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newbie
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April 13, 2019, 07:09:53 AM
#36
A discussion topic proving that WEG Bank famous partnership with TokenPay is a scam. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tokenpay-is-a-scam-5131406
legendary
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April 12, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
#35
So are you ever gonna post any evidence to back your claims or are you just going to keep throwing heaps of shit around and see what sticks? So far you've posted nothing substantial about anything, certainly nothing that would back your claims of this project being a scam.

I have posted the pieces of evidence and facts I found on page 1 on this Bitcointalk thread discussing the WEG Bank. The only answers I have received are just "paper facts" that don't make any sense, etc. The only thing I can prove all the followings:

OK then prove it. Don't just retype what you wrote in BIG RED FONT. Produce actual evidence. Post links, screenshots, anything besides things you can just make up off the top of your head. That's what this section is for, not rampant FUD on hyperblast. Anybody can say anything about anybody. Doesn't make it true without evidence. What you're doing isn't exposing a scam, you're just smearing a business.
newbie
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April 12, 2019, 09:27:14 PM
#34
So are you ever gonna post any evidence to back your claims or are you just going to keep throwing heaps of shit around and see what sticks? So far you've posted nothing substantial about anything, certainly nothing that would back your claims of this project being a scam.

I have posted the pieces of evidence and facts I found on page 1 on this Bitcointalk thread discussing the WEG Bank. The only answers I have received are just "paper facts" that don't make any sense, etc. The only thing I can prove all the followings:

1. NO CUSTOMERS
2. NO PRODUCTS
3. NO BANKING SERVICE
4. NO INTERNET BANKING SERVICE
5. NO CRYPTO RELATED PRODUCTS OR SERVICES
6. NO SOFTWARE DEVELOPED
7. NO PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER REAL BANKS
8. TOKENPAY PARTNERSHIP DIDN'T PRODUCE ANY PRODUCT OR SERVICE
9. LITECOIN PARTNERSHIP DIDN'T PRODUCE ANY PRODUCT OR SERVICE
10. LITECOIN FOUNDATION RECEIVED 9.9% (now 7.5% of shares) FOR FREE, WHILE TOKENPAY HAD TO PAY, AND NIMIQ HAD TO PAY MONEY. HOW COULD A BANK GIVE SHARES FOR FREE TO A FOUNDATION THAT DIDN'T PRODUCE ANY PRODUCE OR SERVICE WITH THE BANK ITSELF.
11. NO REAL SERVICE OR PRODUCT PRODUCED, PROTOTYPED OR TESTED WITH AGORA TRADE.
12. WEG BANK WILL CHANGE ITS NAME IN MAY TO AGORA BANK

Everything is a fucking big lie. They are only interested to scam people launching a new ICO (FACT: AGORA ICO and NAME CHANGE TO AGORA BANK)
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coinBusiness / Gapur Ozdoev
April 12, 2019, 08:20:41 AM
#33
None of your allegations have any proof (and you sure are not delivering any). You just shout out red texts without facts.

Fact is, WEG is one of many modern online-only banks which Germany now allows and registers as regular banks, meaning they can do everything that a traditional bank can do, too. These online banks still have to adhere to regulatory oversight, have a board, and do regular reports on their activity. Other reputable online-only banks in Germany include N26 and DKB, among others.

Fact is, WEG lists their products on their website. Right there on the homepage. Yes, it's a small local bank, but they do mostly financing, investments and consulting (as stated on their website), which is usually not general-population-facing, but rather targeted towards institutions. Thus no big fancy website, as most business is handled face-to-face anyway.

Fact is, as pointed out earlier in the source thread, their yearly reports actually specify an increase in capital, thus implying a healthy profit.

Fact is, they are partnered with real, registered and law-abiding organizations such as Litecoin, agora.trade and Nimiq.

Fact is, at least some partners bought their share in the bank, it was not 'given away'. Again, no proof for your claim. (yes, this is actually insider info, sue me.)

