Topic: We need to moderate this section ??? (Read 1110 times)
any updates ?
It's more so "we don't do it because it wouldn't help much and would require much more moderation". I ask for new boards whenever I see a single, specific type of thread dominating the board (e.g. Bounties(Altcoins) or possibly tokens), not a collection of loose, minor or trend-specific characteristics. If I were to ask for new boards (which I probably will in the near future), I'd have to make sure they wouldn't just sit empty after a trend passes.
I fully disagree with that statement. Whilst the suggestion(s) by OP may or may not be optimal, there is a clear distinction between classic altcoins and ICOs/pre-sales/et. al. and there's a lot o both. That section is suffering greatly due to the flood of both, and a separation would be extremely beneficial.1) Miners.
2) Investors.
Group 1 will be looking for altcoins that can be mined, and this is very rarely the case with ICOs et. al. Such a user has to waste a lot of time in that section trying to find such. Group 2 would be looking for potential new ICOs/projects that they can invest in. They have to waste a lot of time avoiding standard alts. There are a lot of both: 1) Altcoins (as in the old days). 2) Token sales, that would justify a separation.
It's more so "we don't do it because it wouldn't help much and would require much more moderation". I ask for new boards whenever I see a single, specific type of thread dominating the board (e.g. Bounties(Altcoins) or possibly tokens), not a collection of loose, minor or trend-specific characteristics. If I were to ask for new boards (which I probably will in the near future), I'd have to make sure they wouldn't just sit empty after a trend passes.
I fully disagree with that statement. Whilst the suggestion(s) by OP may or may not be optimal, there is a clear distinction between classic altcoins and ICOs/pre-sales/et. al. and there's a lot o both. That section is suffering greatly due to the flood of both, and a separation would be extremely beneficial.1) Miners.
2) Investors.
Group 1 will be looking for altcoins that can be mined, and this is very rarely the case with ICOs et. al. Such a user has to waste a lot of time in that section trying to find such. Group 2 would be looking for potential new ICOs/projects that they can invest in. They have to waste a lot of time avoiding standard alts. There are a lot of both: 1) Altcoins (as in the old days). 2) Token sales, that would justify a separation.
It's more so "we don't do it because it wouldn't help much and would require much more moderation". I ask for new boards whenever I see a single, specific type of thread dominating the board (e.g. Bounties(Altcoins) or possibly tokens), not a collection of loose, minor or trend-specific characteristics. If I were to ask for new boards (which I probably will in the near future), I'd have to make sure they wouldn't just sit empty after a trend passes.
I fully disagree with that statement. Whilst the suggestion(s) by OP may or may not be optimal, there is a clear distinction between classic altcoins and ICOs/pre-sales/et. al. and there's a lot o both. That section is suffering greatly due to the flood of both, and a separation would be extremely beneficial.It's more so "we don't do it because it wouldn't help much and would require much more moderation". I ask for new boards whenever I see a single, specific type of thread dominating the board (e.g. Bounties(Altcoins) or possibly tokens), not a collection of loose, minor or trend-specific characteristics. If I were to ask for new boards (which I probably will in the near future), I'd have to make sure they wouldn't just sit empty after a trend passes.
I fully disagree with that statement. Whilst the suggestion(s) by OP may or may not be optimal, there is a clear distinction between classic altcoins and ICOs/pre-sales/et. al. and there's a lot of both. That section is suffering greatly due to the flood of both, and a separation would be extremely beneficial.Indeed, though AFAIK, all my requests were at least partially granted.
Fair enough. Although it's not my call in the end (theymos is the one who can add new boards), I don't think the suggested sections would add much value compared to the immense workload they would create.
I find it humorous that we often see the following with some of the BTCT staff, either "we don't do it because we can't fully stop it" and now "we can do it, but it's too much work so let's delay it for now". It's not like the altcoin ANN section is *not a cluster of garbage*. 
