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Quote from: Odusko on November 10, 2024, 05:59:30 PM

But whale's are same as the big trader's, their know how to manipulate and read the market smartly and for that, they will always be at a better position compared to everyone else in the market.

Yes and they also know exactly when they are going to make the market price go up, for example what is happening now is the Trump effect, and this effect will last all this year and next, only by taking advantage of his effect and taking into account that the 4 years of the cycle are going to be completed where bitcoin always increases in price, things will be different, many more emotions can be generated that people in the world want to have more and more bitcoin because people always buy when bitcoin is more expensive, lol, I don't understand them , but that is favorable to the market so those feelings are welcome.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on October 19, 2024, 07:05:30 AM

I read it on news that as the price of bitcoin is getting closer to $70000, that new and old whales wallets are accumulating bitcoin at a speed which resembles July 2020 to January 2021 when bitcoin increased by 550%.

According to the news, what it means is that bull run is likely coming and that this is just the beginning of it. What you think about it? I think history can repeat itself.

Whale's have already forecasted a time like this which is why they started their Bitcoin accumulations way back when the price was still very low and at a discounted price, because at most their control the market and without such a bag load of Bitcoin, their control over the market may be very minimal and for that their lose their control eventually.

But whale's are same as the big trader's, their know how to manipulate and read the market smartly and for that, they will always be at a better position compared to everyone else in the market.

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When the price of BTCn is rising I doubt that whales will buy BTC, what they should be doing is waiting and waiting, some who have more money can buy to see how much they can buy until they meet a big bear, that's how I imagine it, because what I understand is that whales buy when the price is low or it is established that it is cheap and suitable for buying, buying at a high level can bring losses to the whales because there may be many selling.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 30, 2024, 06:28:05 AM

We can’t ignore the huge influence they have on the market. A lot of small investors just follow their lead, and we can clearly see the impact this has on price movements. While this might be the start of prices rising again, I’m still not confident that it’ll take us to a new all-time high. For every person buying, there are others selling and taking advantage of the situation, which is why it’s rare to see prices steadily rising without fluctuations. Not everyone’s riding the same wave, and the ups and downs are still very much felt. Maybe I’m wrong, but I still think hitting $100k as a new all-time high is going to be tough.

yeah the short sellers are pain in the ass, so many people just short selling whenever BTC reaches resistance around $74k as if they don't want to see BTC reaching new ATH.
i've seen plenty that keeps shorting with 200x leverage at the top, if things keep up this way then I presume the market will just bounces off resistance quite few times only then once the liquidity is getting weaker the bullrun will resume.

the problem with crypto market nowadays, so many shorters with high leverage that can turn around the market and hold the organic growth of bitcoin.

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Quote from: asarfiar on November 03, 2024, 10:19:30 AM

If we look at the Bitcoin market system, we can see that the price of Bitcoin has been decreasing gradually for the past few days. Bitcoin is volatile but it continues to move at a certain pace, the rising price is a prime example of that. I can imagine that Bitcoin will definitely have a positive impact on the upcoming elections, because whichever party wins the elections, Bitcoin can contribute to a higher peak. And if Donald Trump wins, expect Bitcoin to make a new all-time high ATH very soon.

Many people are motivated by the rising Bitcoin price and investors are waiting for a big return, so for those who are still thinking about Bitcoin investment I say start investing today and keep going!

I wouldn't say it's decreasing; it almost reached a new ATH a few days ago, and since then, it has been ranging between $68,000 and $70,000. I would say that it's generally stable, while its volatility has decreased the past few months, with minor price fluctuations that usually recovered within a couple of days. We're only a few hours away from the 2024 U.S. elections, and I'm also positive that Trump can influence Bitcoin's price positively. I'm not keeping much track of the U.S.'s politics, but I'm confident that Trump is going to win.

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Quote from: Odusko on October 27, 2024, 04:00:11 PM

but the problem is, when that time for the bull market will be and hoping that it doesn't take most of us unaware.

That is why we must be prepared, both for that and for the opposite case, remember that sometimes the market does the opposite of what the masses think, and in this sense one does not know what to think, there we saw the halving effect, we all expected the price to reach about $ 100k but no, it went down in price, so for now you can buy it seems fine to me, if the price goes down then continue buying, as they say but there you go buy in the dip, but it is the most advisable, the nice thing is if every time the price goes down you have enough money to buy hard , for that reason those of us who do the DCA method need to ensure thoroughness.

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It's all over the news from time to time, quite funny that Bitcoin Magazine just posted this about 15 minutes ago on X:

Source: Bitcoin Magazine

But you have to remember, these are news outlets, they farm engagement of course.

Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2024, 07:31:30 AM

But yeah, maybe at the start of the November and the next coming 6 months, we could be seeing a massive pump again. The election is coming and so I'm expecting that we should be getting near all time high prices again or even established a new one and then it will go slowly increasing like every month and reach 6 figures.

Agree, the next 6 months should bring higher BTC prices, no matter who wins the election on Tuesday.

Pretty sure 6 figures will be the new normal in a few months (that doesn't mean that we won't dip below 6 figures again ofc.)

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 30, 2024, 05:41:07 PM

Quote from: jaberwock on October 27, 2024, 03:40:39 PM

What about on the past or now? You are here already, so which means you have an interest with BTC. Also, being stable in price is still a good thing and better than if the market is bearish even though it can also allow us to buy cheaper. With what what is said earlier that the market haven't dumped yet, it is a sign that the bull run is still around the corner and can get resumed anytime of the day most especially now that we are on the final quarter of the year.

There is no limit about the bull run that we can get which is okay because a bull run is a very good time. It allows us to sell for a very good profit and if in case the bull run is delayed these days/times, we can surely get it it later down the road.

If I'm honest, I don't mind price fluctuations, I'm usually delighted during bear market because I can accumulate more at a significantly cheaper rate. On the contrary, bull market decreases my pace of accumulation and it's the main reason I'm not that fond of it, which is why I didn't mind the relatively stable price during the last few months. However, I was flabbergasted seeing Bitcoin almost surpassing another ATH, being less than $100 away, it was something I wasn't expecting this time of the year.

If we look at the Bitcoin market system, we can see that the price of Bitcoin has been decreasing gradually for the past few days. Bitcoin is volatile but it continues to move at a certain pace, the rising price is a prime example of that. I can imagine that Bitcoin will definitely have a positive impact on the upcoming elections, because whichever party wins the elections, Bitcoin can contribute to a higher peak. And if Donald Trump wins, expect Bitcoin to make a new all-time high ATH very soon.

Many people are motivated by the rising Bitcoin price and investors are waiting for a big return, so for those who are still thinking about Bitcoin investment I say start investing today and keep going!

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on November 02, 2024, 08:58:00 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 02, 2024, 08:12:01 AM

You can put it that way, regardless of the result of the US election, Bitcoin will have not choice but to go on a bull run this 2024 to 2025. We've known that the market is very unpredictable, even if you see at the price prediction games here, there are those who join the contest that I think might win, but in the matter of just 48 hours the prices changes and so there is a new set of winners.

So this trend could be the same, very volatile and yet sooner or later there could be a big price rise, a parabolic increase and then the next thing we know, the price is already at the $100k price range. So 6 months, or in a year, we could achieved that price.

Well, the elections are on Tuesday, so we'll see how things progress soon enough. However, I'm not too familiar with the elections and who's likely to win, but from my understanding the main two candidates, Trump and Kamala have shown an interest in cryptocurrencies, which may perhaps alter Bitcoin's movement in the short-term. I don't doubt that Bitcoin will thrive no matter the election outcome, but it may have short-term negative or positive result. We'll see in a few days, despite that, I'm extremely confident about 2025 regarding Bitcoin's performance.

Only Trump has expressed public support for Bitcoin, Kamala has shown no interest in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, she has ignored and barely mentioned cryptocurrencies throughout the campaign. So the election results will have an impact on Bitcoin's movement in the short term.

In case Kamala wins and stays neutral on bitcoin then we could see a bull run, but if she goes against bitcoin and enacts tough policies then I doubt we will see a bull run in 2025. We should accept the fact that things have changed from the past, bitcoin is getting attention from the government and they have a significant impact on it through policies. It can be said that the development of bitcoin these days depends on the government, on the world economy, whether we like it or not, that is the truth.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 02, 2024, 08:12:01 AM

You can put it that way, regardless of the result of the US election, Bitcoin will have not choice but to go on a bull run this 2024 to 2025. We've known that the market is very unpredictable, even if you see at the price prediction games here, there are those who join the contest that I think might win, but in the matter of just 48 hours the prices changes and so there is a new set of winners.

So this trend could be the same, very volatile and yet sooner or later there could be a big price rise, a parabolic increase and then the next thing we know, the price is already at the $100k price range. So 6 months, or in a year, we could achieved that price.

Well, the elections are on Tuesday, so we'll see how things progress soon enough. However, I'm not too familiar with the elections and who's likely to win, but from my understanding the main two candidates, Trump and Kamala have shown an interest in cryptocurrencies, which may perhaps alter Bitcoin's movement in the short-term. I don't doubt that Bitcoin will thrive no matter the election outcome, but it may have short-term negative or positive result. We'll see in a few days, despite that, I'm extremely confident about 2025 regarding Bitcoin's performance.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 30, 2024, 06:28:05 AM

We can’t ignore the huge influence they have on the market. A lot of small investors just follow their lead, and we can clearly see the impact this has on price movements.

