Topic: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. - page 760. (Read 2389197 times)

LOL with someone caring to post something as such, usually it means a NICE price rise (pump?) will come soon, my guess is Sept.

CryptoMrM isn't a troll. There is too much truth in his post, unfortunately.

People with over 1000 btc, are the first ones to care about .

To community FUDders: Waves is cheap enough right now, isn't it? It's clear your FUD isn't making it cheaper, so stop wasting your time and go buy that less than 30K satoshi waves (courtesy of big whales who keep its price down to accumulate before its big go). It may be your last days of opportunity to buy it cheap, so use it.

I wish all of you will have that [God knows what number should be put here]X profit you love so much soon.  

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To waves team: Guys please say thing X is gonna be done in date Y, only when you're sure it will happen. I believe it's your only mistake, because if it's not done on time it causes uncertainty and distrust in people. Full nodes need more time? Fine by me and many other people who care about a better product more than anything else. But if you hadn't said it will be done in July it would have been fine by many other people too.  

Best of luck to you and waves.

I'm only going to post this once. I suggest everyone read it who is involved or thinking to be involved in WAVES.


I'm so happy I'm out of this project. The main issue issue for me here is the team. They raised a great amount of money and still had time to enter this market. However time is now running out and competitors are moving further away e.g. NEM/Ripple/Stratis (financial remittance) & HEAT/NXT/Stratis (Decentralised Exchange and Scalability approach) *also now AntShares seems to have similar ambitions and funding.

I sold all my WAVES before the exchange launch for an average of 0.00065 after following the slack everyday and realising that the team's morals/business principles are completely against what I would expect.

Firstly Sasha promised that it would be listed on major exchanges, maybe a silly promise to make but it was assumed that in making it he had received confirmation from these exchanges as he had also said he had been communicating with them. He mentioned these exchanges also included foreign (CNY) ones.

Secondly was the shabby initial release. Not only was this significantly late but it was also indicated in the original ico that the aim would be to set up an exchange straight after to enable trading (this clearly went out the window). When they finally got round to distributing the funds they did them in batches over a couple of days. This meant that some people were given an unfair advantage to get the best otc prices. I was fortunate to be one of them and traded some WAVES at YoBit for over 0.001 each. You can imagine how annoyed I would have been if I wasn't in those batches.

Next comes the exchange listing. Sasha has assured me in a Slack DM there would be significant buy support from the WAVES team. There was a rumour of a 500 BTC wall but I'm not sure on this (also remember the project raised over 20k BTC). In addition the buy support has been as weak as ~70 BTC to half ico price at times.

Furthermore Sasha lied to me when I asked about the Bittrex listing saying he had been communicating with them. After he told me this I went to the Bittrex Slack and was told they had received no communication from the WAVES team. The reason I was given by the WAVES team when I brought this up was that they had contacted them but not received a reply yet. Perhaps Sasha misspoke, you can be the judge.

The delays have also been a joke. I don't follow developments anymore but I believe the full node still hasn't been released despite original release planned near after distribution! This also puts their entire roadmap completely back and the developments planned for July have already been missed.

Sasha's professionality has also come into question, with his rants on Twitter and commentary of issues outside of WAVES. Some have speculated that in openly slating Poloniex that this has damaged WAVES chances of being listed. Likewise if Poloniex doesn't list after node release the next development down the line is the 'decentralised' asset exchange which isn't anything particularly unique with NXT/NEM/Counterparty/HEAT and others already involved. Also Sasha's 'solution' to scaling a decentralised exchange is to make it centralised by having centralised order matching (genius that). I said to someone it's the same as me depositing to an exchange, trading and withdrawing straight away *(I understand some people still think it may work or is innovative enough, we will have to see).

With regards to the price right now there would also appear to be a massive bagholder effort by existing holders to stop the price from slipping or some opinion that it's a good buy right now. I am a member of a few very active trading Slacks and I see almost daily comments like "Waves is cheap, time to buy more" whilst they're completely saturated with it. It would seem an all-in or nothing scenario. Similarly a few days ago when I wrote about WAVES there was over 40 people just on Bittrex with over 100k WAVES. At that level of distribution and a liquidity situation like it is now, it could be a recipe for disaster (as we've seen some pretty steep crashes already).