I may consider asking for something akin to a token announcement sub-board some time in the future but I still have to think about it.
It's not that you should ask for it in the future, you should have already tasked for it a long time ago.Not completely. While I can't create boards on my own, I can and have both requested and had new boards created within the altcoin sections.
Correct, and theymos can shoot your request down for any random reason.Each coin announcement in POW/POS section must be announce starting with [ANN][ALGO][SHORT_COIN_NAME]
Example:
That's something you're going to have to request from theymos though I doubt he'll create such rule, considering that AFAIK the only board where some sort of format for thread naming is enforced is Press. Example:
Code:
=> [X11][DASH] - anything here
=> [QUARK][BTQ] - anything here
=> [ETHASH][ETC] - anything here
=> [X11][XVP] - anything here
=> [QUARK][BTQ] - anything here
=> [ETHASH][ETC] - anything here
=> [X11][XVP] - anything here
Code:
=> [ICO] - anything here
=> [PRESALE] - anything here
=> [PRESALE] - anything here
Code:
=> [BOUNTY] - anything here
=> [GIVEAWAY] - anything here
=> [GIVEAWAY] - anything here
Although it's not my call in the end (theymos is the one who can add new boards), I don't think the suggested sections would add much value compared to the immense workload they would create.
I find it humorous that we often see the following with some of the BTCT staff, either "we don't do it because we can't fully stop it" and now "we can do it, but it's too much work so let's delay it for now". It's not like the altcoin ANN section is *not a cluster of garbage*. I may consider asking for something akin to a token announcement sub-board some time in the future but I still have to think about it.
It's not that you should ask for it in the future, you should have already tasked for it a long time ago.Not completely. While I can't create boards on my own, I can and have both requested and had new boards created within the altcoin sections.
Correct, and theymos can shoot your request down for any random reason.
I'm aware of the thread - no need to bump it.
Although it's not my call in the end (theymos is the one who can add new boards), I don't think the suggested sections would add much value compared to the immense workload they would create. Just having to figure out the "new revolutionary coin's" specs would generate massive amounts of busywork, let alone deciding whether this new obscure altcoin belongs in one section or another, especially when it's obfuscated via marketing or just shitty presentation (both of whom are equally common). I wouldn't be so skeptical about the number of threads posted in wrong boards after the creation of a new section if 40-60% of my thread moves in Altcoin Discussion wouldn't be to Speculations (Altcoins) - one of the newer boards.
I may consider asking for something akin to a token announcement sub-board some time in the future but I still have to think about it.
Not completely. While I can't create boards on my own, I can and have both requested and had new boards created within the altcoin sections.
Although it's not my call in the end (theymos is the one who can add new boards), I don't think the suggested sections would add much value compared to the immense workload they would create. Just having to figure out the "new revolutionary coin's" specs would generate massive amounts of busywork, let alone deciding whether this new obscure altcoin belongs in one section or another, especially when it's obfuscated via marketing or just shitty presentation (both of whom are equally common). I wouldn't be so skeptical about the number of threads posted in wrong boards after the creation of a new section if 40-60% of my thread moves in Altcoin Discussion wouldn't be to Speculations (Altcoins) - one of the newer boards.
I may consider asking for something akin to a token announcement sub-board some time in the future but I still have to think about it.
I agree, it's like 50 shitcoin ICO's a day - you cannot differ between "real" coins and scams anymore
And yes, you guys are right when listing the problems inherent with using this forum as the sole source of information about an altcoin, along with a thousand other coins. Which is the reason people spam in the first place, because there is no specific board for mining a particular coin, or for services for a coin, or whatever else. The only real answer is to setup coin specific forums, any serious coin will do this. The rest are pump and dumps, or scams that won't be around long enough, and we aren't going to cater to them. We won't setup coin specific boards here either. Spamming is a crutch people have used to get around these limitations, and it's getting out of hand.
This thread got buried quickly. How do we get it in-front of a mod?
