@Benefactor LOL! Welcome to the crazy thread. I was completely kidding about your post in the main thread. I'm for conspiracy / off-topic anytime / anywhere!
I've had so much work to do lately that i haven't had time to post much, but there's plenty going on in the world!
Hopefully, the Feds will codify nullification of federal weed prosecutions and the world financial system won't collapse!
Topic: Weed / Realpolitik / Crypto / Civil Asset Forefeiture and Any Other Chosen Topic - page 10. (Read 18987 times)
December 16, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
December 16, 2014, 09:22:03 PM
Hi, everybody, sorry if I offended anyone. Maybe I should have kept my passion in my pants.
December 14, 2014, 02:00:06 AM
Well we bitched and moaned about being off topic ... now all the fun talk is on this thread 
The IMZ idea of getting local shops to accept $UNO is pretty good.
If we are shopping at the small 'mom&pops" they know you, you sort of have a line of credit informally. That's how community businesses ran. Now if we can drop them $5 in $UNO and say it's good money and more convenient than book keeping ... PLUS hey if the value drops just return it and I'll give you $5 in paper money.
Then they try it and it can become the 'town' coin. And merchants will start playing the market on swings.
$UNO ... better than BTC ... much better than checks or cash or credit cards.
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Now where's all the weed talk? The 420 coin alliance is interesting will let you know if anything big starts to take shape.
The IMZ idea of getting local shops to accept $UNO is pretty good.
If we are shopping at the small 'mom&pops" they know you, you sort of have a line of credit informally. That's how community businesses ran. Now if we can drop them $5 in $UNO and say it's good money and more convenient than book keeping ... PLUS hey if the value drops just return it and I'll give you $5 in paper money.
Then they try it and it can become the 'town' coin. And merchants will start playing the market on swings.
$UNO ... better than BTC ... much better than checks or cash or credit cards.
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Now where's all the weed talk? The 420 coin alliance is interesting will let you know if anything big starts to take shape.
December 13, 2014, 10:02:30 PM
i really think that the dispensories would be well served by getting into crypto. It will help alleviate the hostile banking environment perpetuated by the federal regulators. It is very dangerous for them to carry around / have on hand that much cash.
Wouldn't that cause problems with a whole different set of regulations?
The owners of dispensories complain that the banks will not give them accounts because while weed is legal in CO and WA, weed is still illegal under federal law. The banking regulators are under pressure from the Justice Dept to penalize banks that provide accounts / loans to businesses deemed politically "undesireable." The same stunts were pulled against payday lenders and gun stores for example. As a result, they can't deposit and have to carry around huge amounts of cash.
My point was if the dispensory customers paid in crypto, it would be a lot easier for the businesses to be safe and avoid robbery. The value is stored on the blockchain at whatever location they hide the wallet.
I'm not really sure what regulations you are referring to. As crypto evolves, more and more merchants will accept it and there will be no need to convert it to fiat. For example, in the Unobtanium forum, IMZ lives in Western Australia and his local stores accept $UNO as a medium of exchange.
The dispensories would be well served in accepting any crypto and converting it to $UNO as it is an excellent non-inflationary store of value.
I'm interested to know, though, what regulations you thought would be prohibitive.
December 13, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
Love the idea of this thread. Added it to Uno OP as our official "Off topic" thread. 
Thanks FK, I think it will be a great spot to discuss off-point, but fun topics... December 13, 2014, 08:49:38 PM
i really think that the dispensories would be well served by getting into crypto. It will help alleviate the hostile banking environment perpetuated by the federal regulators. It is very dangerous for them to carry around / have on hand that much cash.
Wouldn't that cause problems with a whole different set of regulations?
December 13, 2014, 08:40:37 PM
Love the idea of this thread. Added it to Uno OP as our official "Off topic" thread.
December 13, 2014, 08:25:01 AM
As the waswas is going full retards, I wanted to take the opportunity to add this post... It's hard to be confronted to people supporting slavery in it's day and age... However nothing that death can't solve. It's simply a question of values. There are what can be considered as common to mankind, and what is against it.
bold are my comments.
http://www.memrijttm.org/islamic-state-isis-releases-pamphlet-on-female-slaves.html.
"Question 1: What is al-sabi?
"Al-Sabi is a woman from among ahl al-harb [the people of war] who has been captured by Muslims.
even if they can nominate the concept of the people of war, they may sadly still widely underestimate the true meaning of this Creed.
Question 2 and 3 are so stupid I move on... they understand nothing about war... those understand who can.
