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That's right, the government does regulate certain food prices and the market will determine depending on the demand for the item. If the item is scarce and demand increases of course the price of the item will continue to increase and this will be very difficult for the government to control. When government officials are in an area with a high level of corruption, it will be very difficult to find a stable price for an item, of course there are even some groups who hold back an item so that the price of the item increases and they can make a profit from the item.
That's true, maybe it's the same as our basic needs, prices can increase at any time, but of course we won't be able to deny it, even though there are some people who might hold demonstrations to ask for policies regarding unreasonable price increases, but sometimes that doesn't happen. produce nothing. therefore I think we have to work hard because there is no point in talking too much about the government while we are just ordinary people, what we have to do is we have to be able to compensate by looking for a job that actually produces enough wages to compensate, even though it is difficult to get a good job. have big wages but basically we have to be able to try to survive.

There is no point in hoping for the government, even though they promise good things at the beginning of the election or inauguration, but usually they lie, they will be selfish when they are elected and this actually happens in my country, it has even become a tradition that the government only says nonsense. just.
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All of us need a good wages, because almost all the products we need is now high at price, and in order for us to buy them all we need a big salary, inflation, government to government conflict, war,calamity and there so much more problem that affect the product price which makes ordinary citizen on particular country suffer a lot, this problem is not new but i don't think the government can have a direct solution with this.
After the Covid period passed and the El Niño season had just finished, the economic crisis hit almost all countries, so the difficulties caused by all of this were still lingering. I clearly agree with you that we need decent wages to be able to cover the inflation that occurs because of the above, which causes prices to increase and the value of the salary received actually decreases. Of course, everyone wants to get wages that can keep up with rising prices, but the company must also be able to run, because increasing wages will kill the company, so there will be a dilemma. At times like this, the government must be there to provide solutions with various regulations.
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enforcing regulation such as prices like that is great honestly, it keeps the price from become overly inflated anyway, it remembers me of the pandemic where price shooting up high but never go down again it just crazy to think that the economy could work like that but its the reality we're living here.
what I think should be done right though the salary increase should also follow the rates of the inflation and beat it by a little because salary increase where the economic inflation just going up too much means we literally just have the same purchasing power, so it should be taken into account too.
but overall if the government can keep the price of housing in control like the price of the simple housing should be equal to 15 year of 60% people's minimum wage that'd be great, that means people can afford housing but i know that the fact that our population keep increasing might be the biggest hurdle.
its overall tough thing to regulate with the most efficient i presume.
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In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

If the government try to increase the minimum wage, the sellers of goods and products will in one way or the other try to increase price of goods, so instead of increasing minimum wage, government should double their effort in fighting inflation because that is the underlining factor that is affecting workers wages. But one thing people are always refusing to accept is the fact that ordinary prices of goods will increase after a long period of time, most time this increase doesn't come suddenly it comes gradually, so having it in mind that prices will increase but not astronomically is always good. The government can only do their own bit, which for me I think is price regulation and keeping a healthy economy.
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In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

There would be specific sectors that would really be making or doing their role specially on controlling market prices on which it would be better that you shouldn't really be stressing yourself because even if we do say up on the things that is preferred but they are still the ones who would really be having that decision in the end. They are really that wary about those economy conditions on which its better that letting them be on how they would really be tending to handle such condition. People would really be able to see whether they are doing things right or not, but we should also think that not all happening
in the economy is something that could be controlled because there would be tons of factors on which its something that cant be changed up.

So you cant really be always having to put the blame on the government because market prices isnt something that they could be able to control specially
importation,exportation and other stuffs isnt something that could be determined.
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In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

All of us need a good wages, because almost all the products we need is now high at price, and in order for us to buy them all we need a big salary, inflation, government to government conflict, war,calamity and there so much more problem that affect the product price which makes ordinary citizen on particular country suffer a lot, this problem is not new but i don't think the government can have a direct solution with this.
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In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

I think governments always wanted to make everything become simple to make the people live with less problem in financial aspect they wanted everything to be balance, in terms of prices and salary, but sometimes there are a lot of opportunists who take advantage with the absence of police force/executor of the law, one big problem is the corruption on some government agencies this is a very big problem that is not easy to solved and a very sad reality.
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Well said, We should not depend everything to the government, what's more important is for us to gain more knowledge and experiences so we can have a higher pay. in truth, everyone can grow independently especially when it comes to career but are afraid to try and take risks because they don't have confidence in their abilities.
Many believe that working in the government sector will be able to produce the best in life financially. So it's not surprising that everyone is competing to be able to hope and depend on the government. Even though what you say is true, it is at times like this that technological progress has occurred. With strong abilities of yourself, you will be able to grow even better independently. In fact, it is not unusual to be able to be more successful. It is true that fear of taking risks is an obstacle, but with careful calculations it can be done.
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Governments can bring instability too, if they overregulate.  If they fix prices in a way that prevents a legitimate market and a realistic price then the effect is to suppress open business and instability occurs.  Even just plain taxes can bankrupt a country and misdirect business in ways that waste its productive capacity.

