We Could Be Living In Simulation Says Elon Musk - page 2.

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This guy is a fraud and a criminal. He is bribing corrupt politicians such as John McCain, to get favors for his firm (Space X). He is leeching the American defense and space budgets, by selling his over-priced and low quality rockets. Want to make America great again? Get rid of criminals such as McCain and Elon Musk.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 11:12:22 AM

Hey. It's a simulation. If you manage to get out, there's no way to know what to expect. Could be anything. Stay in the simulation and forget about it... and start living a happy life.

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I totally agree. But I don't agree in forgetting about it. I think the simulation argument is something good to talk about to start a stimulating conversation.

Like, when you say simulation, is this a simulation where all of you live in my mind simulation or do we all live inside a common simulation?

BADecker

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Hey. It's a simulation. If you manage to get out, there's no way to know what to expect. Could be anything. Stay in the simulation and forget about it... and start living a happy life.

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zojav

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"But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality? And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?"

If 15 billion here = 15 hours there, their reality would seem to us like a 1983 web-cam live stream. As to refresh rates, a natural reality should not have one. imo.

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This guy is a fraud and a criminal. He is bribing corrupt politicians such as John McCain, to get favors for his firm (Space X). He is leeching the American defense and space budgets, by selling his over-priced and low quality rockets. Want to make America great again? Get rid of criminals such as McCain and Elon Musk.

But but but... he created tesla...

The supposed iconic man besides mark zurkeberg.. I dont blame the guy though cause hes doing what most people with money do anyways.

It sad to see the corruption but what can you do about it..?

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2016, 09:57:49 AM

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Quote from: zojav on June 17, 2016, 02:38:07 AM

This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality? And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

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Then again, how do I know I'm really in a simulation if I haven't experienced reality? How do I kmow that I'm only imagining asking a question when I am really actually asking a question?

It doesn't really matter, since you only think that you are asking the question. Or do you?

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Quote from: BADecker on June 21, 2016, 09:09:52 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2016, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: zojav on June 17, 2016, 02:38:07 AM

This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality? And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

Grin

Then again, how do I know I'm really in a simulation if I haven't experienced reality? How do I kmow that I'm only imagining asking a question when I am really actually asking a question?

BADecker

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 21, 2016, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: zojav on June 17, 2016, 02:38:07 AM

This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality? And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

Come on. You are only imagining that you are asking these questions. You are in the simulation, and haven't really asked anything.

Grin

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Quote from: zojav on June 17, 2016, 02:38:07 AM

This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

But what if our 15 billion years = 15 hours on base reality? And how would you know it takes that much refresh rate to mimic reality if one has not experienced it?

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Quote from: GreenBits on June 17, 2016, 01:45:44 AM

This is something you muse about over drinks or a bowl with close friends. You don't say shit like this out loud, especially when you are looking for additional VC and want then to take you seriously.

True. But this is a guy who has already achieved so much and is considered somewhat a titan in the business world. And not only that, his businesses are forward moving and future facing. On September he's going to show everyone his detailed plan on how to send a man to Mars then back. Despite of expressing what he really thinks, how can you really not take him seriously?

zojav

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This simulation did not start a million years ago. It started with the big bang and has been running about 15 billion years. Our entire universe is simulated. (if true)
Theres a refresh rate for our universe. Its around a trillion times per second, but it exists.
Is there a quantum mechanic in the house?

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This is something you muse about over drinks or a bowl with close friends. You don't say shit like this out loud, especially when you are looking for additional VC and want then to take you seriously.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 16, 2016, 08:01:49 AM

I'm not a gamer but I like to check the level of similarity with the real world from time to time. Well I'd say we should wait a million years or maybe more until the similarity will be achieved.

But if we're really inside of a sim, how do we really know the difference? How do we know that the leaves of the trees in here look as real as they are outside the sim?

And why wait a million years? It all already looks real, watch the Avengers or some Marvel comic book movie that uses a lot of CGI... Watch The Jungle Book. It looks all real.

Because our real simulation is a trillion times more complex than the Matrix movie simulation.

Cool

So meaning it's possible after a million years. But how do we know that million years has not been passed if we're actually inside a simulation?

It doesn't make any difference, does it? The complexity of the real-life simulation is something that will have to be dealt with, at least partially, through the subconscious. And there really isn't anybody who knows what goes on even in their own subconscious mind. Matrix-like simulation was there to give us ideas, not to show us the way things exist.

Cool

What do you mean by that? That sims are more of an experiment rather than for entertainment and historical value?

I mean that the idea of Neo in the Matrix has nothing to do with reality. The complexity of reality makes the Matrix idea something we could not fathom if we devoted a thousand years to full study of it. The best idea is to use our sim, and live life.

Cool

But then again, if we really are in a sim, how do we really know the 'complexity of reality' is? We won't even know what 'reality' really is because we haven't experienced it.

All you are really saying is that the idea is fun to play with. Or, maybe it is painful for you.

The sim is complex, right? Now many choices does that give us for what reality is like?

Cool

? Can you please rephrase? I don't know where you're getting at. Thanks.