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I think that's what caused the price of bitcoin to continue to rise today.  bitcoin has gone up so far that many people cannot afford to buy large amounts of bitcoin, and there are also people who are waiting for a collapse in bitcoin prices like in 2018. I think it is impossible if the price of bitcoin will drop from $ 31,332 to $ 5,000.
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I do not consider Bitcoin to be a speculative asset.  Yes, it is a deflationary asset, so it grows in value over time.  However, in 2021-2030, Bitcoin is about more than just price increases and profits.  Bitcoin is freedom. 

Various states are planning to create Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC).  At the same time, cash turnover will decline.  In the near future (2021-2030), cash will be completely withdrawn from circulation.  CBDC is digital money that limits people's freedom.  All income and expenses, all transactions will be tracked in real time. 

Bitcoin is freedom and independence in the totalitarian world of the future digital concentration camp.  Not everyone realizes this yet. 

However, representatives of the world's elites and the smartest businessmen understand this very well.  That is why the price of Bitcoin began to skyrocket in 2020.

To me you can't really be called smart if you buy BTC now instead of a few years ago, or even early last year. I don't mean people buying small quantities, I'm talking about rich people diversifying in BTC. If you're an investor you know about BTC since at least 2017, there is no excuse to be a nocoiner in 2021. As much as I believe the price of BTC long term will be higher, buying now is still a risk in the short term. If you gave me 1 million, yes I would buy some more BTC, but I wouldn't spend all of the million on it, too risky, better to keep fiat for when BTC goes down in price.


Yes obviously people have had years to be smart and buy into Bitcoin, but even now it is still early days for Bitcoin in the grand scheme of things. Bitcoin is still looked at as some sort of scam or super risky investment that you're probably gonna lose all your money on by the majority of people. Institutions are just now starting to get into it in any real manner. The risk/reward ratio of Bitcoin is still obscenely balanced toward reward right now. Just wait until its normal for corporations to hold some of their treasury in BTC, normal for investment funds to hold a few percent in BTC, normal for central banks and governments to hold some BTC, normal for billionaires to have 9 digits in BTC, and US BTC ETFs start getting approved so its normal for the average middle class person in the US to have a couple percent of their retirement fund in BTC. In 5 years these most of these things might be normal, so anyone buying BTC in 2020 or 2021 in the low to mid five digits will be considered early smart money in Bitcoin, even if they are late compared to a lot of people who got in years earlier at a fraction of the price.

If you gave me $1 million right now I'd put every last penny in BTC (well okay I'd probably put like 30% of it in ETH). It'd be a waste to put it in anything else when we already know what is going to be the most obvious best investment in the world in the years to come.

Big money is used to making bets on companies, like startups, looking to make a fortune if any of them pay off during an IPO years later. This is where they are considered smart money. They aren't considered smart money when novel investment opportunities pop up, like BTC. In these situations they are very conservative, which is why you see them only just starting to enter Bitcoin in late 2020 when many millions of people have been talking about Bitcoin for numerous years and everyone knows everyone in Bitcoin is making tons of money. It took mass government money printing and 0% interest rates and now accepted for the long term for these types of investors to realize that Bitcoin is better than sitting in cash or being happy with a 1% in bonds or a few percent a year in stocks.

I'm just saying don't judge them too harshly. They are still in very early in the grand scheme of things so can still be considered smart money. Nobody buying bitcoin is at any risk of anything other than making a ton of money. These are conservative investors and only get into something when it becomes big enough that they can be sure it won't disappear and also only when their other options start looking bad.
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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more.
Soon, buyers will want to buy it by the quadrillion satoshis, but what's available is just trillions of satoshis. It's becoming scarcer and scarcer. High demand, limited supply. SCARCE.
When the issue of avoid ones career to end (if investors money are lost through crypto investment) come into the subject, i think we should be prepare for the surprise that will occur from the institution verge as the demand keep rising.

It's not as high as its 2017 ATH. Major buyers of the current surge are institutions. Our fellow plebs haven't emerged yet.

I dont understand what you mean by tne Bitcoin not as high as it 2017 market when the 2017 January market trend was surge and correction but this year January market was takeover by surge momentum. However, it too early to finalize the trend of the market that just started. How did the military grade protection work?

I was talking about the 2017 ATH of Google searches for the term "Buy Bitcoin". Check ChrisPop's post for the context.