This is very correct. I know of traders whose buying and selling decisions are based on whales track alert. If they see news of whales accumulating big on bitcoin or any other crypto, they do the same with the little they can afford and sell off when ever those whales make a sell move, as they believe that there's something they see in that market that makes them take any decision at every point in time.

If they can use that moment for their advantages, they will make a profit like what the whales get. They are right behind on the whales moves so they can get the time to act. But that will not easy as the whales moves can not be predicted and they must be careful to decide.

They must monitor the market or search for the news from many sources. That will not be easy because among many news they found, some news can be fake and makes them pick a wrong decision. So only awareness and be careful of the sources that they can do before they decide.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on October 19, 2024, 07:05:30 AM

I read it on news that as the price of bitcoin is getting closer to $70000, that new and old whales wallets are accumulating bitcoin at a speed which resembles July 2020 to January 2021 when bitcoin increased by 550%.

According to the news, what it means is that bull run is likely coming and that this is just the beginning of it. What you think about it? I think history can repeat itself.

From a source I followed that monitors some whales transactions, a lot of increasing Bitcoin transactions has been going on lately, Bitcoin moving from exchanges to wallets and USDT moving from wallet to exchanges, signaling Buying presure, even from what I can read from the chart, you can tell that there's massive accumulation going on and not only now but over the past few months after Halving, but seem what we are seeing now is whales trying to take their last positions in the market before the final ride.

It is not surprising that whales have started moving their assets to the exchange so that there has been a price increase in the last few days, of course a bull run pattern will soon form, especially as you said after a few months of halving the whales are trying to take positions because they know a bull run is coming. The bull run pattern will always be the same even though the time is not the same after this halving, we can see it from the previous having-halving. After the halving occurs, a few months later the bull run occurs, I hope this will happen soon.

I will take steps like whales to continue buying bitcoin at times like this, especially this month there is a general election in the US, of course this will be one of the bitcoin factors to create a bull run. If whales have started collecting bitcoin, it will be a good sign, so take advantage of moments like this to continue collecting bitcoin with dca.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on November 02, 2024, 07:51:11 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2024, 07:31:30 AM

We've got some movement and almost hit a new all time high, but currently, it's sitting just below the $70k region. And we end up October with a big increased, and when we thought that it's going to be bad, it rose 11%, so that is really good to ending for us.

But yeah, maybe at the start of the November and the next coming 6 months, we could be seeing a massive pump again. The election is coming and so I'm expecting that we should be getting near all time high prices again or even established a new one and then it will go slowly increasing like every month and reach 6 figures.

I was quite surprised to be honest, I wasn't expecting such a price increase in November, I was anticipating that Bitcoin would follow its previous, relatively stable trend, but generally, it has been proven that the market is unpredictable. The upcoming elections might make the difference, whether that's positive or negative, we'll see in a few days, and perhaps we then can predict with higher accuracy what's going to happen in the upcoming months. Provided things continue as they are, I believe it's inevitable to see a new ATH of over $75,000 anytime soon, in 2025.

You can put it that way, regardless of the result of the US election, Bitcoin will have not choice but to go on a bull run this 2024 to 2025. We've known that the market is very unpredictable, even if you see at the price prediction games here, there are those who join the contest that I think might win, but in the matter of just 48 hours the prices changes and so there is a new set of winners.

So this trend could be the same, very volatile and yet sooner or later there could be a big price rise, a parabolic increase and then the next thing we know, the price is already at the $100k price range. So 6 months, or in a year, we could achieved that price.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on October 19, 2024, 07:05:30 AM

According to the news, what it means is that bull run is likely coming and that this is just the beginning of it. What you think about it? I think history can repeat itself.

Whether it is a trick or strategy that leads to reverse speculation or manipulation, I used to think that Bitcoin's development tricks are always changing, we understand that after the halving happened yesterday there was no real development for Bitcoin like what happened before, I was thinking, why.....! Maybe that's how whales create and how they build new nests.

As happened when the halving occurred, a new ATH was created, but not this time, is it possible that an ATH will occur in the next few months after the halving occurs, this is indeed confusing speculation, many Bitcoin experts are confused by the current situation, Whale games can really make Bitcoin users nervous, many people currently believe and don't believe in what will happen to Bitcoin in the future, is this a new strategy being played.

If you look at the OP news, I think something strange is happening for the future development of Bitcoin, everyone is putting hope after the halving happens, confusing facts happen, I think this is a strategy that brings good luck.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 02, 2024, 07:31:30 AM

We've got some movement and almost hit a new all time high, but currently, it's sitting just below the $70k region. And we end up October with a big increased, and when we thought that it's going to be bad, it rose 11%, so that is really good to ending for us.

