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Topic: Website mining Bitcoin without permission? (Read 850 times)

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PlayGame.com
October 30, 2017, 10:04:05 AM
#46
is it true that website can used for mining bitcoin? how can it will happen, as i know is website is work above the browser and if website can used for bitcoin mining maybe the browser have 100% privilege for access the cpu, can somebody tell me how it works?
full member
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October 30, 2017, 09:52:54 AM
#45
After reading about the Pirate Bay hijacking web miners (https://gizmodo.com/the-pirate-bay-added-a-cpu-hijacking-bitcoin-miner-to-s-1818488143) I wondered if anyone had created a list of such sites. How would you even detect that the site is stealing compute power from your device?

I may also be because the people who stole it and the person does not have a job, hopefully it will not happen
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October 30, 2017, 01:25:57 AM
#44
After  developing any site for any purpose, make sure there is adequate security. Hackers will always make an attempt but if the site is protected the developer can go to sleep.
legendary
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dogs are cute.
October 30, 2017, 12:42:28 AM
#43
After reading about the Pirate Bay hijacking web miners (https://gizmodo.com/the-pirate-bay-added-a-cpu-hijacking-bitcoin-miner-to-s-1818488143) I wondered if anyone had created a list of such sites. How would you even detect that the site is stealing compute power from your device?
I don't think there is any kind of software that takes care of mining without permission, it's their website that does all the shady stuff, this is one of the easy ways for pirate sites to earn revenues and even though it's illegal they do it because pirating is also illegal.
hero member
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October 29, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
#42
i think if other people mining bitcoin without permission to us then i think its illegal and forbidden but unfortunately we can not where is the software hiding in our computer or android. but i think if we have a good antivirus that can detect the virus or the source code, i think we can prevent the apps is run in background process.
sr. member
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October 29, 2017, 11:43:56 AM
#41
This is as shady as it gets isn't this illegal? I've heard of this before and a lot of the time they used to use your processing power to mine alt coins because it was much easier.
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October 29, 2017, 11:41:49 AM
#40
even i heard of such a situation it is actually bad it gives bitcoin a bad reputation website should depend on ad for generating revenie if they use their users computer to mine it might not be stable after sometime aa particular mining equipment  is always required for mininh
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October 28, 2017, 08:58:10 PM
#39
After reading about the Pirate Bay hijacking web miners (https://gizmodo.com/the-pirate-bay-added-a-cpu-hijacking-bitcoin-miner-to-s-1818488143) I wondered if anyone had created a list of such sites. How would you even detect that the site is stealing compute power from your device?

This is not new there is a lot of websites and games using this kind of trick stealing your computing power and use it to mine while you are playing their games. i'd become admin of a private server games and some script are attach to login page of the game then if the game starts then the mining will start too. so that is why some of game has a big specification requirements.
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October 28, 2017, 06:34:15 PM
#38
I mean it's relatively simple to find out if a website is using your CPU by monitoring the CPU usage. At the end of the day at the current difficulty of Bitcoin it's literally pointless of doing this for anyone except for experimental/testing.
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October 28, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
#37
It is not possible to mine Bitcoin through a website. You can mine Bitcoin only by using ASICs. Probably you are talking about mining Monero. It was quite popular lately and some websites have implemented it. I think it's better than ads unless it doesn't use 100% of my CPU. Laptop users had a hard time when they weren't controlling it.

This is true they are mining monero and most likely other websites are also using the code to mine with the end user. Also this was supposed or compensate with the advertisement. It can be profitable on their end and can really stop the annoyong ads on the website but i think mining without the end users knowledge or permission is not good and could be illegal. I hope in the future antivirus can detect websites that mine monero and just give you an option if want to continue with the site.on that way they are sure that the end user is agreeing with the website to mine on their end.
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Vires in Numeris
October 28, 2017, 06:05:43 PM
#36
It is not possible to mine Bitcoin through a website. You can mine Bitcoin only by using ASICs. Probably you are talking about mining Monero. It was quite popular lately and some websites have implemented it. I think it's better than ads unless it doesn't use 100% of my CPU. Laptop users had a hard time when they weren't controlling it.
I disagree, it is possible to mine a really small amount of bitcoin with the mentioned code. One of the bitcoin blogs in my country has already tried it just as an experiment (and they have marked the website to let the readers know), and the effect was really little. Some of the antiviruses among the readers were also detected the code in the website and the page was not allowed to load, so it was not a profitable thing.
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October 28, 2017, 05:56:58 PM
#35
It is not possible to mine Bitcoin through a website. You can mine Bitcoin only by using ASICs. Probably you are talking about mining Monero. It was quite popular lately and some websites have implemented it. I think it's better than ads unless it doesn't use 100% of my CPU. Laptop users had a hard time when they weren't controlling it.
sr. member
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October 28, 2017, 05:01:29 PM
#34
I don't see the problem here.