Fact is, lots of companies have '0-net-income' for tax purposes. It's usual business and within the regulatory tax framework. Regular people are not too happy about it, but the government made
  Your account tells me that you are lying and defending scammers. Let's publish our real names and personalities on Twitter and hold a public discussion. We will both present our arguments to the public. Please email me as soon as possible.
newbie
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April 12, 2019, 06:53:38 AM
#32
While 8.) is total nonsense (I'm a web developer and we ONLY build CMS websites for our customers, anything else would not be usable for them)... thanks for your research. I found them to be suspicious right when Litecoin announced their partnership with them. They didn't even have an SSL certificate. A fucking bank. WTF

The bank is a fucking scam. They don't offer any kind of service online for its customer. No internet banking, no ATMs and no products. I can't even register as a customer. It is a paper company that exists only in papers. They don't have any kind of customer service, dashboard or anything. No customer support because it doesn't have any customer. The CEO dude just found an easy money market namely crypto. He created his twitter account 2 months ago, he started twitting about crypto, exchanges, banks etc. He became a crypto guru instantly. Fake it till you make it. Perfect example. He succeeded. He scammed TokenPay for some money, and now they scammed nimiq for at least 1 million dollars without giving anything in return (only shares). I know him, and I do know that he is interested into running the ICO with Agora Bank. This is the reason why he is willing to rename his bank to Agora Bank to start this partnership and launch, of course, a new ICO.
legendary
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Encrypted Money, Baby!
April 10, 2019, 02:23:26 AM
#31
While 8.) is total nonsense (I'm a web developer and we ONLY build CMS websites for our customers, anything else would not be usable for them)... thanks for your research. I found them to be suspicious right when Litecoin announced their partnership with them. They didn't even have an SSL certificate. A fucking bank. WTF
newbie
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April 09, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
#30
weg bank scam scam. they want to create their own ico. gud luck with that agora bank. some people might got scammed by nimiq once but they won't get scammed by the same group again. eq i got scammed mining this shitcoin with cpu in browser then in sushi pool

Chill dude, chill. Nimiq scammed us once, but now we are smart as we unmasked their shady operations including price manipulation, drug usage, and money laundering
newbie
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April 08, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
#29
weg bank scam scam. they want to create their own ico. gud luck with that agora bank. some people might got scammed by nimiq once but they won't get scammed by the same group again. eq i got scammed mining this shitcoin with cpu in browser then in sushi pool
newbie
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April 06, 2019, 05:04:07 PM
#28
Good finding nimiqshitcoin. Anybody sees that they want to hide all these dark facts and secrets. They are shady as f**k. They don't have a product or a customer who is using any of their services. Their only customers are their investors. It looks like a ponzi scheme. Raising funds from ICOs in order to hold other ICOs.

I do feel the same that these germans are running a ponzi ICO game. In total, the guys from team nimiq and agora trade run at least 4 ICOs that I know of. After they release their stuff, they have abandoned the project and move on building another demo launching another ICO. No profitable products and no working services they managed to launch. Just some barely working prototypes that nobody is using them.
newbie
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April 06, 2019, 09:52:03 AM
#27
Good finding nimiqshitcoin. Anybody sees that they want to hide all these dark facts and secrets. They are shady as f**k. They don't have a product or a customer who is using any of their services. Their only customers are their investors. It looks like a ponzi scheme. Raising funds from ICOs in order to hold other ICOs.
legendary
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April 06, 2019, 12:44:33 AM
#26
^^ you forgot to make your font bigger in addition to red bolding it, now your words are ineffective.  Roll Eyes

Just kidding, they've always been ineffective.

Seriously, what is up with your utter hatred of Nimiq? The coin is back up to October levels and its market cap is far higher than its ever been. Don't claim to be an investor; if you were, you'd be happy with the rebound and you wouldn't seek to shit on your investment at every turn.

