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Topic: We should Unit against Scam Project As a Crypto Community?? - page 2. (Read 902 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 267
Same fuckers that has been scamming for years. If they are not government then they are under government protection.

I would like to see them burn in hell!
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 118
It's damn difficult to dictate a scam project because they do come in the same format
its difficult but its possible . cant you see that there are still scam attempts that are being busted ? if the investigator is dedicated and smart he can always trace and expose the scammer whenever hole they hide  .


In my opinion, there are a lot of scammers not only in the ico market,
scammers are everywhere  . before when there is no ico and cryptos , scammer already existed but now that cryptos are booming , scammer are already shift into this space because there is alot of money in here and their earning potential is huge  .

overall , i agree on the op's idea but we also know that most of us are busy people  . i guess those that are working full time on the crypto space can do the job more accurately since they are more familliar about the faces , names and other factors  .
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
How about building an algorithm that can identify scam ICO's.

What defines a SCAM ICO?

Consensus Conditions

Weighted Conditions (How would you weight the following
Negative being the worse case, positive being the best case).

Technical components:
Technical details and or theory  (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Technical team backgound        (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Yellow paper                            (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
White paper                             (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Uniqueness:                             (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Adaptabiity:                             (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Sustianablility                          (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Help desk                                (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Dev support                             (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Project Roadmap                      (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Project deliverables                  (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)


Accountability components
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Legal leadership / owners          (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Governance and compliance       (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Board of directors                      (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Team Visability                          (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Team Accessability                     (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Financial transparency                (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Live speakers                             (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Marketing plan                           (-5. -4, -3, -2, -1,0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5)


The premise being if a weighted average is in the negative, the conclusion is that a high probability of a scam, if the average medium is plus 3, the risk is reduced and likely hood that this is a legitimate project that is rating high. If the average medium falls between 0-2 a warning that more research is needed in order to conclude.  
hero member
Activity: 2184
Merit: 531
I also stay away from shitcoins and support only good projects but there will always be more greedy people who are here for the money and will pump anything as long as it pays. How do you want to fight something as a community if the community is and will be divided.

I don't judge. Some people are poor and need money and you have to be comfortable with your investment to be able to say no to shady projects. Poor people will always fall victim to scams that are promoted by other poor people because their need of money and greed blinds them.
jr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 5
I just don't ever invest in ICO's anymore and avoid any crypto without a creation cost. No more scams for me.

Do not ever invest in any crypto with no fundamental backing. That is a rule.

https://www.amsinger.org/fundamental-method
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
start today just like me to earn your bitcoin, do not wait any longer Wink



sr. member
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Merit: 300
To be honest, it is hard to stop a scam since they are hard to spot on especially if you are not used to things they do. Scams had been part of this community for so long, even IRL can't stop it, what more in a community where you can't tell who the guys are and decentralization is a thing. The great thing here is that you can create a group or a site where you can warn people about scam projects. You can analyze the project for them and you can tell them which is which. You can't stop scammers to scam but you can raise the awareness of the people and give them the knowledge to prevent them from being scammed.
member
Activity: 921
Merit: 10
I think people do what they can. Investors have become smarter and they no longer bring money to scammers. It also affects them and they are getting smaller. But on the whole you are right, we must work together to fight this.
sr. member
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Merit: 276
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I think most people get scammed are newbies every time.

Because most of the scam is very easy to see. But new people are falling into this.
sr. member
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Merit: 253
I agree to this one. Unity really will make things possible but how we can do it? Who are the people we should deal with? Is it the right time to release ourselves from the anonymity in Crypto so we can identify who are the real scammers here? I think we really need to know how we can convince everyone.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Yeah we should propose  a plan or any project against  scammers.. because now people  are believing on bitcoin and they are investing in bitcoin.. so be aware from hackers and scammers..
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
The topic is not bitcoin related and focuses on ICO. But, just to answer it is really difficult  to stop developers/people from .aking scam projects. What we can do is to educate our selves and not be lazy and greedy when investing. A lot of investors are blinded by the potential money they could earn from ICO. Of people will just give time doing their research before investing, scam projects will get less support from the crypto community it self, thus giving a higher chance to legitimate project to gain more funds. Maybe this way, if people will just deligently review projects and stop investing and supporting scam ICOs the chance of people getting scammed thru this will lessen.
Yes you are right.. but   it is also related to bitcoin.. because  we  should be aware of scammers specially for newbies.. 
member
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Of course, as bounty hunters, we can easily fight off fraudulent projects if we combine our efforts for this. We may well create anti-advertising projects for such projects and many potential investors will then give up their initial intention to invest in such projects, after which they simply will not raise the necessary funds for this.
However, for this it is necessary to have valid reasons to consider a certain project and its team as fraudsters.
full member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 117
Honestly I don't think there's much we can do to stop this scams on the market. The problem is there are always going to be persons, most of them newbies that invest in new ICOs just because they are stupid and look for quick money.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
After lots of frustration , lots of loss , almost loosing hope now market is recovering . As a crypto community well wisher I am requesting Bitcointalk community as well as other crypto community to fight against Scam projects . So that people should not loose belief on Crypto .

