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Topic: whales are accumulating Bitcoin millions from binance and bittrex as well (Read 594 times)

legendary
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Aye, and the strangest thing is even those who've been around since the last cycle, having had the opportunity to witness the lessons learnt then, are falling inexplicably into the same cycle of sentiment. I remember mentioning in 2018 when some self-professed old players were suddenly giving up (this was close to the 2018 low). It's as if, all the past cycles weren't enough to convince them that this rhyming of history would persist.

I wouldn't exactly call myself different from others, but I will say I'm able to be a lot more sentiment-resistant

I've learned to be that way, but it's still a challenge. No matter how many times I experience the same cycles, my gut instincts always tell me to hold at the top and sell at the bottom. When the market is down 50% and there's blood in the streets, you really want to make the pain stop and sell everything, but that's usually the worst possible time to sell.

So I'm never surprised that most people lose money trading markets. They just don't have the patience or constitution to wait through the pain of financial losses.
legendary
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Actually it really does feel like 2015 all over again doesn't it?

Same bearish sentiment, different market structure. As they say, "history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes."

I don't think halving will have the direct impact it has had before but long term effects tend to bite in big ways down the line.

We've just had 6 months of weak downtrending so nobody should be surprised at a mid-term uptrend in Q1 next year regardless of the halving. The same thing also happened in 2012 and 2016, so there's that too.

Aye, and the strangest thing is even those who've been around since the last cycle, having had the opportunity to witness the lessons learnt then, are falling inexplicably into the same cycle of sentiment. I remember mentioning in 2018 when some self-professed old players were suddenly giving up (this was close to the 2018 low). It's as if, all the past cycles weren't enough to convince them that this rhyming of history would persist.

I wouldn't exactly call myself different from others, but I will say I'm able to be a lot more sentiment-resistant
legendary
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Actually it really does feel like 2015 all over again doesn't it?

Same bearish sentiment, different market structure. As they say, "history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes."

I don't think halving will have the direct impact it has had before but long term effects tend to bite in big ways down the line.

We've just had 6 months of weak downtrending so nobody should be surprised at a mid-term uptrend in Q1 next year regardless of the halving. The same thing also happened in 2012 and 2016, so there's that too.

It does feel like it had happen before, its time to just keep accumulating the top coins since its just a matter of time that we shall start seeing lots of progressive developments that will happen to which a new wave of adoption will happen and probably deployment of cryptocurrencies. The downtrend happens every time but 2016's price is too different in 2019 so it might take really long before we see price jumps in the market.
legendary
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Actually it really does feel like 2015 all over again doesn't it?

Same bearish sentiment, different market structure. As they say, "history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes."

I don't think halving will have the direct impact it has had before but long term effects tend to bite in big ways down the line.

We've just had 6 months of weak downtrending so nobody should be surprised at a mid-term uptrend in Q1 next year regardless of the halving. The same thing also happened in 2012 and 2016, so there's that too.
hero member
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What signs these things are showing Huh What your views
There's a lot of incomplete information but then i saw some charts on the reply so i assume that bittrex and binance are not the only exchange that is about to use them to get in or collect and accumulate bitcoins. Maybe its a sign or not and yet every singke big amount transfers there is an effect in the total market along with that place.
legendary
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I think an even better question would be: "when the whales accumulate most coins"? If the question is put in the context of this year, then the answer is quite clear, in the first few months of the year when the price was between $3000 and $4000. But given the big jump that has taken place since then, and the profits they have made, there is no doubt that they are accumulating even today.

Although there are doubts that Bitcoin will follow the usual pattern and that a new big pump will follow after the next halving, personally I see no reason for this not to happen. Considering the past halving and the one before it, it is realistic to expect a price increase of at least 10 times, which is again half less than what happened in 2017.

If we think about it, then the only logic is to accumulate as much now as possible and to accept that everything under $10 000 is a bargain.
sr. member
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I just see this as another news that is aimed at making people to panic.
Anyway, you didn't bring up a chart or link to back up your claims. And moreover, does it ever occur to you that traders and investors might just be buying Bitcoin, prepares for 2020 and not for any apocalypse events as most people might claim. Let's be mild on how we spread certain news.
Good point, probably this could be a trap and people to have panic once heard this certain news. Whales, the owner of exchange or not let's hold as long as we can. If whales accumulating, let's accumulate too and ride those whales' plan. The reason for continues dropping because of this holidays, people need money maybe other's cashout their crypto asset to fiat for the daily needs.
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I just see this as another news that is aimed at making people to panic.
Anyway, you didn't bring up a chart or link to back up your claims. And moreover, does it ever occur to you that traders and investors might just be buying Bitcoin, prepares for 2020 and not for any apocalypse events as most people might claim. Let's be mild on how we spread certain news.
legendary
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Actually it really does feel like 2015 all over again doesn't it? I know I only practically bought my first bitcoin in 2016, when literally stuck in bed for weeks with nothing to do but read and learn but I do recall some of the conversations from 2015. There was far less noise then, too, so easy to hear the voices that mattered.

