Topic: We all know the rules (Read 603 times)

I get your point because Obari was acting like a dictator there, but there are better ways to make your point obvious without pointing fingers to anybody. Of course, you could reference his topic as an example of your subject matter, but consistently calling out Obari in your thread is no better than the social media dragging we see every day which results from misunderstandings between two celebrities or activists.

You sound as though you're beefing Obari and not correcting him and I'll advice you mince your words and handle such matters in a less personal way next time. I know this might not be your intent, but that is clearly its significance.

I do not have any problem with English nor pidgin as I understand and speak both perfectly, Obari must have been advocating for more use of pidgin English which is not bad, although he might have gone extreme with his advocacy, but creating a thread just to call out Obari makes no sense honestly.

I support your statement Mr Igebotz, not everyone is able to write in Pidgin some people understand perfectly but writing becomes a big issue for them and @Sexylizzy2813, you can't expect them to skip the Naija local board when posting cause they can't write in Pidgin, you should've put that into consideration and that's what Mr Igebotz is trying to say.

 For instance I have a younger one that finds it very difficult to communicate in Pidgin talk more of writing with it, in my family he's the only one that finds it very difficult due to his educational background and he grew up that way, imagine if he was in this forum and Pidgin was the only means of communication in our Local Board, how do you expect him to cope.

 This is a general forum, and I believe the moderators have taken their time to put lots of things in general into consideration before stating that both English and Pidgin should be our official language for communicate, those who could communicate with any should use it and it shouldn't call for confusion or much arguments.

Why some of una no want make non-Nigerians understand wetin una dey talk for this local board, this place isn't a secret cult, and anything you post on the internet is already public, and can be interpreted in one way or another by persons who don't even understand your language. You fit easily understand wetin users dey talk for their own local board if you use translation tools. That being said, translation tools have not added pidgin yet, but who knows, some people can find ways to still understand it through their African friends or some other means. Thus my message here is that anything you want to keep a scecret should be said only in PM's or in direct messages to the person on Telegram or Whatsapp, if you have their phone numbers.

The accepted languages na Pidgin and English, me i dey use the two of dem, i dey even mix the two of them for one post, i no get wahala with am, neither do i have a problem with people who want to communicate only in English Language.

I believe the victim of this thread has learnt his lesson and I know he won't try it again because he wouldn't want to ruin his reputation in this forum and I think the reason why the author of this thread brings this up here, as a new post it's because the repetition of that singular act has become unbearable for him and I want to ask, is it that our moderate didn't observe this act though he can't be able to figure out everything by himself but I believe he has someone like an assistant or maybe people who report issues to him, is it that they didn't also observe it cause if they have reported this I think this issue wouldn't have escalated to this extent.

Moreover, in as much everyone wants or need money that doesn't mean we should go against the rules and regulations of the forum and if victims are not treated properly the forum will look so bored and annoying. We are like family in this local board and family do make mistake at times and later they reconcile and forgive one another so I will like our able working moderator to handle this issue accordingly and I will suggest we stop this agitation cause we aren't teaching our newbie anything from this agitation.

Him don already explained am since na, say him create am this topic to report that guy wey dey always delete people post. E be like say as him post there op delete him post making it too difficult for him to post there and so him gas to come with this topic to attract mod attention towards that post wey that our brother make there.

Bro wetin u talk for this place na so e suppose be na so him as senior man for take follow am up let am know say him Dom too repeat this same post. But the matter be say this bobo him no be newbie abi him Neva read the rules and regulations for this place, abi him dey for for newbie to come correct am before him go take correction?

Background matters; not everyone grew up in an environment where Pidgin was widely used, and if they couldn't understand or write Pidgin properly all these years, they're not going to do it now just because some local board rules required it; instead, they'll post where they're needed, which is the discrimination we don't want. Pidgin is not our official language, but it is widely used by second and third-class citizens such as myself and you; first-class individuals lack such exposure, and some of them are on this board.

Our board is the most difficult place to read because Pidgin hasn't been added to translation tool yet unlike other Local board where Google translate everything to English the moment you open the board.

If I write my post in Pidgin I bet you say you go no understand one slang inside.