Why i am saying this because ?? . We have seen lots of Scam projects ICO's in past in that lots of investors hard earned money gone . It was became exactly like .COM bubble lots of investors lost their money . These scammers took away this money from crypto space .

1) Now as a community we should not encourage ICO'S for time being . As if now there is enough projects funded in crypto space for next 100 years
2) We need investors who believe in new era of currency . Also needs to attract NEW investors . For that we have to keep Crypto Space Clean .
3) Crypto projects are necessary but we are having enough project for a time being . Community  has to understand this . Find a good project already in a place . Support that kind of projects . Which is giving real value to crypto space . Instead of investing in Scam project and getting into trap .

Finally we should keep away our Greedy mentality for sometime we should work together for long term vision of crypto currency .

Note : I know already some of community members really working hard to fight against Scam projects . I have huge respect for them . Now we should also give contribution .


I agree on point number one people should stop investing in ICO we have seen so many lost money
on point number two, we already had a lot of investors willing to take a risk in the right project but afraid that they cannot find the right one
and on point number three, nobody wants to invest in a scam project if they know that it is a scam project, and yes we have the scam busters to thank, they really made a great contribution.

ICO is not the problem. People being foolish with their money is the problem. YOu see these ICO with pictures of people and that is ment to be "trustworthy" people fall for this. Whenever I see photos of the so-called ICO team I run like hell. Knowing who you giving your money to doesn't really matter. What matters is the project. Being anonymous is fine. It is thee projects that try so hard to "prove" themselves they actually just give off all the bad flags but still people fall for it. When they start asking for KYC to stay away. When they promise profits, stay away.  ICO can be very useful it is not the devs fault people give their money to a scam rather then a legit ICO.
hero member
Activity: 3024
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After lots of frustration , lots of loss , almost loosing hope now market is recovering . As a crypto community well wisher I am requesting Bitcointalk community as well as other crypto community to fight against Scam projects . So that people should not loose belief on Crypto .

Why i am saying this because ?? . We have seen lots of Scam projects ICO's in past in that lots of investors hard earned money gone . It was became exactly like .COM bubble lots of investors lost their money . These scammers took away this money from crypto space .

1) Now as a community we should not encourage ICO'S for time being . As if now there is enough projects funded in crypto space for next 100 years
2) We need investors who believe in new era of currency . Also needs to attract NEW investors . For that we have to keep Crypto Space Clean .
3) Crypto projects are necessary but we are having enough project for a time being . Community  has to understand this . Find a good project already in a place . Support that kind of projects . Which is giving real value to crypto space . Instead of investing in Scam project and getting into trap .

Finally we should keep away our Greedy mentality for sometime we should work together for long term vision of crypto currency .

Note : I know already some of community members really working hard to fight against Scam projects . I have huge respect for them . Now we should also give contribution .


I agree on point number one people should stop investing in ICO we have seen so many lost money
on point number two, we already had a lot of investors willing to take a risk in the right project but afraid that they cannot find the right one
and on point number three, nobody wants to invest in a scam project if they know that it is a scam project, and yes we have the scam busters to thank, they really made a great contribution.
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 10
A whole lot of bounty managers and crypto project ancillary services will know a project won't go anywhere yet they will advertise it and lure investors into making investment that won't materialize. If the whole community will be vigilant, then it should start from manager on this forum.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 215
Scammers are already part of our cryptocurrency community there is a saying that "a criminal is a saint until he is giving the opportunity" so the only support we can give ourselves is knowing what's real and authentic and what's a scam. Learn from scam events of the past but up  an inquisitive character
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
Crypto community is composed by thousands or millions of people, we can't expect everyone is going to endorse only legit projects. People need to understand it's part of every human societies and to not blame a community because there are scammers there.
Even the most advanced countries in the world have their issues and problematic people, but it doesn't make them smaller or weaker. I say the same about crypto currency. We can't cease scam projects, but we can't criticize crypto currency for this reason too.

Having this forum as biggest source of reliable information about cryptocurrency project,

DT members are doing their best to tagged out all the garbage projects from the legit ones, Even ICOEthics is doing a professional job in exposing scam.


We need to try rid ourselves as much as we can of scams. Most are obvious but they really just waste space and time. How great would it be if we knew we would always be paid?

With regards to DT members hopefully, this new trust system will help weed out the scammers and make them more apparent.
hero member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 514
Crypto community is composed by thousands or millions of people, we can't expect everyone is going to endorse only legit projects. People need to understand it's part of every human societies and to not blame a community because there are scammers there.
Even the most advanced countries in the world have their issues and problematic people, but it doesn't make them smaller or weaker. I say the same about crypto currency. We can't cease scam projects, but we can't criticize crypto currency for this reason too.

Having this forum as biggest source of reliable information about cryptocurrency project,

DT members are doing their best to tagged out all the garbage projects from the legit ones, Even ICOEthics is doing a professional job in exposing scam.
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