was first launched by Penn State astronomer Jason Wright, almost everyone in the astronomy community agreed that the chances that this was the case were "very low."

Now, the latest investigations into this strange star by Louisiana State University astronomer Bradley Schaefer have reignited the alien theory, New Scientist reported.

What makes this star, KIC8462852, so bizarre is the drastic changes in light we see from it over time. Many stars experience temporary fluctuations in brightness, increasing and decreasing in luminosity over time, but KIC8462852's changes are severe by comparison.

Between 2009 and 2013, astronomers using the Kepler space telescope discovered that it would sometimes lose up to 20% of its brightness. What's more, the changes didn't follow any obvious pattern.

That would suggest something gigantic must be blocking the light at random times, meaning that it couldn't be a planet or other regular orbiting object because that would generate a distinct pattern of dimming light. It must be something that changes shape over time, thereby blocking different levels of light at random intervals.

Surprise: It's probably not comets

An alien megastructure, called a Dyson swarm, was suggested as one explanation for what scientists have observed, but the most likely reason astronomers came up with was comets — a giant family of them.

But Shaefer says not so fast.

"The comet-family idea was reasonably put forth as the best of the proposals, even while acknowledging that they all were a poor lot," Schaefer told New Scientist. "But now we have a refutation of the idea, and indeed, of all published ideas."

To make his discovery, Schaefer had to dig deep down into the astronomy archives at Harvard. It turns out, astronomers have data on KIC8462852 dating back as far as 1890.

By analyzing over 1,200 measurements of this star's brightness taken from 1890 through 1989, Schaefer found that the irregular dimming of KIC8462852 has been going on for over 100 years. Schaefer published his findings in the online preprint server arXiv.org.

What's more, he explains in his paper that this "century-long dimming trend requires an estimated 648,000 giant comets (each with 200 km diameter) all orchestrated to pass in front of the star within the last century," which he said is "completely implausible."

So what is it?

By killing the comet theory, Schaefer has brought us one step closer to finding out what is really happening around KIC8462852.

At the same time, he's also reignited the possibility that the source could be an alien megastructure that an advanced alien civilization has been slowly building over time. One thing's certain for Schaefer: The bizarre dimmings are probably caused by a single, physical mechanism that's undergoing some type of ongoing change.

"The century-long dimming and the day-long dips are both just extreme ends of a spectrum of timescales for unique dimming events, so by Ockham's Razor, all this is produced by one physical mechanism," Shaefer said in his paper. "This one mechanism does not appear as any isolated catastrophic event in the last century, but rather must be some ongoing process with continuous effects."

Schaefer isn't the only one interested in learning more about KIC8462852. Late last year, astronomer Doug Vakoch and his team at the new organization called SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) International — not to be confused with the SETI Institute — went hunting for aliens around KIC8462852.

They searched for signals that an alien civilization might be beaming toward Earth either in radio or visible wavelengths, but ultimately they came up empty handed. So, if it is aliens, then they're being awfully quiet.


http://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-prove-comets-cant-explain-alien-megastructure-2016-1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fto2HTtnz6g
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legendary
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Why they never contacted us?
There has already been contact; I posted about it here in this thread. The CONTACT newspaper and Phoenix Journals are the record of that contact.

4. They see us like ants not worthy of contacting.
Since the record of the contact already exists, it is up to you to decide to read it; only you can choose if you think it is worth your time to "reach out and touch someone"--LIKE GOD.

#4, its very possible they are merely observing us for now, judging weather we are worth contacting, or may be a future threat to their civilization.

The planet has already received the contact and guidance that was sought, just as promised.

Please, read these messages and discern the validity of the information for yourself.

The biggest problem with your idea of contact is, nobody can verify for a fact that any particular place is where the contact originated. Somebody might say that there is contact, somebody might say he/she received contact by automatic writing, somebody might say he she received contact while in a trance, but there isn't any verification.

Believe it if you want, but there isn't any independent verification of it. None of the scientific methods in existence can verify it. Chance are you or any of your cronies wouldn't get on the stand in a court of law and verify it under oath or affirmation.

In other words, even if it is true, nobody knows for sure.

As far as timing about the contact, it was coincidental. Give a monkey a typewriter, he's going to type a word sometime.

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... Have some faith. Believe!
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I am like that at times, as well. Sometimes people can't tell when I am being sarcastic and when I am not.

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legendary
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Why they never contacted us?
There has already been contact; I posted about it here in this thread. The CONTACT newspaper and Phoenix Journals are the record of that contact.

4. They see us like ants not worthy of contacting.
Since the record of the contact already exists, it is up to you to decide to read it; only you can choose if you think it is worth your time to "reach out and touch someone"--LIKE GOD.

#4, its very possible they are merely observing us for now, judging weather we are worth contacting, or may be a future threat to their civilization.

