repeatedly the bounty hunters ask about scam project or not. but the definitive answer is we don't know it. because once again I explain to you , who knows the project is fake or not just the owner of the project itself. even a bounty manager doesn't know the project he's handling. so what we can do is choose a project based on how we feel.
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How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this
You can't be 100% sure whether the project is legit or not even if you had done enough research from all the perspective that is why we can avoid investing on new projects if you don't want to lose any of your money.But when a project shown their real face then its hard for them to get away after scamming so look at the project team members first before going in to invest. 
I will still emphasis on looking at the team of the project. If the team are credible you can be confident of safety, I believe this is where scam project start from,they try to put up a good identity. If they dont have the name they look for recognized crypto present that can be attractive. After the last ICO saga and prosecuted member of cryptocurrency in US, People have been careful in supporting ICO/IEO starting from Vitalik, He distance himself from any startups.
How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this
There is a good platform on which you can choose a project that is clearly not fraudulent.Here is the link:https://icodrops.com/ I'm always looking for projects here. mainly is research. several other factors such as the positive reputation of the developer in managing the previous project, having a real product or in accordance with the project work map, having a large partner, MYP project and many other things that can determine the project is feasible or not.
I have seen many project have MVP and are used by many people. But after they finished their ICO and IEO, they quickly became a scam. Now it is hard for us to distinguish the scam projects because they are so smart, everything is perfect until they scam.Let me come back to the topic; Now a days, people have started demanding bounty rewards will in advance so that they believe they can reduce the chances of getting scammed at the end, then devs also do agree to pay but that project never hit exchanges but bounty hunters will keep on waiting. This is how smartly scammers are working these days.
Manipulating markets are very older way of scamming which is happening everywhere and we cannot do anything about that. So, I am afraid altcoin scammers also may continue regardless of how quicker we are taking precaution steps.
No matter how much careful you try to be still things happen, some projects go dead even though their team had good intentions in the start. That's why only invest what you can afford to lose.
When you are careful in choosing campaigns and new coins for investments then the chances for not getting scammed is more compared to choosing them randomly. Still anything may happen at the end because we cannot do anything about accidental failure of projects. Please note there are big differences between failure of projects and well-organised scams.Now it is hard for us to distinguish the scam projects because they are so smart, everything is perfect until they scam.
This industry is getting old and people are becoming too smart but for negative reasons. Honestly identifying scams have become too difficult. This is why I have decided not to risk my money in any new coins but only with bitcoins. I'm not sure how many people have already decided like that. 
mainly is research. several other factors such as the positive reputation of the developer in managing the previous project, having a real product or in accordance with the project work map, having a large partner, MYP project and many other things that can determine the project is feasible or not.
I have seen many project have MVP and are used by many people. But after they finished their ICO and IEO, they quickly became a scam. Now it is hard for us to distinguish the scam projects because they are so smart, everything is perfect until they scam. 
Part of the means through which scam projects are caught are either through plagiarized whitepaper or fake team, but I have now noticed that a lot of them will try to outsmart in these areas. They might decide not to have a voluminous whitepaper. Some of them even write just one-page whitepaper to escape being caught through that means.
Well to be completely fair,,, not everybody needs a whitepaper at all. But I agree. Just because you have 1 pager does not mean you are good (neither does have 100 pages). But they should have enough to show us what they are all about and let us admit it, most people simply do not have anything useful.
mainly is research. several other factors such as the positive reputation of the developer in managing the previous project, having a real product or in accordance with the project work map, having a large partner, MYP project and many other things that can determine the project is feasible or not.
Intense research is needed to escape well organized scam projects, there should be a flaw somehow, either by asking top notch questions that can get you banned on Telegram group or going through the project github.
How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this
You are right scammers are upgrading their tactics so it's pretty difficult to trust new projects right now as we will not know whether they are really genuine with their goal or they are only after with the money. There are many who fall victim to this kind of tactics already like some projects out there that almost reach their hard cap but in the end they fade slowly, leaving the investors hanging. I can't really point out a good counter measure to them not only if there will be government that will create a counter measure to them and put those people in jail once they will be found guilty.