There is also a rumour that WAVES are burning through their funds quickly. Indeed you can see over half the BTC has been moved from the Blockchain escrow address into various different accounts. Whether this is a good/bad thing I'll leave up to you. They clearly have a good stash of money and I would normally say spend it in order to bring out quality developments ahead of time with the extra resources. However that clearly isn't happening at the moment. I'd also like to say that in the interviews during the ico Sasha clearly says that he will be liquidating Bitcoin in stages in order to avoid BTC volatility. Well it would appear from my inspection that the movement of Bitcoin does not indicate a movement into an exchange (as you would normally see them moved again into cold storage or re-distributed). Mismanagement, lies or am I wrong? You be the judge.

Finally it would appear there is a strong censorship of any criticism on the WAVES project from within their own Slack. I was banned a while back and then re-added. They happily refer to it as "obvious FUD" to the members that remain. It would appear this has been echoed by many in this thread already.

A few extras:

1. I haven't been following the WAVES team or developments for the last few weeks (e.g. in the slack).

2. I don't know a-lot about HEAT/AntShares and some of the stuff I've mentioned them in doing might be inaccurate.

3. I may add to this post. There's a-lot of stuff I was trying to remember.

4. Twiggy just don't bother replying to my post please.

5. I also believe that there was very poor protection against abusers in the ico bounties phrase. Particularly in the Twitter & Newsletter bounties.

6. Just as a caveat: I'm not saying WAVES still can't be a success, it certainly can.

7. I'm currently involved with Stratis and I am consistently impressed by their great UK based team

Great hierarchy.  Looks like WAVES will be cornering the Chinese market.  Smart move!

With omertà as a main rule.

Sahsa looks like Capo di tutti capi:)

Rise hás only 3 guys on dev team, and release much more things.
Lol

Can you explain to me how you know what is going on behind the scenes because I think it is clear you know less than me. The thing is I observe progress being made You listen to fairies?

You have no idea what is happening behind the scenes i can tell you enough is happening

That is a very big team for not getting much done. Has anyone researched this team?

And what do you want to hear from me. You think I'm going to make excuses? So, I have nothing to hide and I will answer to you honestly not looking at yours sharp and strange assumptions.

I am the youngest member of the team and it is a known fact - https://i.imgur.com/YCfgkcQ.png My job is to support our clients and spread the news here and on our Wavestalk forum. If I get the questions to which I personally do not know the answer, I'm going to consult with senior management because it is normal, because we are a team. As soon as I get the answers and instructions, I start to act. And it is also a known fact.

You have done so many jump to conclusions about me, but you did not know what was going on under the hood, how many customers are turning to me via private messages. Nevertheless, you said so much superfluous words. Why is this? Because of this your mood become is better? Well, okay

Another well-known fact for you. Top management is almost always available in our Waves chat. Those who need an invitation is enough to contact me via PM. But you seem do not want to accept it. I'm not core developer. If you need a core devs, well go to the Slack chat. This is what we are doing and it will work on that way.

So I just wish you good mood and more patience.


Information will comes at the right time. So, my friend it is not necessary to do drama from this

Seriously who would even think about buying this token when it has someone like that behind the wheel. After all these weeks they create a one page website at a cost less than $1k that I could have done in a couple of days at most.

why does Twiggy Smile? I have always questioned this name.............

I as many others must be wondering why you provide this convenient degree of separation from those we really want to hear from.  You can't answer any questions of importance - have to go back to principals like Sasha and MX - but nothing material comes back..............

Its CLEAR that there are (paid) people on this team to do your job.  Why are they not doing it?

As my enlightened colleague (@Grahnite) suggests - All the Community, Communications and Brand managers in this image must be fired.

They are not doing anything. As for "marketing Waves to a group of people that could add value to Waves one way or another instead of responding to crybabies on this forum" @devOtion. Just tell us if thats maybe the case. The use of "crybabies" is not particularly appreciated in the circumstances and relatively offensive to investors.

So why are you the intermediary @Twiggy Smile? May I suggest (respectfully of course) you get lost and let the folk we have paid - do their job - upfront. We need people who talk with authority and can make decisions and answer directly.

I'm wondering if you are a Sasha sock puppet or somebody else from the Community, Communications and Brand managers.

If not - what gives?

This is a big project thats VERY well funded - time to get your shit together please WAVES.

Cheers - usukan








 

If I were Sasha reading your daily FUD I would also not only not reply but shut down this thread entirely.

nice hearing that mate i think it is better for all of us here who's holding their coins to be updated from time to time
good luck and hope to see more coming from those developers i just hoping for the price to bounce back.

I'm almost always active here and in Slack chat and I'm almost always instantly bring updates in this thread. Moreover, all developers are also almost always available for communication in SLack chat.

As soon as information is available , the community gets it.