The planet has already received the contact and guidance that was sought, just as promised.

Please, read these messages and discern the validity of the information for yourself.

The biggest problem with your idea of contact is, nobody can verify for a fact that any particular place is where the contact originated. Somebody might say that there is contact, somebody might say he/she received contact by automatic writing, somebody might say he she received contact while in a trance, but there isn't any verification.

Believe it if you want, but there isn't any independent verification of it. None of the scientific methods in existence can verify it. Chance are you or any of your cronies wouldn't get on the stand in a court of law and verify it under oath or affirmation.

In other words, even if it is true, nobody knows for sure.

As far as timing about the contact, it was coincidental. Give a monkey a typewriter, he's going to type a word sometime.

Smiley


... Have some faith. Believe!
 Smiley Wink

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Why they never contacted us?
There has already been contact; I posted about it here in this thread. The CONTACT newspaper and Phoenix Journals are the record of that contact.

4. They see us like ants not worthy of contacting.
Since the record of the contact already exists, it is up to you to decide to read it; only you can choose if you think it is worth your time to "reach out and touch someone"--LIKE GOD.

#4, its very possible they are merely observing us for now, judging weather we are worth contacting, or may be a future threat to their civilization.

The planet has already received the contact and guidance that was sought, just as promised.

Please, read these messages and discern the validity of the information for yourself.

The biggest problem with your idea of contact is, nobody can verify for a fact that any particular place is where the contact originated. Somebody might say that there is contact, somebody might say he/she received contact by automatic writing, somebody might say he she received contact while in a trance, but there isn't any verification.

Believe it if you want, but there isn't any independent verification of it. None of the scientific methods in existence can verify it. Chance are you or any of your cronies wouldn't get on the stand in a court of law and verify it under oath or affirmation.

In other words, even if it is true, nobody knows for sure.

As far as timing about the contact, it was coincidental. Give a monkey a typewriter, he's going to type a word sometime.

Smiley
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Why they never contacted us?
There has already been contact; I posted about it here in this thread. The CONTACT newspaper and Phoenix Journals are the record of that contact.

4. They see us like ants not worthy of contacting.
Since the record of the contact already exists, it is up to you to decide to read it; only you can choose if you think it is worth your time to "reach out and touch someone"--LIKE GOD.

#4, its very possible they are merely observing us for now, judging weather we are worth contacting, or may be a future threat to their civilization.

The planet has already received the contact and guidance that was sought, just as promised.

Please, read these messages and discern the validity of the information for yourself.
legendary
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We are like primitives compared to this advance aliens who may have evolve and build civilization million years ahead of us.

I doubt there are any civilizations that are millions of years ahead of us.  

They would eventually destroy themselves.  How would they get past AI?
survival may be possible in a hivemind sort of civilization where free will doesnt exist, but rather the will of a central few. but i doubt it as well, if any civilization out there existed that were millions of years ahead of ours, they wouldve likely contacted us or tried (and succeeded) to exterminate us.


We would never know for sure. But what makes us so special out of 1 trillion planets in milky way galaxy alone. This is not include the other 100 billion galaxies.

Why they never contacted us?
1. The could be very far from us.
2. We don't know if they tried contacting us before. We just delevelop the capacity to read signals in just a century ago. This is like a pico second time lapse in the universe.
3. They  already controlling us without us knowing it.
4. They us like ants not worth of contacting.
for number 1, assuming the hypothetical civilization is indeed millions of years ahead of ours, i wouldnt expect distance to be an issue, assuming sci-fi style space travel was possible in this universe. as for number 1, if the civilization was indeed that advanced, contacting us shouldnt be a problem either with their vastly superior technology. nothing to say for statement 3, but for #4, its very possible they are merely observing us for now, judging weather we are worth contacting, or may be a future threat to their civilization.

If Einstein is right that are no faster than light. The distance of this civilization is 1500 light years away. If they point their instruments now to our Solar System what they see is what happen 1500 years ago. We are still not emiting radio signals yet. No rockets, spaceship or satelites floating in space. We are still fighting with swords.  

If they are near level 2 civilization they are still begining exploring the other solar systems near them.

I assume life in the universe is common. Why they go to earth if there are other nearer million planets available.  

If they visit us and they insist they don't wan't to be seen. I'm sure they would be invisible to us. Their spaceship would be superstealthy and has cloaking device.

The only purpose for capturing a significant part of the energy of a start would be some thing having to do with travel, or communication, across stellar sized distances.

There is nothing having to do with materials that can use such amounts of energy.  No industrial processes.
legendary
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In holiday we trust
Maybe its some weird time loop thing where we are watching ourselves landing on Mars in the future and seeing what is left of our civilization.
legendary
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/start speculation
The "structures" are debris from a former planet, where the Rebel Alliance had it's base, which planet was recently blown up by the Death Star.
/ end speculation
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