No matter how much careful you try to be still things happen, some projects go dead even though their team had good intentions in the start. That's why only invest what you can afford to lose.
It didn't really help even after the tokens were already listed in the exchange the team can still become a scam in the end and the project can still do the exit scam. None are even going to try to sue the team because it already became normal in crypto that even the exchanges are doing it, we still could just go on.
Yes, you're right. Some projects are already listed but it's end up with nothing and turned into another scam. They should come up with different ideas to overcome events like Btc suddenly drop and other situation that will critically affect their projects. Nowadays, some scam projects are most likely to rely on copying successful projects then editing the context of the platform. One thing for sure this scam projects are without a strong team and sometimes there no project team at all.Its a very organize scam that exchanges took part of it, they do have a role in this scamming spree. They add the token in the exchanges which they partner up with the team to which they can then dump what they have to the market. This is why some projects are also creating their own p2p exchange to solo the scam, they don't have to partner with exchanges who will take percentage of the total scammed amount.
It is very difficult to totally protect ourselves against scam project because even among ourselves we have scammers. Even those that are providing a way to stoping scam projects are scammers themselves, so tell me how do we protect ourselves against scam project.
Why is it so difficult? I dont know if this true cause being scam will depend on how you react on these scammers trick. OP's asking a wise question because those scammers are actually intelligent and have broad knowledge of blockchain and cryptocurrency. But of course, they are not perfect there still a time they can be caught and those are the task you need to do as a responsible hunter. Search and do study if those projects are legit. There are plenty of ways to know it.
How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this
Then don't invest, simply as that. Just became a holder of trusted coins, like Ethereum or Bitcoin so that you will not be scam by those pretending to be a good project in the beginning but later on they will just disappear. Yes, I will agree that they are well organised and very crafty and good at hiding their true intentions.That's why as much as you DYOR, you can't really figure it out at the start until it's too late. Personally, I already stop investing on ICO/IEO/STO or whatever, I don't want to risk anymore. Just be a holder!!!
It is very difficult to totally protect ourselves against scam project because even among ourselves we have scammers. Even those that are providing a way to stoping scam projects are scammers themselves, so tell me how do we protect ourselves against scam project.
How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? ~~
For projects proven to be a scam, there will usually be a warning from an experienced member here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0Actually this is difficult to explain, not only need "experience" but also "luck". Projects that initially look good and promise can fail because they are less attractive to the market or choose the wrong strategy. Projects that initially seem usually even doubtful, can be extraordinary and profitable. That is why the crypto world is full of surprises.
The thing that you need to make sure that, whatever we do and choose will definitely bring positive or negative impacts. That is the risk and the consequences that we must understand.
You can trust people who are good at sniffing out scam as well, I know there are not that many around and many people to fall victim however check out everywhere else online and you will see comments about the project which are basically decentralized and that way you can find more reasonable people.
For example I do not trust bitcointalk about a project anymore, many people are paid and that is why I do not think they are really all that credible, however I do go to reddit and there I find people who are more free to talk about whatever they want without having any problem, even if mods of a certain subreddit bans people for saying bad stuff, you can find other subreddits who are more free and that way you can find peoples real comments there.
For example I do not trust bitcointalk about a project anymore, many people are paid and that is why I do not think they are really all that credible, however I do go to reddit and there I find people who are more free to talk about whatever they want without having any problem, even if mods of a certain subreddit bans people for saying bad stuff, you can find other subreddits who are more free and that way you can find peoples real comments there.
How can we safe ourselves from well organized scam projects? Some projects are so well crafted and in the end they scam people, to my own understand research doesn't help here at all, use case, whitepaper, team, every thing are so real and make sense, please give advice about this
Many times they organize projects in such a way that people do not understand their purpose. There are many popular websites that list scam projects in exchange for money. When listed on the popular website, hype is created so that people can easily trust them. The result is a scam ! In my opinion, investors should not invest in any kind of project now.
Research does help in some cases when you research extensively and dig deeper into the project like who are related to the project, developer's previous track records, what purpose the project stands for etc. Who gives just sweet promises are definitely scammy one. It's hard though.
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