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Topic: We are now in the middle of this year,do you think BTC rise up has begun? (Read 261 times)

legendary
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The market and the situation already different, so we can't expect the history could repeated again, all of us hope that it could reach the ATH again, but until now the bear market still dominant, few times BTC show a good sign that is going to enter bull market then being slammed down by the exchanges being hacked news, so I think we need to wait more to see the bull market
legendary
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Many people believes that before the end of this year 2018,bitcoin will reach to the peak again. Do you think,today bitcoin rise up has begun?

Those predictions are worthless, they are just based on past performance and are made to manipulate the market a bit. There's almost no chance that we'll see a new ATH this year, and there's moderate to low chance that we'll have a trend reversal in this year. Bitcoin was growing for two years without any bear markets, so now is the time to cool off. Traders are scared to buy now because they aren't sure that this is the bottom, and it will take a long time to build confidence for a new rally.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
for example when some random Korean exchange that nobody even heard of before and never even used is hacked and people panic sell and price goes down, does that mean they give a shit about a tiny amount that was stolen? or give a shit about that exchange?

it is speculation. in bitcoin world it doesn't even have to be true, as i said above. mining doesn't even work that way to have such price level for profitability! but when enough people believe that a strong support level shapes up there.

This year I've seen a handful of mentions of mining profitability versus countless thousands of panics about exchange related stuff. It simply doesn't cross the average mind and there's no need to either. It'll take care of itself. And miners do not court publicity and the media does not report anything about it either.
hero member
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Many people believes that before the end of this year 2018,bitcoin will reach to the peak again. Do you think,today bitcoin rise up has begun?
Obviously, Bitcoin will going to peak in this year because every last three months it will going to moon so I hope this also Bitcoin is move to forward soon. This month we should expect good hype and some fluctuation also possible.
legendary
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and finally the fact that people believe that $6k is like THE price where mining stops being profitable. it doesn't matter if it is right or wrong as long as speculations are based on it.

No one other than the miners themselves knows where profit ends, and why should anyone give a shit about miner profits anyway? It's their problem. And if they clear off someone else will step in when difficulty falls.

for example when some random Korean exchange that nobody even heard of before and never even used is hacked and people panic sell and price goes down, does that mean they give a shit about a tiny amount that was stolen? or give a shit about that exchange?

it is speculation. in bitcoin world it doesn't even have to be true, as i said above. mining doesn't even work that way to have such price level for profitability! but when enough people believe that a strong support level shapes up there.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
and finally the fact that people believe that $6k is like THE price where mining stops being profitable. it doesn't matter if it is right or wrong as long as speculations are based on it.

No one other than the miners themselves knows where profit ends, and why should anyone give a shit about miner profits anyway? It's their problem. And if they clear off someone else will step in when difficulty falls.
legendary
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As in you think the real blood hasn’t been spilt yet & we need to see more carnage before the real new users flow to the forum?

Depends on whether this is a proper bubble pop or a breather.

this is more than a 70% drop. i would say it is a lot more than a proper bubble pop.

in any case there is a lot of reasons for this to be the end. the >70% drop for starters. then the fact that $6000 has been proven to be a very strong buy support and we have seen (3 times) that there is a huge incentive to buy bitcoin whenever price goes below that mark which pushes it back up.
and finally the fact that people believe that $6k is like THE price where mining stops being profitable. it doesn't matter if it is right or wrong as long as speculations are based on it.
legendary
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As in you think the real blood hasn’t been spilt yet & we need to see more carnage before the real new users flow to the forum?

Depends on whether this is a proper bubble pop or a breather.

If it's a proper bubble pop then yes, the real pain hasn't arrived yet, let alone the indifference that comes afterwards. People are still ready to declare 'this is it' with the slightest twitch upwards. That's not the general attitude you'd observe if it had all played out completely.

Could be a breather though.

I used to hate that 'bubble chart' but when you watch another one unfold in front of you it's clear it's based off sound psychology.

Yeah well I suppose we win either way, if it’s a breather then we rally again & our coins are worth a lot more once again.
If it nosedives then we load up on cheap coins in the $1000 range. Almost guaranteed future profits if we buy down in those areas.
legendary
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As in you think the real blood hasn’t been spilt yet & we need to see more carnage before the real new users flow to the forum?

Depends on whether this is a proper bubble pop or a breather.