"Question 4: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female captive?
"It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with the female captive. Allah the almighty said: '[Successful are the believers] who guard their chastity, except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are free from blame [Koran 23:5-6]'..."
It's where it's get interesting, because simply put denying any part of all, signifies the annihilation of the All. But simpler why are the members of this organization adding those lies. First why shall they have many wives? What they fail to understand is the meaning of what their right hands possess... how many right hand do they have? one, as such one wife. It's a classical case of a inner group trying to corrupt and inflict pain on Mankind using the cover of a wider group. skiping to the end ala people of war, the salute...
"Question 27: What is the reward for freeing a slave girl?
"Allah the exalted said [in the Koran]: 'And what can make you know what is [breaking through] the difficult pass [hell]? It is the freeing of a slave.' And [the prophet Muhammad] said: 'Whoever frees a believer Allah frees every organ of his body from hellfire.'"
So to reformulate simply those guys don't want to accept that this truth and the one of the previous passage, only exposes them for the filths they are, worthless of nothing, but r&d subjects for the People of War Armies... because let's face it those mof, are ultimately a cohesive group expanding across multiple boundaries, aiming for the enslavement of the world because of their inability to understand a text to who they have been exposed since childhood, demonstrating that those ideologies are supported by older men indicating their rooting in the societal context of the societies accepting to live among such men. However and happily to come back to a more simpler point on the rule of war of the people of war, no organization on earth has jurisdiction on the people of war but the people of war, implying that any legislation may be superseded according to the realities of the imperative of national security and it's legislative framing. Why not move to incendiary munitions, they seem to be ready to burn... and they need improvements (ecofriendly)- shuffling (and on screen
). And it doesn't destroy infrastructure too much... Fighting the People of War across all Continents is a very strange idea... they surely want to die, who wouldn't want to do the same after what they did to others Human Beings? Btw sub lethal weapons too, to add insults to injuries.
they who agree with those values must burn (or what ever, but, and die).
my letters are my flag and they are truly black (as much as we can answered the AIs).
bold are my comments.
Quote
http://www.memrijttm.org/islamic-state-isis-releases-pamphlet-on-female-slaves.html.
"Question 1: What is al-sabi?
"Al-Sabi is a woman from among ahl al-harb [the people of war] who has been captured by Muslims.
even if they can nominate the concept of the people of war, they may sadly still widely underestimate the true meaning of this Creed.
Question 2 and 3 are so stupid I move on... they understand nothing about war... those understand who can.
"Question 4: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female captive?
"It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with the female captive. Allah the almighty said: '[Successful are the believers] who guard their chastity, except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are free from blame [Koran 23:5-6]'..."
It's where it's get interesting, because simply put denying any part of all, signifies the annihilation of the All. But simpler why are the members of this organization adding those lies. First why shall they have many wives? What they fail to understand is the meaning of what their right hands possess... how many right hand do they have? one, as such one wife. It's a classical case of a inner group trying to corrupt and inflict pain on Mankind using the cover of a wider group. skiping to the end ala people of war, the salute...
"Question 27: What is the reward for freeing a slave girl?
"Allah the exalted said [in the Koran]: 'And what can make you know what is [breaking through] the difficult pass [hell]? It is the freeing of a slave.' And [the prophet Muhammad] said: 'Whoever frees a believer Allah frees every organ of his body from hellfire.'"
So to reformulate simply those guys don't want to accept that this truth and the one of the previous passage, only exposes them for the filths they are, worthless of nothing, but r&d subjects for the People of War Armies... because let's face it those mof, are ultimately a cohesive group expanding across multiple boundaries, aiming for the enslavement of the world because of their inability to understand a text to who they have been exposed since childhood, demonstrating that those ideologies are supported by older men indicating their rooting in the societal context of the societies accepting to live among such men. However and happily to come back to a more simpler point on the rule of war of the people of war, no organization on earth has jurisdiction on the people of war but the people of war, implying that any legislation may be superseded according to the realities of the imperative of national security and it's legislative framing. Why not move to incendiary munitions, they seem to be ready to burn... and they need improvements (ecofriendly)- shuffling (and on screen
). And it doesn't destroy infrastructure too much... Fighting the People of War across all Continents is a very strange idea... they surely want to die, who wouldn't want to do the same after what they did to others Human Beings? Btw sub lethal weapons too, to add insults to injuries.they who agree with those values must burn (or what ever, but, and die).
my letters are my flag and they are truly black (as much as we can answered the AIs).