Really what you are doing is childish and is obviously serving no purpose. this coin continues to climb in price despite your best attempts to destroy its reputation. Maybe you should find a better hobby.
newbie
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April 05, 2019, 07:35:48 PM
#25




Dear "Matthias von Hauff",

It is clear that you don't want to answer to any of the questions me and other people on bitcointalk's nimiq topic asked. You just try to hide your dirty laundries by paying me for "a night in a luxurious hotel" and "2 ways ticket to Munich".  Instead of showing us proofs and giving proveable facts, you are just trying to bribe me to stop questioning your bank and your actions with agora trade. Probably all this round trip would be paid from the 1 million dollar acquisition from nimiq team. It is clear to everybody that you are interested in the crypto only for profit as your decision to go with crypto started only 1 year ago. Your personal twitter was created just a few months ago, started to bitching being a mindblowing blockchain guru. You are the best example: of "fake it hard until you might make it". You are a fake person with a fake company with fake partnerships. Everything is fake about you. In your case, I can guarantee you that you will never make it. You are shady in your operations, your bank is a fucking PAPER company with no real customers and no value. I don't understand how you managed to convince these stupid developers from nimiq to handle you over 1 million for nothing. Show me or shut your mouth. Smart people know everything about TokenPay, about paper company WEG Bank AG and your deal with Agora.trade. We are smart and we know that Agora.trade is planning an ICO with their "demo" project, exactly the same story as nimiq. But, I can guarantee you that nobody will invest in this scam, and you will not make much from it.

BTW: Do you actually have an employee in your company except you?
Do you have a customer that is using any of your services except nimiq & the scammers from tokenpay ?
newbie
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April 05, 2019, 02:28:02 PM
#24
Dear "nimiqshitcoin",

I take great encouragement from the fact that - despite of our differences - we definitely agree on your self assessment.

While I have offered you nothing but transparency, fairness and hospitality, you have chosen to respond by embarrassing yourself with another infantile outburst of blog diarrhea.

While my pity is all with you for having to put up with yourself 24/7, I chose to spend my own time more wisely.

However, my sincere invitation remains. You may chose to accept it as a man or decline it as a loser. The choice is yours to be made.

Sincerely

Matthias von Hauff
newbie
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April 05, 2019, 12:32:03 PM
#23
Dear "Matthias von Hauff",

Please allow to introduce myself. I am one of these stupid assholes who got scammed of over $100,000 by nimiq SCAM ICO. You are just trying to do an ICO yourself with nimiq and agora.trade. That is why you are changing it's name to Agora Bank.

You and your company, the so-called WEG Bank are total scams. I am not interested into getting "a plane ticket" from you ( cuz your company is not operational). I got scammed of over $100,000 investing into these scammers from Nimiq. After 2 years of holding the coins, Robin Linus comes and tells us: "dudes, shit happened, I got addicted to cannabis and I couldn't work since the launch of main net. More, my colleagues turned this project into a scam to milk out all the ICO money". Then, they paid Robin Linus to be silent, as we never saw a word from him since then. That is the CEO of nimiq who said that the team is just scamming us, the investors. They were proved to do multiple price manipulations, shady operations ( buying coins from market, Robin Linus accused them of running a trading bot to create 99% of fake volumes), etc. They have even admitted of running trading bots, after Robin Linus accused them publicly.

I am not interested in to your shitty airplane ticket to buy my silence, exactly like how team nimiq bought Robin Linus' silence. Just answers my questions with provable facts:

1. Did your so called "bank" made any progress with TokenPay. Almost a year passed since the initial talks with TokenPay CEO started, and almost half a year since the TokenPay signed a partnership with TokenPay. Did your company or You developed any service, any product and it push it to testing or real world?

2. How many branches you have in Germany or world wide? If you don't have any branch, why you call yourself a bank?

3. How many online services or products offer to its customers?  Crypto is online, is not done by phone calls like in Wolf of Wallstreet investing into real estates.

4. How many services or products are acquired by your customers? How do they acquire these services or products, if they are any?

5. Do you offer: "internet banking".

6. How can I registered and become a customer of your service? Is there any application.

7. Do you really have any customer who is buying any of your service or product. Don't tell me that that you have 3 stupid clients called: TokenPay scam coin, Litecoin Foundation and Nimiq shitcoin.

8. How many people are employed at your so called bank? Are there more than 5 people in your so called bank?

9. Do you have any real partners with any other REAL bank world-wide. Can you prove a such partnership?

10. What is the evaluation of your company. If nimiq acquired 9.9% of your bank for 1 million dollar, it means your ENTIRE scam bank is worth less than 10 million dollar. But, we do know that the evaluation was less.

11. The website is a fucking CMS theme. Do you have any option for your customer to use your platform. Does your website offer any service?