If it's a proper bubble pop then yes, the real pain hasn't arrived yet, let alone the indifference that comes afterwards. People are still ready to declare 'this is it' with the slightest twitch upwards. That's not the general attitude you'd observe if it had all played out completely.

Could be a breather though.

I used to hate that 'bubble chart' but when you watch another one unfold in front of you it's clear it's based off sound psychology.
legendary
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There are still far too many totally worthless alts right up there unless this is just a pause in a bigger bubble a la April 2013. There's a lot of eagnerness left to burn up.

As in you think the real blood hasn’t been spilt yet & we need to see more carnage before the real new users flow to the forum?
legendary
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There are still far too many totally worthless alts right up there unless this is just a pause in a bigger bubble a la April 2013. There's a lot of eagnerness left to burn up.
legendary
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It seems to be holding well after the big pump of $1000. We were at $5774 and we pumped to $6510 which is impressive. Now we are finding common ground at around $6300 area and seems stable. If we can get to $8000 things will start looking good. If we can cross $10,000 and stay above the 5 figure mark things will look great and I will start believing in incoming ATH this year.

Nice post, this is how I’d like it to play out. Even getting above $8,000 would feel pretty good now. To be honest I’d be pretty happy to just get & stay above $10,000 by the end of 2018.
Happy to wait for an assault on a new ATH in 2019 myself.
member
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I'm hoping that this is now the beginning of the good bull run. Although nobody can predict the bitcoin price but I'm hoping that more buyers will come to invest and push the price higher. Let's hold and wait for the best price for this year.
legendary
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It seems to be holding well after the big pump of $1000. We were at $5774 and we pumped to $6510 which is impressive. Now we are finding common ground at around $6300 area and seems stable. If we can get to $8000 things will start looking good. If we can cross $10,000 and stay above the 5 figure mark things will look great and I will start believing in incoming ATH this year.
sr. member
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I think that bitcoin has not yet started to grow. But the fact that he stopped falling that's for sure. We're at the bottom of this. I'm not sure we'll start with him very soon. I'm taking my time I'm willing to wait as much time as you need to bitcoin has restored performance in December last year. But even that won't make me sell all my bitcoins.
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Many people believes that before the end of this year 2018,bitcoin will reach to the peak again. Do you think,today bitcoin rise up has begun?
I agree with the predictions of many people that bitcoin by the end of this year will increase in price from now, but it can be true and good news if crypto or bitcoin is really able to pass the problem of legality and government regulation on every tipa country in the world, when legality it has been obtained I have no doubt about the prediction, just wait for a sure good luck with all of us
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many people say they believe in a lot of things. they say they believe bitcoin will drop to $1000, they say they believe bitcoin will reach $20000,... what they really believe is usually not the thing they so eagerly tell others.

the market shows what they really believe in. for example if they believed price is going to fall to $1000 then they would have sold instead of buying strongly when price goes below $6k.
or if they believed price will reach $20k then they would have started buying instead of waiting around and seeing what happens after this small rise.

I agree, there are also many people making speculations just for the sake of it. Without much research on the market they would suggest some numbers without strong evidence to back them up.
Most of the cryoto people are not experts in technical analysis they just investing based on their assumption so we need to research for our prediction but actually no one knows the exact predictions.I hope now the price of bitcoin starts to recover so I will s suggest the people to invest now.
newbie
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many people say they believe in a lot of things. they say they believe bitcoin will drop to $1000, they say they believe bitcoin will reach $20000,... what they really believe is usually not the thing they so eagerly tell others.

the market shows what they really believe in. for example if they believed price is going to fall to $1000 then they would have sold instead of buying strongly when price goes below $6k.
or if they believed price will reach $20k then they would have started buying instead of waiting around and seeing what happens after this small rise.

I agree, there are also many people making speculations just for the sake of it. Without much research on the market they would suggest some numbers without strong evidence to back them up.
legendary
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Where is my ring of blades...
many people say they believe in a lot of things. they say they believe bitcoin will drop to $1000, they say they believe bitcoin will reach $20000,... what they really believe is usually not the thing they so eagerly tell others.

the market shows what they really believe in. for example if they believed price is going to fall to $1000 then they would have sold instead of buying strongly when price goes below $6k.
or if they believed price will reach $20k then they would have started buying instead of waiting around and seeing what happens after this small rise.
hero member
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Better move this topic to speculation, Why do you care about the price? Make your use of bitcoin and let others to do the same. Hodling is the best thing anyone could do right now.
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