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CryptoMrM

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Quote from: Netnox on May 13, 2016, 05:42:34 AM

Quote from: CryptoMrM on May 13, 2016, 04:04:29 AM

I'm in favour of a buy wall however I think it should be at 20% below the end price.

20% being the bonus received by day 1 investors.

Why? The devs don't owe you anything, imo there shouldn't be a buy wall at all.

I don't like using the word 'owe' as it's quite harsh and technical. Whilst they don't 'owe' us anything technically (as the crowdfunding is pegged as a donation for legal reasons), it's quite clear that the devs are acting in good faith to create a positive return on investment. Any normal investment would consider the consensus of it's investors in making key decisions so yes they do informally 'owe' us something.

Quote from: Netnox on May 13, 2016, 05:42:34 AM

If they put a buy wall at the ico price then there is a high chance the price stays low around ico price which is extremely undervalued anyway.

They should instead use the funds to bring in some good news affecting the price positively.

What economic theory is that based off? Seems like wild speculation to me.

I'm not saying they shouldn't use the majority of the funds for development, just set aside say 10-20% for a buy wall under ICO price. Not only will this help bolster the price but also add stability, liquidity and credibility. It also means short sellers will be selling their WAVES back to the organisation for much less and we (the WAVES project) gain more.

Unrelated note: this post is #6666

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Quote from: ArafaA on May 13, 2016, 06:44:47 AM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 06:32:02 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

You need to go to https://ico.wavesplatform.com/ put your email in proper field. Then you will be able to login and you will see your deposit address.

You won`t know your exact Waves final balnce until the ICO ends.

"85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds."

The more investors are coming, the more your balance decreases but price of Waves is growing at the same time.

i invested a total of 0.024 (small amount) in the first day bonus my balance of waves was 400+ waves unbelievable now my balance decrease to 240 waves that the half of the first amount received .
I hope at the end of the ico my waves remains above 200 waves.

Does not matter how much waves you have, because its value is rising in line with the decrease.

At the end you will hold the same value.

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 06:32:02 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

You need to go to https://ico.wavesplatform.com/ put your email in proper field. Then you will be able to login and you will see your deposit address.

You won`t know your exact Waves final balnce until the ICO ends.

"85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds."

The more investors are coming, the more your balance decreases but price of Waves is growing at the same time.

i invested a total of 0.024 (small amount) in the first day bonus my balance of waves was 400+ waves unbelievable now my balance decrease to 240 waves that the half of the first amount received .
I hope at the end of the ico my waves remains above 200 waves.

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Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:38:35 AM

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Does this mean the remaining balance in my wallet at the end of ICO is what i will have?

Yes, once the funding ends, the assets are distributed to all who participated. Your balance is what gets paid to you.

Edit: Also check this google doc that user bobo81 has made, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-G1LMDjAX9roVJDuhVewGG_pykSLIprWAElwO-6TcRA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
Here you see the amount invested and what each wave token is currently valued. You see that for every BTC invested, the amount of wave tokens for every user decreases, but their value goes up.

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Quote from: BoldNinja on May 13, 2016, 06:35:15 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

It works like this 85 million WAVES will be distributed to those that buy in with BTC. As this is limited supply of 85m each investment increase value of each WAVE thus decresing number of WAVE tokens in your wallet.

Does this mean the remaining balance in my wallet at the end of ICO is what i will have?

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Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

It works like this 85 million WAVES will be distributed to those that buy in with BTC. As this is limited supply of 85m each investment increase value of each WAVE thus decresing number of WAVE tokens in your wallet.

mms2209

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 06:32:02 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

You need to go to https://ico.wavesplatform.com/ put your email in proper field. Then you will be able to login and you will see your deposit address.

You won`t know your exact Waves final balnce until the ICO ends.

"85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds."

The more investors are coming, the more your balance decreases but price of Waves is growing at the same time.

Thanks mate. I just invested.

mxxxxxx

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Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

You need to go to https://ico.wavesplatform.com/ put your email in proper field. Then you will be able to login and you will see your deposit address.

You won`t know your exact Waves final balnce until the ICO ends.

"85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds."

The more investors are coming, the more your balance decreases but price of Waves is growing at the same time.

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 04:49:37 AM

Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 13, 2016, 04:31:55 AM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 01:05:52 AM

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Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 12, 2016, 04:08:10 PM

what are the consequences of not swapping NXT based assets over to waves? What is the significance of 1st May too? I'm a bit confused as to what I need to do with my coinomat & coinomat1 assets

You can swap assets that you had before the May, 1.

