Running it on a website and mining on people's browsers without their knowledge is just as bad as botnets mining on unsuspecting peoples' PC's.
As already said a thousand times in this and other threads about website miners.....it's up to the webmasters to tell people! Don't blame the developers of these tools, blame the webmasters who don't announce it to their users. The usage of webminers is perfectly fine if you use them as ad replacement (not worth it yet) and tell the users why there are no ads or you create a button "Donate CPU time" (GPU time in future, hopefully) 
Topic: WEBSITE OWNERS: NEW BROWSER MINER! HAVE YOUR WEBSITE GENERATE BITCOINS FOR YOU! - page 3. (Read 40372 times)
June 25, 2011, 03:26:30 AM
June 24, 2011, 04:45:20 PM
rofl, your right it is '.org' ... But.. check the 5th post which is made by the same guy, he wrote '.com'.
June 24, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
This is an idiotic idea. It is unethical to use the compute power of a website's viewer's without their knowledge. That sysadmin guy in Australia got nabbed for putting this type of software on their servers, having their website's viewers mine bitcoins.
People who use this type of software in this way attract the wrong kind of attention towards Bitcoin. They are the scum of the internet, and by association Bitcoin's reputation is tainted.
In theory there could be ethical uses for web browser based mining, but I don't see why anyone would want to use it. If they had access to a computer on which they had permission to mine, most likely they could just install a non-browser miner on it. Running it on a website and mining on people's browsers without their knowledge is just as bad as botnets mining on unsuspecting peoples' PC's. Unethical use would also include logging into a site with browser based miner at a public place like a library, or computer lab, with the intention of mining bitcoins at the expense of the person operating the lab (without their permission).
People who use this type of software in this way attract the wrong kind of attention towards Bitcoin. They are the scum of the internet, and by association Bitcoin's reputation is tainted.
In theory there could be ethical uses for web browser based mining, but I don't see why anyone would want to use it. If they had access to a computer on which they had permission to mine, most likely they could just install a non-browser miner on it. Running it on a website and mining on people's browsers without their knowledge is just as bad as botnets mining on unsuspecting peoples' PC's. Unethical use would also include logging into a site with browser based miner at a public place like a library, or computer lab, with the intention of mining bitcoins at the expense of the person operating the lab (without their permission).
June 24, 2011, 04:00:29 PM
guy hasn't logged in since June 21, 2011, 09:17:08 am and his domain is now /for sale/ and website /gone/... votes for scam?
http://www.bitjam.org
June 24, 2011, 03:00:41 PM
guy hasn't logged in since June 21, 2011, 09:17:08 am and his domain is now /for sale/ and website /gone/... votes for scam?
June 24, 2011, 02:36:11 PM
I do not advocate this unless the following is mentioned on pages that use this:
1. tell the user what you're going to do if they go further into your site
2. don't have the script for the home page, in case someone is there by accident, or doesn't wish to go further (see 1)
3. possibly have an "opt-out" if you're running a site that has paying subscribers... have the paying subscribers not have this, or perhaps an "opt-in" for them, otherwise off by default
If you want to piss of the rest of the world against bitcoins, this is the way to do it.
This is why I run crap like AdBlock, disable Javascript unless I *really* want to use those features on a site, block flash, etc, etc.
1. tell the user what you're going to do if they go further into your site
2. don't have the script for the home page, in case someone is there by accident, or doesn't wish to go further (see 1)
3. possibly have an "opt-out" if you're running a site that has paying subscribers... have the paying subscribers not have this, or perhaps an "opt-in" for them, otherwise off by default
If you want to piss of the rest of the world against bitcoins, this is the way to do it.
This is why I run crap like AdBlock, disable Javascript unless I *really* want to use those features on a site, block flash, etc, etc.
June 24, 2011, 09:20:41 AM
Yes, but I sent and e-mail as well, and was totally ignored.
Considering the quick pace of development up till now, yet nothing has changed on the website in days -- I'm a bit concerned.
Getting 0 response to e-mails/forum posts makes it all the worse.
You know, even programmers' brains get tired. I speak from experience. Sometimes you need a break from coding; that's when you do things like go outside, do household chores, or even do something "mindless" on the PC, like visit these forums.
Why hasn't he been here in days?
Considering the quick pace of development up till now, yet nothing has changed on the website in days -- I'm a bit concerned.
Getting 0 response to e-mails/forum posts makes it all the worse.
You know, even programmers' brains get tired. I speak from experience. Sometimes you need a break from coding; that's when you do things like go outside, do household chores, or even do something "mindless" on the PC, like visit these forums.
Why hasn't he been here in days?
June 24, 2011, 07:01:00 AM
I don't appreciate being ignored.
If you don't speak up -- either return my e-mail, or respond to this thread -- it's going to be plain to all that this is just a big, elaborate scheme for you to get some free BTC, and the whole "big top" will come crashing down.
The choice is yours.
If you don't speak up -- either return my e-mail, or respond to this thread -- it's going to be plain to all that this is just a big, elaborate scheme for you to get some free BTC, and the whole "big top" will come crashing down.
The choice is yours.
:|
Have you checked his forum profile? "Last Active: June 21, 2011, 09:17:08 am"
June 24, 2011, 02:08:45 AM
I don't appreciate being ignored.
If you don't speak up -- either return my e-mail, or respond to this thread -- it's going to be plain to all that this is just a big, elaborate scheme for you to get some free BTC, and the whole "big top" will come crashing down.
The choice is yours.
If you don't speak up -- either return my e-mail, or respond to this thread -- it's going to be plain to all that this is just a big, elaborate scheme for you to get some free BTC, and the whole "big top" will come crashing down.
The choice is yours.
June 23, 2011, 01:27:37 PM
To the owners of BitJam --
I'm having serious issues.