12. All your Google Maps reviews are totally fake made by the TokenPay bounty hunters who got scammed of over 1 million dollar.


btw: i guess i will have to create a new topic or change the topic's name to Agora Bank scam
newbie
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April 04, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
#22
Dear "nimiqshitcoin",

please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Matthias von Hauff, I am the CEO of WEG Bank AG which you accuse in the wildest terms of being a "scam", "shady" and other pleasentries.

Under normal circumstances, I would not even credit your outburst of negativity with an answer. However, you have brought such amusement to my day that I only feel it fitting to return the favour. I hereby cordially invite you to visit us in our head quarters in Ottobrunn, which is just to the south of Munich. We will fly you to Munich from wherever you might be, grant you a one night stay in a luxury hotel and give you the opportunity to ask any questions you may have in a one hour time slot with me personally. We can gladly go through the accounts of the bank or any other documentation you would like to see. You will be meeting the team, have lunch with us and then be flown back to where you want.

Of course, speaking of having lunch: There is no such thing as a free lunch as we all know. In return for our generous invitation, you will consent to us filming your entire visit and to uploade it on youtube. You will also need to provide adequate proof, that you are in fact "nimiqshitcoin".

I am very much looking forward to your reply.

Sincerely

Matthias von Hauff

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Made a mistake on selling account ddnt read rules
April 02, 2019, 10:46:35 PM
#21
lul youre just a rektard  Grin Grin Grin
success of the project means more haters Cheesy
XVG LTC and nimiq as partners kucoin partnership is on the talks while you waste your time posting fake articles / evidence  goodluck  Cheesy
newbie
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March 22, 2019, 08:55:09 AM
#20
Lads and Gent, I just got another leak to prove the WEG Bank Scam and nimiq fake partnership. The "BIG" WEG Bank AG (which has no customers, no subsidiaries, no products, no services and no real partnerships with any other bank), decided to change its name to "Agorabank". What the fuck? They do this changing WEG Bank AG's name according to their most important partner, agora trade. The issue is that agoratrade has 0 customers, has 0 revenue, has 0 users on telegram, discord and reddit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2Q1doDUkAE9ezI.jpg:large

Why would a normal bank change its name to a partner with 0 users, 0 revenue and 0 customers? That partner announced only an ICO!
Why would a normal bank give for free 10% of its share to a non for profit ?

All these could have made by a bank only if the bank has 0 value or it is a scam with a special agenda.

So, be prepared. All these are made to facilitate agoratrade ways to launch a new ICO and raise millions of dollars from stupid ICO investors like us. I have personally invested over $100K into nimiq scam and my investment is -98.7%.


Prepare your pocket for a new ICO!!!
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Made a mistake on selling account ddnt read rules
March 14, 2019, 07:28:58 AM
#19
There is no product or online banking service. I have looked on the website, and I couldn't see a login page to check the status for a bank or something like that. The Bank doesn't offer internet banking. The WEG BANK AG scam it is just a simple web page showing some information in the German language. That's all. All the revisions from Google Maps are fake made by TokenPay bounty hunters.

>Hurr durr I can't read German so it must be a scam

First of all, please stop writing in a bold red font. It doesn't validate your claims.
Also, why are all of your 176 posts Nimiq FUD, sold too early?
FRFC summed it up pretty good.
WEG is a bank on the smaller side (had 6-10m€ capital) mostly focused on doing construction financing, loans and accounts.
They clearly don't offer online banking and their site is just presenting their services and contact.
Yes, the site is based on a template. Did you expect them to serve a WebGL + CSS3 Chrome experiment?
As common with smaller banks business is done directly over mail or phone and clients are mostly from the area.
Lastly, do you seriously expect a bank to disclose their clients?

So nothing out of the ordinary so far.
If you're that sceptical, just call the bank and ask them yourselves. I'm sure they speak English.
All the new crypto collaborations are still very much in-progress and there's little information available yet.
It's way too early to start a witch-hunt.

To all the people just reading through this FUD thread,
please educate yourselves through unbiased sources.
German AGs are public limited companies which means their financial statistics are open to the public.

https://www.northdata.de/WEG+Bank+AG,+Ottobrunn/Amtsgericht+München+HRB+215846

A Google translate of their business page should also be enough.