Mr Igebotz I no sure if I understand your English as no be pigin you take post am. But the thing be say make we no hide from the truth. Ok them say make we only use pigin and you dey consider members wey no fit understand am, wetin con happen to learning? I learn how to write for pigin by asking piple wey dey around wey sabi and understand, nothing spoil if we ask for help for wetin we no get or understand.
I no dey against the use of English to post but e too much, make we tell ourselves the truth. Post in English oh but make we limit am at least for ones make outsiders find am hard to understand our communication for the board, no be small thing them don put one or two together to get the main Koko wey we dey talk about.
So make una no dey see am like say we no want English for this LB at all at all. For the Proverb and Meaning thread you see say English plenty dia? No way, here sweet when the English no plenty, you check am nah. About the factors, my broda if no be pigin how we wan take know say nah naija board be this? Naija board without pigin no be Nigeria Local Board.

Accepting the both languages is a good one, because I noticed that most Nigerians are very fluent in speaking pidgin English but when it comes to writing it seems difficult for some to read to understand because we are very used  in writing and reading long sentences in English language. Make we try not to allow language to be a problem since these two languages is what we speak without any discrimination.

Local boards are where locals communicate and discuss common goals. They are not limited to Nigerians, so you can post on any local board as long as you can communicate effectively in the language and so on. The Naija board is not the only one where people speak in different languages; this also happens on other boards. Have you considered what will happen to other Nigerians who do not understand or know how to write in Pidgin if the board is restricted to only Pidgin?

So many factors were put into consideration before deciding on the language accepted here.

Yes, Pidgin is not our mother's language. Our native language is what we call our mothers tongue and it is our first and primary language. I still see a few people who are unable to speak pidgin same with those able to speake pidgin alone and aswell even the better population knows how to speak both. Reading the rules and regulations of the local board, English and pidgin are acceptable so everyone has the right to pick between both to speak, sometimes depending on one's state of mind the person might decide to speak differently with pidgin or sometimes proper English.

Pidgin is what makes the local board more interesting, it's like a coded language and people from outside finds it difficult to comprehend compared to English. Despite such, it can only be an appeal as not to always write in English especially when we are discussing something concerning what should be kept private in the country alone, maybe politics or economy related.

I no no wetting we dey even argue for here, this thing na no 1 rule for the READ ME!! Unofficial General Guidelines For Posting( Na de koko dem) which we all know about am, so delebrating on same issue dey challenge each other no go solve any problem. Despite say we na still new people wey just come, but atleast we don delebrate on this issues for several occasions and we don die the matter. speaking English and pidgin no go change anything provide the message dey pass across anybody wey dey read am. Make we no come dey behave like small children over issue wey we don pass finish. If ona forget so soon make I remind ona say for every organisation, before dem sign something to  be rule and regulations, the first stage na to bring am as agender or matter of the day. After Much more deliberation and agument, them go com conclude for one thing come pas am to bill and E go come become rule which we don agree on am and this na the rules wey we don gree


So anything or anybody going contrary to a rule that has been signed and stamped is just causing unnecessary drama. If them report this kind case to any authority them go judge am as breaking of rule. Though them dey rewrite rule but no be this way. It must be handled in a more matured way. No need of repeating this talk again I for even sudgest to avoid Spamming make igebotz lock this thread to avoid Spamming make everybody go find where him go make post collect money.

Sometimes una dey make this our LB dey boring to enter, see wetin you dey talk, "pigin is not our mother's tongue" the English nah language wey piple dey use all over the world and many countries get language wey them dey take communicate and na only them dey understand am and make we know say the pigin nah language wey we as Nigerians fit use communicate no matter the tribe you come from. Piple wey no fit use English language communicate fit use pigin and you no go expect some of us to go use pigin for other sections for the Forum, nah only we go understand am that na why I see say here nah the only special place to use the pigin and not English language.
For this posting in English for this our local board no be like this when I first join dis Forum, make we just continue to make here place where we fit call home, you speak abi post in pigin here no means say you no go school or them go come tear your results becos you use pigin post, na wetin piple outside dis naija section go take know say here nah Nigeria piple get here.
Wetin be the need we call here LOCAL BOARD? No be to behave local? Wen we go outside this section we speak all the loads of English wey full our mouth. Make we behave local for this board abeg una English and educated piple.