Final day to make swaps is May, 15.

Assets will continue as earlier just with lower supply and next they will migrate to Waves blockchain https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/coinomat-assets/

Thanks, but I still don't understand why there is a deadline of May 15th for the swap. If I don't swap now it sounds like the assets MUST be migrated to WAVES later on anyway, so why have an 'optional' swap now? It sounds like more work for WAVES team. Are dividends still being paid on NXT & WAVES as before, and if so, in what token? Please explain things as it's still very unclear what the implications are for the 15 May deadline. When will the non-voluntary swap happen? If the time period between May 15 and the migration is small it probably doesn't matter, but if it's long and dividends are paid in different tokens the implications could be huge.

I honestly don't feel good about this swap

It is just additional opportunity during the ICO, you can swap coinomat assets for Waves if you bought/had them before the 1st May. Final date to make it happen is 15th.
Assets will continue next the same like before just with lower supply. When Waves platform is operational those assets will migrate to it. Dividends from assets on the Waves blockchain won`t be paid in NXT for sure. You can stay with your assets on NXT blockchain also, your decision.

OK, so the swap now (i.e before May 15th) would convert those assets (e.g. coinomat1 asset on NXT AE) into WAVES (the token being sold in the ico), NOT equivalent assets on the WAVES platform? I want to keep all my coinomat assets, so a swap now would convert them into WAVES, right, and that's not what I want, So I wait now, and later my NXT.coinomat1 asset will be converted 1:1 into WAVES.coinomat1, right?

Sorry, but I just want to be certain.

Exactly. So you just hold your assets like before and enjoy bigger dividends with lower supply already and next you will be able to migrate with them to the Waves platform.

Ok, thanks, I think I understand the situation now.

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Quote from: Pietpiraat on May 13, 2016, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

First time i am investing in ICO. Can you please explain how it works. Also how do i know how much waves i will receive? Thanks

mxxxxxx

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Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

All Waves balances will be changing in your accounts up to the last day of the ICO while new investors are coming. 85 million tokens will be distributed in lCO procedure to participating users based on their contribution in the total amount of the raised funds.

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Quote from: mms2209 on May 13, 2016, 06:06:38 AM

I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

As long the ico runs and people invest more your waves amount will drop untill the end of the ICO which will be in 19 days and 52 minutes from now.

mms2209

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I See my waves balance keeps on going down on the Waves platform. Is that normal?

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Quote from: CryptoMrM on May 13, 2016, 04:04:29 AM

I'm in favour of a buy wall however I think it should be at 20% below the end price.

20% being the bonus received by day 1 investors.

Why? The devs don't owe you anything, imo there shouldn't be a buy wall at all. If they put a buy wall at the ico price then there is a high chance the price stays low around ico price which is extremely undervalued anyway. They should instead use the funds to bring in some good news affecting the price positively.

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Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 13, 2016, 04:31:55 AM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 01:05:52 AM

Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 12, 2016, 07:03:43 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 12, 2016, 05:02:17 PM

Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 12, 2016, 04:08:10 PM

what are the consequences of not swapping NXT based assets over to waves? What is the significance of 1st May too? I'm a bit confused as to what I need to do with my coinomat & coinomat1 assets

You can swap assets that you had before the May, 1.

Final day to make swaps is May, 15.

Assets will continue as earlier just with lower supply and next they will migrate to Waves blockchain https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/coinomat-assets/

Thanks, but I still don't understand why there is a deadline of May 15th for the swap. If I don't swap now it sounds like the assets MUST be migrated to WAVES later on anyway, so why have an 'optional' swap now? It sounds like more work for WAVES team. Are dividends still being paid on NXT & WAVES as before, and if so, in what token? Please explain things as it's still very unclear what the implications are for the 15 May deadline. When will the non-voluntary swap happen? If the time period between May 15 and the migration is small it probably doesn't matter, but if it's long and dividends are paid in different tokens the implications could be huge.

I honestly don't feel good about this swap

It is just additional opportunity during the ICO, you can swap coinomat assets for Waves if you bought/had them before the 1st May. Final date to make it happen is 15th.
Assets will continue next the same like before just with lower supply. When Waves platform is operational those assets will migrate to it. Dividends from assets on the Waves blockchain won`t be paid in NXT for sure. You can stay with your assets on NXT blockchain also, your decision.