A moderator's opinion is pretty much worthless on this.
the thread up for moderator see it
This thread got buried quickly. How do we get it in-front of a mod?
A moderator's opinion is pretty much worthless on this.Should it be in a different sub?
No.I've sent a PM to theymos with a link to it. Whether he will respond here is not something that I would know. Let's wait and see.
This thread got buried quickly. How do we get it in-front of a mod? Should it be in a different sub?
I gave my vote for separate sections too.
Now it's a little mess around and it's hard to get any real news on a project if you didn't bookmark the topic.
Now it's a little mess around and it's hard to get any real news on a project if you didn't bookmark the topic.
There are many many threads in here. It is too complicated. We cannot find the new proper announcements.
Needed more sub-forum under Announcement (Altcoins)
Each coin announcement in POW/POS section must be announce starting with [ANN][ALGO][SHORT_COIN_NAME]
Example:
Needed more sub-forum under Announcement (Altcoins)
Code:
-ICO & Presale
-Giveaway & Bounty
-POW Coins
-POS Coins
-Hybrid Coins (POW & POS)
-OTHERS
-Giveaway & Bounty
-POW Coins
-POS Coins
-Hybrid Coins (POW & POS)
-OTHERS
Each coin announcement in POW/POS section must be announce starting with [ANN][ALGO][SHORT_COIN_NAME]
Example:
Code:
=> [X11][DASH] - anything here
=> [QUARK][BTQ] - anything here
=> [ETHASH][ETC] - anything here
=> [X11][XVP] - anything here
=> [QUARK][BTQ] - anything here
=> [ETHASH][ETC] - anything here
=> [X11][XVP] - anything here
Code:
=> [ICO] - anything here
=> [PRESALE] - anything here
=> [PRESALE] - anything here
Code:
=> [BOUNTY] - anything here
=> [GIVEAWAY] - anything here
=> [GIVEAWAY] - anything here
There is actually a sub forum for Bounties here but people still use their main threads for campaigns :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
I think that they should put like [ANN][POW/POS][SHORT_COIN_NAME] and specifics of algo in description but ICO's should have a totally different sub-forum
Great idea. If not separate subs for each coin type, at lease one for ICOs. It is tiring having to sort through 50 ICOs to find a legit coin ANN.
There are many people who has different needs.
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Some people likes only POW threads for a specific algo. So the coin dev must use [POW][ALGO]
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Sope people search for BOUNTY, signature campaign. They only look for it.
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There is so many different systems on altcoins. All the people lost in the complicated threads.
We need solution ASAP
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Some people likes only POW threads for a specific algo. So the coin dev must use [POW][ALGO]
Code:
A baikal user search for X11, X13, X14, X15, Quark and Qubit algo.
A GPU user search for Ethash, Equihash algo.
Some of GPUs can hash many different algos, Some of GPUs can hash only a few algo.
A GPU user search for Ethash, Equihash algo.
Some of GPUs can hash many different algos, Some of GPUs can hash only a few algo.
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Sope people search for BOUNTY, signature campaign. They only look for it.
***
There is so many different systems on altcoins. All the people lost in the complicated threads.
We need solution ASAP
agree with the changes for new posts. Although, what happens to old posts that are still active?
-Old post goes to the others section.
-If your project is a good project, you can create a brand-new thread on the proper section.
We need tidy and clear announcement since so many altcoin announcements.
Yes, please. That ICO spam is tiring
agree with the changes for new posts. Although, what happens to old posts that are still active?
sub-forum under Announcement
-ICO & Presale
-Giveaway & Bounty
-POW Coins
-POS Coins
-Hybrid Coins (POW & POS)
-OTHERS
=> Very nice idea, I also think this should be
-ICO & Presale
-Giveaway & Bounty
-POW Coins
-POS Coins
-Hybrid Coins (POW & POS)
-OTHERS
=> Very nice idea, I also think this should be
I also vote for separation.
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