December 08, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
Thought I'd pass along this great article about a true reserve currency...
http://mises.org/library/what-reserve-currency-should-look
A great read for those interested in that sort of thing...
http://mises.org/library/what-reserve-currency-should-look
A great read for those interested in that sort of thing...
December 08, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
Yeah I see UNO that way too. I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
I agree with BitcoinCharlie, that's quite an impressive timeline!
So is NLG in essence a "national cryptocurrency", for use mostly (or only?) in Holland?
Interesting the part about the Guilder (in Dutch it seems it's "Gulden", sounds like it's etymologically related to, um, Gold
that had been in use since something like 1252 -- until the Euro decided to assimilate it (and everything else it could in Europe). So you guys are bringing the Guilder/Gulden back in crypto form -- I love it!Thanks! And yeah, exactly! We are trying to bring the Guilder back. Many people are still nostalgic for the guilder, it was replaced by the Euro obviously. Trying to get it accepted as a regular way of paying for stuff.
And about trading, I'm no big time trader. We are talking a couple of satoshi's of profit here, it's more for fun. I just try and make use of the volatility of BTC, it was bouncing up and down 10% a day sometimes, with UNO lagging behind. Last couple of weeks have been much quieter tho, so not much trading to be done. I think it's better for the ecosystem if the price is relatively stable tho, so I'm quite alright with that. Also, I can only trade when I have time, with two jobs that's not often.
Julian, I'm very interested in how you trade UNO vs BTC.
December 08, 2014, 12:42:59 AM
Check out http://cointelegraph.com/news/113059/california-becomes-second-state-to-try-regulate-bitcoin.
It's really about "Bitcoin regulation", but the last half of the article really hits it.
Bottom line, pot is legal in Colorado, but not according to "federal" regulations. Therefore, banks don't allow any dealings with the businesses that have anything to do with pot. Therefore, crypto is coming into play.
That regulators are focusing on "Bitcoin" means they are missing the point. Let's say they outlaw Bitcoin, what are they going to do then -- outlaw every cryptocurrency that pops up into existence? And should they do, do they think we'll really care? And what, do they really think they can really do anything about it?
Pot has been illegal in the US for many, many decades before I was born (and I'm old). Did that stop pot? Actually, I think illegalization made pot way more glamorous.
"Law" should be made for mankind, not mankind for "the law". Ahh, but there's "democracy" for ya...
PS. We have PPcoin (Peercoin). Should we not also have a PoW DoodooCoin? At least, it might ensure the survival of the feces. And bring about the true New World Odor.
It's really about "Bitcoin regulation", but the last half of the article really hits it.
Bottom line, pot is legal in Colorado, but not according to "federal" regulations. Therefore, banks don't allow any dealings with the businesses that have anything to do with pot. Therefore, crypto is coming into play.
That regulators are focusing on "Bitcoin" means they are missing the point. Let's say they outlaw Bitcoin, what are they going to do then -- outlaw every cryptocurrency that pops up into existence? And should they do, do they think we'll really care? And what, do they really think they can really do anything about it?
Pot has been illegal in the US for many, many decades before I was born (and I'm old). Did that stop pot? Actually, I think illegalization made pot way more glamorous.
"Law" should be made for mankind, not mankind for "the law". Ahh, but there's "democracy" for ya...
PS. We have PPcoin (Peercoin). Should we not also have a PoW DoodooCoin? At least, it might ensure the survival of the feces. And bring about the true New World Odor.
December 06, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
Yeah I see UNO that way too. I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
I agree with BitcoinCharlie, that's quite an impressive timeline!
So is NLG in essence a "national cryptocurrency", for use mostly (or only?) in Holland?
Interesting the part about the Guilder (in Dutch it seems it's "Gulden", sounds like it's etymologically related to, um, Gold
that had been in use since something like 1252 -- until the Euro decided to assimilate it (and everything else it could in Europe). So you guys are bringing the Guilder/Gulden back in crypto form -- I love it!Thanks! And yeah, exactly! We are trying to bring the Guilder back. Many people are still nostalgic for the guilder, it was replaced by the Euro obviously. Trying to get it accepted as a regular way of paying for stuff.
And about trading, I'm no big time trader. We are talking a couple of satoshi's of profit here, it's more for fun. I just try and make use of the volatility of BTC, it was bouncing up and down 10% a day sometimes, with UNO lagging behind. Last couple of weeks have been much quieter tho, so not much trading to be done. I think it's better for the ecosystem if the price is relatively stable tho, so I'm quite alright with that. Also, I can only trade when I have time, with two jobs that's not often.
