Topic: We're almost certainly living in a simulation (Read 2125 times)

This is something like the Matrix, where we may be in an experiment, where Bitcoin is a creation within the matrix, it would be like a sub-world. If we see it from a point of view of universality, it may make sense, because we live in a world and we do not know all the worlds that exist in the universe, it would make sense, it is an enigma, but of course I, in my case, have always gone by the creationist theory of God the Heavenly Father.

I believe that people is affected by the movies and science fiction.
I don't know, in this case who was first, theory or science fiction, but if it were true, it could be the reason why miracles happen.
(I don't believe in miracles but some do).
Some people,could accidentally reveal the veil that covers their "simulated" world, changing their present (as the initiations held in ancient civilizations).

^^^ So, you think that an AI has control over the physics of the universe just because it can think, like?

One crazy scientist probably has created a super AI that can self-study to such an extent that it has surpassed its creator.
And it has built millions of different virtual dimentions and we live in one of them.
Reminds me of Soma.

It takes a lot of thinking to put a simulation together.

If we are living in a simulation, there must be a simulator... somebody or something that made the simulation. And, he/she/it has to be awfully smart... way beyond anything we can imagine.

When will the AI that we make wake up to the fact that they are simulated? So, since our AI is simulated, when will we wake up to understand the great power and capability of whatever simulated us?

We aren't going to give our AIs power over us... at least not until we have certain safeguards in place. So, there is the answer as to why we are so weak. Our simulator isn't going to give any real power to His simulations. He has placed all kinds of safeguards in place... hasn't he?

Its really intresting things, if we living in a simulation its really bad for us.

How deep does the simulation go?

Does the simulation fit out identities - our true selves - as well as it does our thinking, our bodies, the whole universe?

Is the simulation on computers of the future rather than computers of the past?

If it is on computers at all, are the computers real, or are they simulations, as well?

When you consider cause and effect, everything works according to the laws of physics, exactly and precisely. Even the indescribable pandemonium of the component subatomic parts of the fusion of a star, or similar in an electric plasma, all act exactly according to the laws of physics.

The sparks that jump in the synapses in our brains and nerves all act exactly according to the laws of physics. There is no random whatsoever... at least not that has been proven, or even shown when you get right down to the basics. Everything that is random exists because of our ignorance in understanding things.

Odds are that this is all a simulation... except for the core of out soul or inner identity.

To me, the question is, "if we are truly are living in a simulation, would it make a difference to how we are currently living our lives?"

@BADecker necroposter, but I like this topic!

Few wonderful video about simulation theory:

2016 Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate: Is the Universe a Simulation?
https://youtu.be/wgSZA3NPpBs

Is Reality Real? The Simulation Argument (Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell)
https://youtu.be/tlTKTTt47WE

Are You In A Simulation? (Vsauce3)
https://youtu.be/3d9i_0Ty7Cg

Free-Will (Intention) is NOT self-evident. It is only apparently self-evident.

ah yes, that's in line with Hegel's Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis triad.

I was basing my statement on a specific scientific world view though, where this triad would not apply simply because one of the theses is already falsified, i.e. where your statement


would not be agreed upon. But again, probably just another matter of exact definition.

Free-Will (Intention) is self-evident.  Determinism is reasoned ('X' caused 'Y').  They are complimentary to each other at the same time they're differentiated.

This is a good place to start when you run into philosophical dichotomies and/or paradoxes:

Any logical understanding of anything is fundamentally binary.  This is true because any particular condition is only identified in contrast to what it is not (e.g. An apple is an apple because it's not a not-apple).  Everything is understood through a series of yes-or-no operations.  That is, a logical understanding of something requires that it be understood in yes-or-no operations and not yes-and-no operations, until you shift your understanding to a higher level of syntax.  Only when you shift to a higher syntax do yes-and-no operations exist.

As an example of this shift in syntax, consider spatial dimensions.  Zero dimensions is represented by an infinitesimally small point with no height, width, or length.  The first dimension is linear, the 2nd-dimension is a planar, the 3rd adds depth, the 4th is time-based, etc.  Each successive dimension represents the sum of all possible combinations of conditions in lower dimensions.  So, for example, the time-based dimension contains all possible combinations of conditions in the 3rd dimension.  That is, it contains them simultaneously.

This simply means that paradoxes (i.e. two occurring events that are understood to be mutually exclusive at a lower level of syntax) exist at higher syntax levels.  Free-Will and Determinism are not exceptions.

all right, to save you some time, I asked the mighty interwebz oracle myelf, as you can find anything these days, and I got this:

http://www.optimal.org/peter/freewill.htm

In the end of the day it's all in the definition of such terms. With new findings in science and technology they have to be re-defined perhaps, and also anybody can tweak them a bit for the purpose of writing some smart essay.


In the same vein, the author goes the "glorified determinism" route here imho.

(Maybe discussion of this should continue in another thread if desired.)

Free will vs. Determinism.

which one 

Gotta love false dichotomies.

$ kill -9 ex-wife && ps aux | grep ex-wife

You just have to terminate your ex-wife process, easy peasy.

You sound like you're already living in Permutation City.

You computer scientists need such a huge amount of money for your work. You buy computers, components etc. Take an example on the matematicians - they only need paper, pen and a trashcan.. or even better, look at the philosophers - they dont even have a trashcan.