But yeah, maybe at the start of the November and the next coming 6 months, we could be seeing a massive pump again. The election is coming and so I'm expecting that we should be getting near all time high prices again or even established a new one and then it will go slowly increasing like every month and reach 6 figures.

I was quite surprised to be honest, I wasn't expecting such a price increase in November, I was anticipating that Bitcoin would follow its previous, relatively stable trend, but generally, it has been proven that the market is unpredictable. The upcoming elections might make the difference, whether that's positive or negative, we'll see in a few days, and perhaps we then can predict with higher accuracy what's going to happen in the upcoming months. Provided things continue as they are, I believe it's inevitable to see a new ATH of over $75,000 anytime soon, in 2025.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 25, 2024, 12:32:38 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on October 24, 2024, 11:10:14 PM

Well it could be that they are preparing themselves for a big rally, or maybe they are just whales, trying to out buy everyone and have a lot of Bitcoin at their disposal because we all know that sooner or later, we are going to hit new all time high again.

It's not that there is a possibility of a bull market in 2025, we are in the bull market already. Although it could be a different bull run since we have hit new all time high prior to the halving itself. But still we are very positive that somewhere next year, we might be really seeing a 6 digit price of Bitcoin.

It's a little bit of both; whales are constantly acquiring more Bitcoin; however, statistically, we've seen that major whales are upping their purchases if they're anticipating market growth. Also, I agree, we're already in the bull market, even though it doesn't seem that way. I remember reading another topic a few days ago that this has been the least volatile bull period Bitcoin has ever noticed. I'm also positive that in less than 6 months to a year, Bitcoin will have surpassed $100,000 and hit 6 figures.

We've got some movement and almost hit a new all time high, but currently, it's sitting just below the $70k region. And we end up October with a big increased, and when we thought that it's going to be bad, it rose 11%, so that is really good to ending for us.

But yeah, maybe at the start of the November and the next coming 6 months, we could be seeing a massive pump again. The election is coming and so I'm expecting that we should be getting near all time high prices again or even established a new one and then it will go slowly increasing like every month and reach 6 figures.

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Quote from: jaberwock on October 27, 2024, 03:40:39 PM

What about on the past or now? You are here already, so which means you have an interest with BTC. Also, being stable in price is still a good thing and better than if the market is bearish even though it can also allow us to buy cheaper. With what what is said earlier that the market haven't dumped yet, it is a sign that the bull run is still around the corner and can get resumed anytime of the day most especially now that we are on the final quarter of the year.

There is no limit about the bull run that we can get which is okay because a bull run is a very good time. It allows us to sell for a very good profit and if in case the bull run is delayed these days/times, we can surely get it it later down the road.

If I'm honest, I don't mind price fluctuations, I'm usually delighted during bear market because I can accumulate more at a significantly cheaper rate. On the contrary, bull market decreases my pace of accumulation and it's the main reason I'm not that fond of it, which is why I didn't mind the relatively stable price during the last few months. However, I was flabbergasted seeing Bitcoin almost surpassing another ATH, being less than $100 away, it was something I wasn't expecting this time of the year.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on October 19, 2024, 07:05:30 AM

I read it on news that as the price of bitcoin is getting closer to $70000, that new and old whales wallets are accumulating bitcoin at a speed which resembles July 2020 to January 2021 when bitcoin increased by 550%.

According to the news, what it means is that bull run is likely coming and that this is just the beginning of it. What you think about it? I think history can repeat itself.

From a source I followed that monitors some whales transactions, a lot of increasing Bitcoin transactions has been going on lately, Bitcoin moving from exchanges to wallets and USDT moving from wallet to exchanges, signaling Buying presure, even from what I can read from the chart, you can tell that there's massive accumulation going on and not only now but over the past few months after Halving, but seem what we are seeing now is whales trying to take their last positions in the market before the final ride.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 30, 2024, 06:28:05 AM

We can’t ignore the huge influence they have on the market. A lot of small investors just follow their lead, and we can clearly see the impact this has on price movements.

This is very correct. I know of traders whose buying and selling decisions are based on whales track alert. If they see news of whales accumulating big on bitcoin or any other crypto, they do the same with the little they can afford and sell off when ever those whales make a sell move, as they believe that there's something they see in that market that makes them take any decision at every point in time.

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We can’t ignore the huge influence they have on the market. A lot of small investors just follow their lead, and we can clearly see the impact this has on price movements. While this might be the start of prices rising again, I’m still not confident that it’ll take us to a new all-time high. For every person buying, there are others selling and taking advantage of the situation, which is why it’s rare to see prices steadily rising without fluctuations. Not everyone’s riding the same wave, and the ups and downs are still very much felt. Maybe I’m wrong, but I still think hitting $100k as a new all-time high is going to be tough.

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