I don't think halving will have the direct impact it has had before but long term effects tend to bite in big ways down the line. The scarcity argument is much stronger, not that it ever needed more help!

Not sure about whales chipping away at binance though. Aurely they got minions doing otc for them already?
legendary
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With the block halving being so close the bleeding won't last much longer than January. I expect a rally to commence around that time and people as always will create threads asking whether or not they are too late to buy at x/y/z level. Don't be one of those suckers. Make sure you have bought at today's levels and make sure you have enough fiat aside to buy a bit lower if needed.

Great advice, feels like 2015 all over again.
legendary
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Its normal in nature that whales accumulate during this type of season while everything is still low and people should also think like whales where taking advantage while there is an opportunity.

People do not. Be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy doesn't apply to retailers. In a way people who like pumps should be happy with that because the retailers generally help inflating bubbles well beyond the tops "experts" keep calling but are wrong about almost every single time. If everyone thought like a whale the market would be fucked up, lol.

With the block halving being so close the bleeding won't last much longer than January. I expect a rally to commence around that time and people as always will create threads asking whether or not they are too late to buy at x/y/z level. Don't be one of those suckers. Make sure you have bought at today's levels and make sure you have enough fiat aside to buy a bit lower if needed.
sr. member
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What signs these things are showing Huh What your views
Well you should be happy with that because they are buying your Bitcoin. Its normal in nature that whales accumulate during this type of season while everything is still low and people should also think like whales where taking advantage while there is an opportunity.
hero member
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They can accumulate in any sites and whales can hide the amount they want to accumulate, not only in centralized exchange but they are also doing that in p2p. It's not new to us, they have been accumulating and dumping if they find a good timing, that's their game and they are making money out of it.

Them accumulating doesn't mean they will hold that longer, whales normally plays game in short term as a small movement would already give a decent profit due to their big holdings.
legendary
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I've seen a lot of post about P2P transaction (fiat-to-bitcoin) in this forum, these people wants to buy a huge amount of Bitcoin without using exchanges.

i've seen examples of the opposite too: I'm selling 2131 Bitcoins, I'm in Hong Kong

you can't take stuff like that too seriously. with OTC trading, we have no idea what's really happening---like how much volume is changing hands, if any. when the OTC market has excess supply and demand, it's reflected in spot market prices. so i focus on the spot market.
legendary
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But I think that is not whales who are accumulating bitcoin, but people are doing the same as the whales.
It doesn't matter how deep people's pockets are, they are accumulating regardless because they consider it a good enough moment to buy and sell higher later, or they simply dollar cost average to get their buying price to drop further.

Nowadays whales are doing the best they can to not appear to be a whale, and so they no longer hold a few addresses with thousands of coins in them, but dozens of addresses where their thousands of coins are distributed. Quite smart right?
sr. member
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There are many ways to get bitcoin for whales, And I think one here is to buy hundreds of bitcoin through P2P.

This is the easiest way for investors to avoid regulation, taxation and even their own safety. So let's not be surprised at the fast pace of bitcoin now and in the years ahead.
hero member
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I would think they'd find a way to buy large amounts of bitcoin without using a crypto exchange and avoid the risks inherent with them. 

You are correct because recently I've seen a lot of post about P2P transaction (fiat-to-bitcoin) in this forum, these people wants to buy a huge amount of Bitcoin without using exchanges. I don't know if this is good or bad but if they acquire a lot Bitcoin on their wallets then it may do some bad effect in Bitcoin's market in the future.
hero member
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People who have a lot of money still buying bitcoin, especially if the bitcoin price is down deeper. They like to buy more and more bitcoin because they want to have much bitcoin before the price increase higher. Maybe that is what the OP sees from those exchanges, binance, and bittrex, so he can say that the whales are accumulating bitcoins before it increases. But I think that is not whales who are accumulating bitcoin, but people are doing the same as the whales.
sr. member
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yeah right, we are now in the accumulation of bitcoin just as in Tuur Demeester said that bitcoin is now in the accumulation zone. in the TA the accumulation zone is just before halving bitcoin. some whales will bought bitcoin and sell it when halving will occur

hero member
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What signs these things are showing Huh What your views

It's said in many places that we're in an accumulation phase. Whoever has money to invest, they accumulate, no matter it's from Binance, Bittrex or other exchanges, no matter they're whales or small fish.


It's not only whales, anyone who knows what's store after the halving is in a hurry to accumulate Bitcoin and other coins in the market, but coins also go up and down, people should not mistake that there's not going to be a massive pump, there's really going to be and  you don't want to be the one crying and blaming yourself for not taking the situation seriously.
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