The bank simply doesn't exist. WEG Bank is just a ghost company with no employees, products, services or customers. The partnership with TokenPay (another  project that was proved by their community to be a scam) did it finalize with a service or product developed ?  7 Months have passed almost and nothing came out from the partnership.... nothing, just some buzz words and press releases deceiving newcomers to buy the dip.  This is exactly what nimiq also has done. They did a press release with Agora Trade hoping that stupid investors will buy their trash coin as well.

did you even go to the address of WEG bank to justify your accusation? when you said ghost bank, that means its not real, prove it with photos. when you google WEG bank its all legit. i think your one of the people who panic sold at low. yes buy high sell low haha in short got REKT
newbie
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March 11, 2019, 07:11:55 AM
#18
There is no product or online banking service. I have looked on the website, and I couldn't see a login page to check the status for a bank or something like that. The Bank doesn't offer internet banking. The WEG BANK AG scam it is just a simple web page showing some information in the German language. That's all. All the revisions from Google Maps are fake made by TokenPay bounty hunters.

>Hurr durr I can't read German so it must be a scam

First of all, please stop writing in a bold red font. It doesn't validate your claims.
Also, why are all of your 176 posts Nimiq FUD, sold too early?
FRFC summed it up pretty good.
WEG is a bank on the smaller side (had 6-10m€ capital) mostly focused on doing construction financing, loans and accounts.
They clearly don't offer online banking and their site is just presenting their services and contact.
Yes, the site is based on a template. Did you expect them to serve a WebGL + CSS3 Chrome experiment?
As common with smaller banks business is done directly over mail or phone and clients are mostly from the area.
Lastly, do you seriously expect a bank to disclose their clients?

So nothing out of the ordinary so far.
If you're that sceptical, just call the bank and ask them yourselves. I'm sure they speak English.
All the new crypto collaborations are still very much in-progress and there's little information available yet.
It's way too early to start a witch-hunt.

To all the people just reading through this FUD thread,
please educate yourselves through unbiased sources.
German AGs are public limited companies which means their financial statistics are open to the public.

https://www.northdata.de/WEG+Bank+AG,+Ottobrunn/Amtsgericht+München+HRB+215846

A Google translate of their business page should also be enough.

The bank simply doesn't exist. WEG Bank is just a ghost company with no employees, products, services or customers. The partnership with TokenPay (another  project that was proved by their community to be a scam) did it finalize with a service or product developed ?  7 Months have passed almost and nothing came out from the partnership.... nothing, just some buzz words and press releases deceiving newcomers to buy the dip.  This is exactly what nimiq also has done. They did a press release with Agora Trade hoping that stupid investors will buy their trash coin as well.
newbie
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March 10, 2019, 12:47:55 AM
#17
There is no product or online banking service. I have looked on the website, and I couldn't see a login page to check the status for a bank or something like that. The Bank doesn't offer internet banking. The WEG BANK AG scam it is just a simple web page showing some information in the German language. That's all. All the revisions from Google Maps are fake made by TokenPay bounty hunters.

>Hurr durr I can't read German so it must be a scam

First of all, please stop writing in a bold red font. It doesn't validate your claims.
Also, why are all of your 176 posts Nimiq FUD, sold too early?
FRFC summed it up pretty good.
WEG is a bank on the smaller side (had 6-10m€ capital) mostly focused on doing construction financing, loans and accounts.
They clearly don't offer online banking and their site is just presenting their services and contact.
Yes, the site is based on a template. Did you expect them to serve a WebGL + CSS3 Chrome experiment?
As common with smaller banks business is done directly over mail or phone and clients are mostly from the area.
Lastly, do you seriously expect a bank to disclose their clients?

So nothing out of the ordinary so far.
If you're that sceptical, just call the bank and ask them yourselves. I'm sure they speak English.
All the new crypto collaborations are still very much in-progress and there's little information available yet.
It's way too early to start a witch-hunt.

To all the people just reading through this FUD thread,
please educate yourselves through unbiased sources.
German AGs are public limited companies which means their financial statistics are open to the public.

https://www.northdata.de/WEG+Bank+AG,+Ottobrunn/Amtsgericht+München+HRB+215846

A Google translate of their business page should also be enough.
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