This my post is off-topic but I think it is worth correcting this. Pidgin is not our mothers' tongue. Mother's languages are local languages. Pidgin is derived from English and native languages in a way people that are not educated can also easily be able to speak and write English which led to Pidgin.

I found it easy to understand what that are posted on local boards.

Translator makes it very easy. Example is this Hugeblack post in العربية (Arabic):



Easily translated into this:



Many people here do not know how easy some translators are easy to use just like you are just visiting the forum with no much extra task.

I get question to ask. Whether we communicate for pidgin or English, the message we dey try pass, the target audience they receive am? If yes, then e no matter which parlance we nack am, provided we achieve our goal which be to disseminate information.

I neva know the rules of this place well concerning the chosen or preferred language but from wetin I dey read, the both dey accepted.
Now for the case of the user @Obari, I no go blame am for him actions at all becos he just dey try fight for the right of the use of pidgin for we local board unto say nah that one fit the place.
Baba, @CharlesTim, no see am say the guy wan try spam deliberately, instead look am in the light of somebody wey feel say tins no dey go as e suppose be. I know of one thread wey one of our greats @Mpamegbu open for here and e make am strictly pidgin so that users no go lose sight  and touch of wetin make the local board special. Nah true say this mata don dey discussed tire but look am like this, for the gambling section, people dey spam steady and for Meta, the mata don dey discussed on how to curb spam sotey e don be like broken record but that no mean say pipo no dey find ways to stop am.
 
You fit para change am for me say I be newbie and nothing I Sabi, but I just dey talk am as I see am because you for do the same thing @Obari dey do if you see say something no dey go as e suppose be.

Una don talk the one una sabi and I no go say anybody no get reason or Dey make sense but, firstly we gats look watin be self moderation forum wise. Self moderation puts the OP in charge of en thread and watin en talk day e go be na em go be. Na so the thing just be, as ugly or bad as it may sound, I no see anything wrong with say, person way create thread say, na watin en hope to see be this, you go con come, Dey do otherwise. That no make sense naw!

If I may ask,
Watin be the rule way en break in particular?
Make person dig am up make we analyze am.

Also, on those deleted posts from self moderated threads, una don try read the default message way Dey follow the deleted post for email? Try read am and read am again, then you go see how much power way OP of self moderated thread get. It’s that simple, allow the rules of self moderation to thrive.

I have checked other local boards, especially those that have more than one languages and I see the flexibility with which they interact without rancor. The Indian local board, for instance, have many sub languages and users are at liberty to choose which language to post with provided you are communicating and being understood by the community. This post from the Indian local board is a good example, as it was made in English with comments also English although they have a section for regional languages. That is how they organize theirs and there is no fight among them. We too can organize ours to suit our purpose and make here lively for us as one united family.

E get one thread concerning this same matter wey I see and I also said the same thing because I honestly don't like the fact that foreigners find it very easy to understand what we are saying whereas we can't understand what they are saying in their own local board,  I don Waka go other local board Dem and if you don't use translator you will never understand but for naija it is what it is,  as I see am for here no be everybody sabi write for pidgin language but Dem dey understand so make everybody dey write with the one wey em sabi even if na English language nothing still spoil, as long as we are communicating with each other and passing the message across. Let love lead.

Is good you came up with this thread my chairman @ O.P, as I'm sure I'm one of those who deliberated and  suggested that both Pidgin and normal English should be allowed here to boast engagement when this issue was raise. Because if I'm not mistaken, I can remember some people on this board were complaining of not been good with Pidgin, which was one of the reasons why they were avoiding the local board, of which we all deliberated about it and came up with a final conclusion to be allowing both use of normal English and Pidgin. And we can all testify that this have actually boast our monthly engagements ever since this was new adjustment was made. So for me, I see no reason why someone should come create a thread to discuss what have already been discussed and permanent solution issued.

Hence, I think this should act as a piece of information to those joining the forum this year who never knew of such amendment.