December 04, 2014, 08:57:25 PM
I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
Lol now THAT is interesting to me! So without divulging too many of your trade secrets, how does that work? You play the swings on btc and wind up buying uno for longer periods of holding? I suck at trading, i am not looking to judge or criticize what and how you do it, just looking to gather as much info as i can from "real" people. Trying to learn!
Me three...
December 04, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Yeah I see UNO that way too. I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
I agree with BitcoinCharlie, that's quite an impressive timeline!
So is NLG in essence a "national cryptocurrency", for use mostly (or only?) in Holland?
Interesting the part about the Guilder (in Dutch it seems it's "Gulden", sounds like it's etymologically related to, um, Gold
that had been in use since something like 1252 -- until the Euro decided to assimilate it (and everything else it could in Europe). So you guys are bringing the Guilder/Gulden back in crypto form -- I love it! December 04, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
Lol now THAT is interesting to me! So without divulging too many of your trade secrets, how does that work? You play the swings on btc and wind up buying uno for longer periods of holding? I suck at trading, i am not looking to judge or criticize what and how you do it, just looking to gather as much info as i can from "real" people. Trying to learn!
December 04, 2014, 11:18:30 AM
I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
Lol now THAT is interesting to me! So without divulging too many of your trade secrets, how does that work? You play the swings on btc and wind up buying uno for longer periods of holding? I suck at trading, i am not looking to judge or criticize what and how you do it, just looking to gather as much info as i can from "real" people. Trying to learn!
December 03, 2014, 05:56:27 PM
Very impressive!
December 03, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
Yeah I see UNO that way too. I got into UNO because of daytrading BTC, UNO is the stable 'element' I daytrade againt. I really do think it has a rightful place in the crypto universe.
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
NLG has a different target: it must be a coin for daily use. The team is working really hard on that. Check the timeline of the achievements so far: https://timeline.guldencoin.com/
December 03, 2014, 04:52:58 PM
I've got quite a few different coins. The usual suspects like BTC, PPC, DOGE, XJO, LTC, etc.
However, I have been most involved with the UNO community. The coin is over a year old now and has had a steady climb in value during that time. It survived a pump and dump by a whale, etc. Most of the community are HODLrs who are looking five years down the line...
There are some really interesting in-house trading options. You can check them out at http://tinyurl.com/UNO-EX There are also some very bright minds there who are interested in a true store of value as opposed to the regular pump and dumps. We see UNO as used for a store of value as opposed to a daily transactional coin. A savings tool if you will.
I'll have to check of NLG.
Thanks again for your support of UNO!
However, I have been most involved with the UNO community. The coin is over a year old now and has had a steady climb in value during that time. It survived a pump and dump by a whale, etc. Most of the community are HODLrs who are looking five years down the line...
There are some really interesting in-house trading options. You can check them out at http://tinyurl.com/UNO-EX There are also some very bright minds there who are interested in a true store of value as opposed to the regular pump and dumps. We see UNO as used for a store of value as opposed to a daily transactional coin. A savings tool if you will.
I'll have to check of NLG.
Thanks again for your support of UNO!
December 03, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
Well, NLG of course! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/na-554412
THE best country coin! 50+ merchants accepting, including offline merchants. Fair distribution. 1.7 billion coins to be created. Android wallet, iOS in the making. Check guldencoin.com.
Unfortunately we are being raped by clevermining fo quite a while now. They get all the low diff blocks.
Our dev has made a simulator for cryptocoin algo's to be tested, we are working with that now to find a proper solution. When the simulator is fully finished it will be released for all cryptos to use.
Besides NLG I have some BTC because of cloudmining. I don't think BTC has a bright future though, just like AOL and MySpace didn't have, at least not in the long run.
Thanks for asking!
What coins do you hold?
THE best country coin! 50+ merchants accepting, including offline merchants. Fair distribution. 1.7 billion coins to be created. Android wallet, iOS in the making. Check guldencoin.com.
Unfortunately we are being raped by clevermining fo quite a while now. They get all the low diff blocks.
Our dev has made a simulator for cryptocoin algo's to be tested, we are working with that now to find a proper solution. When the simulator is fully finished it will be released for all cryptos to use.
Besides NLG I have some BTC because of cloudmining. I don't think BTC has a bright future though, just like AOL and MySpace didn't have, at least not in the long run.
Thanks for asking!
What coins do you hold?
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