Guys do you seriously believe that anyone would sacrifice themselves by creating something like pirate bay without any personal return?
Remember: if it's free it's that you're the product.

You can pay every film and game you dowload illegally on something like pirate bay
Or you can chose to give them parts of your CPU power to mine btc and pay them like this.

Easy choice for me! Cheesy

Lol - true - I guess in this instance ethics isn't a major concern - either for the users or owners. Outside of the pirate bay though - what if you were paying for a Netflix subscription and they were stealing cycles from your CPU in a way that you would never know - would you care?

Also there's no point on complaining if you are the kind of person who is very sensitive with CPU usage and temperature. Illegal Sites can do what they want.
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 11:42:56 AM
#33
I don't see the problem here.

Guys do you seriously believe that anyone would sacrifice themselves by creating something like pirate bay without any personal return?
Remember: if it's free it's that you're the product.

You can pay every film and game you dowload illegally on something like pirate bay
Or you can chose to give them parts of your CPU power to mine btc and pay them like this.

Easy choice for me! Cheesy

Lol - true - I guess in this instance ethics isn't a major concern - either for the users or owners. Outside of the pirate bay though - what if you were paying for a Netflix subscription and they were stealing cycles from your CPU in a way that you would never know - would you care?
hero member
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October 27, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
#32
After reading about the Pirate Bay hijacking web miners (https://gizmodo.com/the-pirate-bay-added-a-cpu-hijacking-bitcoin-miner-to-s-1818488143) I wondered if anyone had created a list of such sites. How would you even detect that the site is stealing compute power from your device?

Guys, I don't think you need to worry so much about it. Nowadays so many sites are using this in their sites. And you cannot do anything against it. in my opinion, website mining wont damage your PC because generally after visiting the site for 10 or 30 minutes, we actually close the website. If you forget to close the site , then it will be a problem because it may heat up the CPU. The real problem with this mining sites is it makes our PC laggy when the site is open.
legendary
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October 27, 2017, 05:19:38 PM
#31
I don't really mind that websites do this, just because I'm not really affected because I'm using NoScript.
It could actually become a better revenue-model than advertising, if it's done with the users' consent though.

I personally wouldn't really mind lending my processing power for mining if it's only active when I'm on their website and if they ask for permission first.
hero member
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October 27, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
#30
Allot of web developers or using this web based browser mining with their website now smartly,
I my self can implement this in website before doing so I will be doing my research to see if this method is legal. Wink
hero member
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October 27, 2017, 04:51:27 PM
#29
Is this a criminal ?, I am a customer of pirate bay. I downloaded some apps and movies there.
after this I will leave it. thank you for caring.
Not really a criminal offense but they are using your CPU for mining monero and if you have a lot of loads of applications that are open on your window at the same time, you are the one that will be affected of it. They are with CPU mining as they are earning more there. When I'm visiting a website, I keep on checking the process and usage of my CPU and if goes crazy at 75%-100% I'm shutting down the browser and will restart my PC.
I think it's a criminal offense mainly because it is a pirate site. The site is illegal to operate in the first place but if the site is a legal site, there is no problem with that

We are talking about the mining thing, we know that they are a pirate site and yes it's a criminal offense and it has been suited by the authorities even before. I just don't know if the owner was freed or there are people who are working under him. But with the usage of their visitors CPU usage I think that's not a criminal offense but if we talk about the whole site, yes they are operating as illegal.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
October 27, 2017, 06:50:58 AM
#28
Is this a criminal ?, I am a customer of pirate bay. I downloaded some apps and movies there.
after this I will leave it. thank you for caring.
Not really a criminal offense but they are using your CPU for mining monero and if you have a lot of loads of applications that are open on your window at the same time, you are the one that will be affected of it. They are with CPU mining as they are earning more there. When I'm visiting a website, I keep on checking the process and usage of my CPU and if goes crazy at 75%-100% I'm shutting down the browser and will restart my PC.
I think it's a criminal offense mainly because it is a pirate site. The site is illegal to operate in the first place but if the site is a legal site, there is no problem with that
hero member
Activity: 3080
Merit: 603
October 27, 2017, 06:12:23 AM
#27
Is this a criminal ?, I am a customer of pirate bay. I downloaded some apps and movies there.
after this I will leave it. thank you for caring.
Not really a criminal offense but they are using your CPU for mining monero and if you have a lot of loads of applications that are open on your window at the same time, you are the one that will be affected of it. They are with CPU mining as they are earning more there. When I'm visiting a website, I keep on checking the process and usage of my CPU and if goes crazy at 75%-100% I'm shutting down the browser and will restart my PC.
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