All the things that people expect to help can do the opposite, just a simple minimum wage can cause job losses not the hoped for higher wages.  Force is a bad way to implement anything, if you could only eat your dinner with a pickaxe and hammer you would often go hungry Tongue   Government is a blunt instrument, its best played lightly and should always avoid swamping the little start ups with endless red tape and demands.


It's not "Governments can bring instability", it's actually "Governments DO bring instability". Why? Because they own a money-printer and it goes BRRRRR anytime they want to, to bail out their buddies in the legacy banking and financial system. They also use the money-printer to increase government spending, which is inflationary. Plus the effects of money-printing, which causes inflation, is like a tax because printed money is used to fund the government at the expense of the currency to devalue.
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Governments can bring instability too, if they overregulate.  If they fix prices in a way that prevents a legitimate market and a realistic price then the effect is to suppress open business and instability occurs.  Even just plain taxes can bankrupt a country and misdirect business in ways that waste its productive capacity.

All the things that people expect to help can do the opposite, just a simple minimum wage can cause job losses not the hoped for higher wages.  Force is a bad way to implement anything, if you could only eat your dinner with a pickaxe and hammer you would often go hungry Tongue   Government is a blunt instrument, its best played lightly and should always avoid swamping the little start ups with endless red tape and demands.
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This thread 🧵 shows one thing humans are really really really fucked as that can’t agree on foods you can eat never mind the price of the food.

Well as you can see humans have had a long history of life and society. Back then bread and water would have been good but now as we advance so does our culture and beliefs. We have learned about agriculture which is how a lot of countries are accustomed to eating rice and other plant crops meanwhile it is not that common in other countries.

It’s not really about preferences but more of what is accessible and available to them. It’s difficult to reverse thousands of years of cultures and history so we can all agree on what food to eat as a whole.


Coming back to the abilities of different people, not everyone is ready for this change, so I think we have to prioritize ourselves to achieve it all without depending on the government or its policies.
And for food it also depends on our financial capacity to be able to fulfill it or not.


Well said, We should not depend everything to the government, what's more important is for us to gain more knowledge and experiences so we can have a higher pay. in truth, everyone can grow independently especially when it comes to career but are afraid to try and take risks because they don't have confidence in their abilities.


You have the right idea, but the wrong context on insufficient wages and high prices of goods/services. The actual reason why the government shouldn't increase salaries and wages is because it's inflationary. If the government implements higher wages, then the companies who now need to pay higher wages will simply increase the price of goods and services. It's not because they're "greedy", it's because there's always a cost.
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In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

In a way you're right, but there are just some things the government can't do on its own, Economy is that particular thing on one hand.

The government can raise the salaries of everyone to meet the standards of living of every social hierarchy in your country but if they don't do something about the economy, shit will hit the fan and they wouldn't be able to recover from it. There are nuances in this type of discussion that would require them to really look on both sides and be smart with managing the salary of the regular people, and appeasing the elites who mobilize the economy.

Plus the fact that you're insinuating they put price freeze on shit is a classic way to shoot yourself in the foot. The Philippines did that in 2006-2007 with their price freeze on gas, and instead of this maneuver helping the regular joe, it only turned out worse for everyone as manufacturers impose taxes on the product itself that are more cutthroat.
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So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

When it comes to discussions on minimum wages, salary and inflation, all these aspect were do complex to deal with because it's what concerns our individual persons, governments and the economy we run daily, also we should know this that wages cannot just be increased like that just because we want people to be able to afford a living, there must be plans on ground from the government towards these approach to make it more suitable for the change intended.
Minimum wage is what government use to scam citizens  because if they add a minimum wage to the existing salary of  workers and inflation is still working on the economy of that particular that means the minimum wage have no effect now to the situation of the country economy, a minimum wage is another avenue government uses to embezzled funds and still the problem of the country will continue
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If you want the regulate everything by the government, then it's not going to be easy as this could mean that you have to give up your freedom, hence you will be under a authoritarian government. And if you are living in a country that you can go and free, then I think you should be thankful already that you are earning money for a job and not procrastinate.

Just to live in authoritarian country for a year, everything is regulated for you, food are subsidize and see how it goes. I don't understand why there are people who blame everything on their government though.
I think he is talking about those merchants/business owners who are over pricing their products and he wants the government to regulate them so that their prices will get normalized. It is already happening to some and I think those who are restricted here are only them and not the customers, which is a good thing. I'm with the OP because some of them are sometimes abusive already.

There are still types of regulations which are seem to be bad already, like for example here in cryptos because they are slowly removing the decentralized feature of it. Another bad thing is that, crypto users are now being charged by a tax.
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Coming back to the abilities of different people, not everyone is ready for this change, so I think we have to prioritize ourselves to achieve it all without depending on the government or its policies.
And for food it also depends on our financial capacity to be able to fulfill it or not.
Well said, We should not depend everything to the government, what's more important is for us to gain more knowledge and experiences so we can have a higher pay. in truth, everyone can grow independently especially when it comes to career but are afraid to try and take risks because they don't have confidence in their abilities.
I do agree that government shouldn't be involved, but the be fair I usually think governments should not be involved in most cases anyway, I do not feel like they are doing anyone a justice by doing anything.