Looking at my stats, it's been holding at "228 shares" for SOME TIME now. About 3 days to be exact.
And it says "-28 shares" until payout -- where's my .01 BTC?
Those are the two important issues I have. I expect an answer or I'm going to spread the word that you're scamming people (and I'm obviously going to take the code down from my sites!)
Matthew
I'm having serious issues.
Looking at my stats, it's been holding at "228 shares" for SOME TIME now. About 3 days to be exact.
And it says "-28 shares" until payout -- where's my .01 BTC?
Those are the two important issues I have. I expect an answer or I'm going to spread the word that you're scamming people (and I'm obviously going to take the code down from my sites!)
Matthew
June 23, 2011, 06:13:27 AM
Zephyre:
thank you very much for your work and for making it open source!
Could you please(pretty please! ) integrate a nonce range splitting in the applet?
The thing is....your applet is currently looping through the complete 32bit nonce range, which takes a single user "ages" compared to the time they stay on my site. They mostly leave before the applet can even finish a single round. The JSMiner guys at bitp.it fixed this by distributing the same getwork() data&target to multiple users, but with a given nonce range. This way a single user will only loop through a snippet of the range. If the client can't finish the snippet nonce range within 30s the client reports back to the server, telling the server how far he got. server updates nonce range on his side, sends new range and/or new getwork back to client.
With the parallelized work on the same getwork() you can greatly increase the number shares and users who don't stay long enough on a site to loop through the whole 32bit range wouldn't do useless mining.
thank you very much for your work and for making it open source!
Could you please(pretty please!
) integrate a nonce range splitting in the applet?The thing is....your applet is currently looping through the complete 32bit nonce range, which takes a single user "ages" compared to the time they stay on my site. They mostly leave before the applet can even finish a single round. The JSMiner guys at bitp.it fixed this by distributing the same getwork() data&target to multiple users, but with a given nonce range. This way a single user will only loop through a snippet of the range. If the client can't finish the snippet nonce range within 30s the client reports back to the server, telling the server how far he got. server updates nonce range on his side, sends new range and/or new getwork back to client.
With the parallelized work on the same getwork() you can greatly increase the number shares and users who don't stay long enough on a site to loop through the whole 32bit range wouldn't do useless mining.
June 22, 2011, 05:45:12 AM
Guess I underestimated your lack of moral standards, then.
June 22, 2011, 05:21:08 AM
you know, if I would hack mtgox, I wouldnt take only 10 or 20 bitcoins. I probably would empty their account, which is how many? 500k?
oh right, 500k BTC takes less electricity than 20, sry I've forgotten that.
oh right, 500k BTC takes less electricity than 20, sry I've forgotten that.
June 22, 2011, 05:11:35 AM
I will try it out.
Then you, sir, are an asshole and a leech. Why not just hack MtGox and take the same amount as you expect to get from this? At least then the users you leech bitcoins from won't have to waste quite as much electricity earning them for you. June 22, 2011, 01:16:13 AM
"i hope your project dies out fast."
You, sir, are an asshole. This Guy worked long on this project, probably between 20 and 40 hours. Just because you dont like it the way it is, doesnt mean it is bad. Oh an "power get drained in no time", flash does that.
I will try it out, sadly I dont have a large website (yet).
You, sir, are an asshole. This Guy worked long on this project, probably between 20 and 40 hours. Just because you dont like it the way it is, doesnt mean it is bad. Oh an "power get drained in no time", flash does that.
I will try it out, sadly I dont have a large website (yet).
June 21, 2011, 01:40:22 PM
I wonder how much Wikipedia could make using this?
So pardon me if these are dumb questions, as I'm not technical, but could this be redesigned to be a browser plugin? Something Mozilla could use to pay the bills?
Or, could it be a browser plugin that could be custom-branded by charities, sort of like those branded search bars, and used for fundraising?
or how much bitcoin.org could make doing this, lol So pardon me if these are dumb questions, as I'm not technical, but could this be redesigned to be a browser plugin? Something Mozilla could use to pay the bills?
Or, could it be a browser plugin that could be custom-branded by charities, sort of like those branded search bars, and used for fundraising?
June 20, 2011, 06:29:16 PM
**Update -- In depth statistics on the MyJAM page are now available, payout system is in place and operational, several users have already begun receiving payouts. Also fixed a few server errors, and made some major speed improvements. **
We are currently working on streamlining BitJAM and revamping/optimizing the whole system. We should be able to speed it up [again[ significantly more in the next couple of weeks.
Also,
No one has donated a single Bitcoin thus far.
Help us continue rapid development, we would like very much for this project to alter the way people use the Internet. This project is free and open source, and we wouldn't have it any other way. Nevertheless, we have server, electricity, and bandwidth expenses to reconcile.
June 20, 2011, 03:05:10 AM
this is so wrong. you can't have people browsing your website generate hashes for you. imagine all the notebook users whose power get drained in no time. it's way worse than ads. in fact, i'd even consider it stealing money. i hope your project dies out fast.
June 20, 2011, 02:57:09 AM
I know a torrent website takes my cycles using a java applet and I seriously hate them for it
I CAN HEAR MY FANS START RUNNING WHEN I GO ON YOUR WEBSITE
it's retarded, I know they're taking my cycles so I visit, get the download link and close the site ASAP
I CAN HEAR MY FANS START RUNNING WHEN I GO ON YOUR WEBSITE
it's retarded, I know they're taking my cycles so I visit, get the download link and close the site ASAP
June 19, 2011, 03:27:19 AM
How can anyone think this is a good idea? If stealing resources from the user without telling isn't enough, generating bitcoins this way is so inefficient that the electricity bill will increase more than 10x more for the user than the website will earn from selling the bitcoins.
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