OK, so the swap now (i.e before May 15th) would convert those assets (e.g. coinomat1 asset on NXT AE) into WAVES (the token being sold in the ico), NOT equivalent assets on the WAVES platform? I want to keep all my coinomat assets, so a swap now would convert them into WAVES, right, and that's not what I want, So I wait now, and later my NXT.coinomat1 asset will be converted 1:1 into WAVES.coinomat1, right?

Sorry, but I just want to be certain.

Exactly. So you just hold your assets like before and enjoy bigger dividends with lower supply already and next you will be able to migrate with them to the Waves platform.

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 13, 2016, 01:05:52 AM

Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 12, 2016, 07:03:43 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 12, 2016, 05:02:17 PM

Quote from: Warren.Buffet on May 12, 2016, 04:08:10 PM

what are the consequences of not swapping NXT based assets over to waves? What is the significance of 1st May too? I'm a bit confused as to what I need to do with my coinomat & coinomat1 assets

You can swap assets that you had before the May, 1.

Final day to make swaps is May, 15.

Assets will continue as earlier just with lower supply and next they will migrate to Waves blockchain https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/coinomat-assets/

Thanks, but I still don't understand why there is a deadline of May 15th for the swap. If I don't swap now it sounds like the assets MUST be migrated to WAVES later on anyway, so why have an 'optional' swap now? It sounds like more work for WAVES team. Are dividends still being paid on NXT & WAVES as before, and if so, in what token? Please explain things as it's still very unclear what the implications are for the 15 May deadline. When will the non-voluntary swap happen? If the time period between May 15 and the migration is small it probably doesn't matter, but if it's long and dividends are paid in different tokens the implications could be huge.

I honestly don't feel good about this swap

It is just additional opportunity during the ICO, you can swap coinomat assets for Waves if you bought/had them before the 1st May. Final date to make it happen is 15th.
Assets will continue next the same like before just with lower supply. When Waves platform is operational those assets will migrate to it. Dividends from assets on the Waves blockchain won`t be paid in NXT for sure. You can stay with your assets on NXT blockchain also, your decision.

OK, so the swap now (i.e before May 15th) would convert those assets (e.g. coinomat1 asset on NXT AE) into WAVES (the token being sold in the ico), NOT equivalent assets on the WAVES platform? I want to keep all my coinomat assets, so a swap now would convert them into WAVES, right, and that's not what I want, So I wait now, and later my NXT.coinomat1 asset will be converted 1:1 into WAVES.coinomat1, right?

Sorry, but I just want to be certain.

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Quote from: Transpotime21Bus on May 13, 2016, 04:01:07 AM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 12, 2016, 02:44:29 AM

Quote from: Transpotime21Bus on May 12, 2016, 02:43:14 AM

Will we be able to trade CORE asset in the WAVES plataform?

CORE and CORE Media, yes.

I have a few questions to make as follow:

1) Will you be able to trade CORE for CORE Media and CORE for BTC?

2) I know the ICO ends 31st May, How long after that will we be able to trade?

3) To be able to withraw do you have to be verified and will you be able to change your CORE directly to $, Euros and £?

4) if You can do point 3, Will you be able to withraw your Euros, £ into our bank account from the WAVE plataform?

5) Will hackers be able to hack WAVE plataform?

6) Can we use WAVE plataform to store our ALT coins?

Thanks

i understand its for traders as well so maybe we can use the waves platform to store alts but i would love to know the answer of these questions from them.

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Quote from: Transpotime21Bus on May 13, 2016, 04:01:07 AM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on May 12, 2016, 02:44:29 AM

Quote from: Transpotime21Bus on May 12, 2016, 02:43:14 AM

Will we be able to trade CORE asset in the WAVES plataform?

CORE and CORE Media, yes.

I have a few questions to make as follow:

1) Will you be able to trade CORE for CORE Media and CORE for BTC?

2) I know the ICO ends 31st May, How long after that will we be able to trade?

3) To be able to withraw do you have to be verified and will you be able to change your CORE directly to $, Euros and £?

4) if You can do point 3, Will you be able to withraw your Euros, £ into our bank account from the WAVE plataform?

5) Will hackers be able to hack WAVE plataform?

6) Can we use WAVE plataform to store our ALT coins?

Thanks

1. Yes and with fiat tokens and maybe some other tokens if there is need for this.

2. Waves platform launch with main features - summer 2016

3/4. To widthdraw/deposit fiat you need to do KYC on fiat gateway. To trade only fiat tokens with other supported tokens and currencies nope.

5. Waves will have own decentralized exchange. You will be the only one controlling your funds with your client.

6. Supported currencies will be presented there as tokens and you will be able to deposit/withdraw currencies to/from your standard wallets.

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