I am a liberal person who wants government to be out of everything, and I mean literally everything. Otherwise the more they are involved the more trouble it becomes and that would definitely be a lot more like communism, because in communist nations government is involved in everything and that seems like that's the biggest trouble we are seeing right now. I personally want to avoid that and want to live in a nation that's free and we can do whatever we want without government putting their nose into everything at all times in every subject.
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This thread 🧵 shows one thing humans are really really really fucked as that can’t agree on foods you can eat never mind the price of the food.

Well as you can see humans have had a long history of life and society. Back then bread and water would have been good but now as we advance so does our culture and beliefs. We have learned about agriculture which is how a lot of countries are accustomed to eating rice and other plant crops meanwhile it is not that common in other countries.

It’s not really about preferences but more of what is accessible and available to them. It’s difficult to reverse thousands of years of cultures and history so we can all agree on what food to eat as a whole.

Coming back to the abilities of different people, not everyone is ready for this change, so I think we have to prioritize ourselves to achieve it all without depending on the government or its policies.
And for food it also depends on our financial capacity to be able to fulfill it or not.

Well said, We should not depend everything to the government, what's more important is for us to gain more knowledge and experiences so we can have a higher pay. in truth, everyone can grow independently especially when it comes to career but are afraid to try and take risks because they don't have confidence in their abilities.
Experience and knowledge may be better developed in an enabling environment devoid of others control and opinions.
A large society will cause the economy to increase the prices of things because of the ease of restocking and distribution.
The thing that may be of aid to citizens in a state will be the need for development and programs to informate and educate the working class as well as cross major hurdles that may border around financial illiteracy.
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The government can only regulate prices for certain foodstuffs and that is only the upper limit or highest price, and the market will always determine the overall price, the rarer the goods are found and the demand is high, the market will automatically raise prices, and you will know that in countries with high levels of corruption and even their officials are involved in determining prices in the market because they are trying to make a profit.
What the government can do is only monitor prices in the market and when they have exceeded the normal limit, the government will act, but often they fail to carry out this function so that the prices of basic commodities continue to rise and sometimes they are rarely available on the market.
That's right, the government does regulate certain food prices and the market will determine depending on the demand for the item. If the item is scarce and demand increases of course the price of the item will continue to increase and this will be very difficult for the government to control. When government officials are in an area with a high level of corruption, it will be very difficult to find a stable price for an item, of course there are even some groups who hold back an item so that the price of the item increases and they can make a profit from the item.
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This thread 🧵 shows one thing humans are really really really fucked as that can’t agree on foods you can eat never mind the price of the food.

Well as you can see humans have had a long history of life and society. Back then bread and water would have been good but now as we advance so does our culture and beliefs. We have learned about agriculture which is how a lot of countries are accustomed to eating rice and other plant crops meanwhile it is not that common in other countries.

It’s not really about preferences but more of what is accessible and available to them. It’s difficult to reverse thousands of years of cultures and history so we can all agree on what food to eat as a whole.

Coming back to the abilities of different people, not everyone is ready for this change, so I think we have to prioritize ourselves to achieve it all without depending on the government or its policies.
And for food it also depends on our financial capacity to be able to fulfill it or not.

Well said, We should not depend everything to the government, what's more important is for us to gain more knowledge and experiences so we can have a higher pay. in truth, everyone can grow independently especially when it comes to career but are afraid to try and take risks because they don't have confidence in their abilities.
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This thread 🧵 shows one thing humans are really really really fucked as that can’t agree on foods you can eat never mind the price of the food.

Well as you can see humans have had a long history of life and society. Back then bread and water would have been good but now as we advance so does our culture and beliefs. We have learned about agriculture which is how a lot of countries are accustomed to eating rice and other plant crops meanwhile it is not that common in other countries.

It’s not really about preferences but more of what is accessible and available to them. It’s difficult to reverse thousands of years of cultures and history so we can all agree on what food to eat as a whole.
The developments that continue to occur in all sectors cannot be stopped and currently there are quite a lot of experts who are making innovations and even making better progress.
However, implementing this in our lives seems to be forced by circumstances that give rise to a great desire to be able to fulfill it.

Coming back to the abilities of different people, not everyone is ready for this change, so I think we have to prioritize ourselves to achieve it all without depending on the government or its policies.
And for food it also depends on our financial capacity to be able to fulfill it or not.
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This thread 🧵 shows one thing humans are really really really fucked as that can’t agree on foods you can eat never mind the price of the food.

Well as you can see humans have had a long history of life and society. Back then bread and water would have been good but now as we advance so does our culture and beliefs. We have learned about agriculture which is how a lot of countries are accustomed to eating rice and other plant crops meanwhile it is not that common in other countries.

It’s not really about preferences but more of what is accessible and available to them. It’s difficult to reverse thousands of years of cultures and history so we can all agree on what food to eat as a whole.
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