The current Google searches are not as high as 2017, which suggests, or could suggest, that major buyers are institutions, not regular internet people.


Ok, I agreed with the google search result and that's the reason why I think we need to be for what may happen since the institutions are the primary investors and I read in a thread that they are using Military software to manage their investment.


MILITARY SOFTWARE? Shocked

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However, they can dump their holding once they feel satisfied.


Then that would be the biggest mistake for letting go the biggest investment opportunity of our life-time. Nation-states HODLing would be the next phase. Make it expensive for them. Cool
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In fact, this is a very good thing for investors and the future of cryptocurrency. Thanks to this, crypto money is growing rapidly and investors can make money. Apart from that, big investors are already busy increasing the number of BTC they own during the bear. So when they raise the price in this market and somehow launch the institutes, they add wealth to their fortunes.
Its a good thing that the whales and investors are buying bitcoin massively thus triggering the present bullish season this is a big plus for long term hodlers who should made massive profits now. I hope the implication of these massive investment wouldn't result to price manipulation in the nearest future whereby their actions and inaction will dictate the price of bitcoin.

It sounded like they really are the ones controlling the market when and how they want to price will be. But it's a good practice to move your coins outside the exchange and I guess this is what they did. I guess the market bids are rising while institutions are trying to accumulate more BTC and the demands making the price higher.
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In fact, this is a very good thing for investors and the future of cryptocurrency. Thanks to this, crypto money is growing rapidly and investors can make money. Apart from that, big investors are already busy increasing the number of BTC they own during the bear. So when they raise the price in this market and somehow launch the institutes, they add wealth to their fortunes.
Its a good thing that the whales and investors are buying bitcoin massively thus triggering the present bullish season this is a big plus for long term hodlers who should made massive profits now. I hope the implication of these massive investment wouldn't result to price manipulation in the nearest future whereby their actions and inaction will dictate the price of bitcoin.
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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more.
Soon, buyers will want to buy it by the quadrillion satoshis, but what's available is just trillions of satoshis. It's becoming scarcer and scarcer. High demand, limited supply. SCARCE.
When the issue of avoid ones career to end (if investors money are lost through crypto investment) come into the subject, i think we should be prepare for the surprise that will occur from the institution verge as the demand keep rising.

It's not as high as its 2017 ATH. Major buyers of the current surge are institutions. Our fellow plebs haven't emerged yet.

I dont understand what you mean by tne Bitcoin not as high as it 2017 market when the 2017 January market trend was surge and correction but this year January market was takeover by surge momentum. However, it too early to finalize the trend of the market that just started. How did the military grade protection work?

I was talking about the 2017 ATH of Google searches for the term "Buy Bitcoin". Check ChrisPop's post for the context.

The current Google searches are not as high as 2017, which suggests, or could suggest, that major buyers are institutions, not regular internet people.
Ok, I agreed with the google search result and that's the reason why I think we need to be for what may happen since the institutions are the primary investors and I read in a thread that they are using Military software to manage their investment. However, they can dump their holding once they feel satisfied.
legendary
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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more.
Soon, buyers will want to buy it by the quadrillion satoshis, but what's available is just trillions of satoshis. It's becoming scarcer and scarcer. High demand, limited supply. SCARCE.
When the issue of avoid ones career to end (if investors money are lost through crypto investment) come into the subject, i think we should be prepare for the surprise that will occur from the institution verge as the demand keep rising.

It's not as high as its 2017 ATH. Major buyers of the current surge are institutions. Our fellow plebs haven't emerged yet.

I dont understand what you mean by tne Bitcoin not as high as it 2017 market when the 2017 January market trend was surge and correction but this year January market was takeover by surge momentum. However, it too early to finalize the trend of the market that just started. How did the military grade protection work?


I was talking about the 2017 ATH of Google searches for the term "Buy Bitcoin". Check ChrisPop's post for the context.

The current Google searches are not as high as 2017, which suggests, or could suggest, that major buyers are institutions, not regular internet people.
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With the very rapid rise of the Bitcoin price starting from December 2020 until now, it's obvious this is because whales or institutes are constantly
buying Bitcoin. If you see that no correction has occurred, like whales or institutes does not plan to take profit in the near future. As the opening
post said that more than 12.2K BTC moved out to cold wallet, this has confirmed that they want a long-term investment in Bitcoin. I am
increasingly optimistic that throughout this year the possibility that Bitcoin will continue to increase in price, I will also HODL Bitcoin that I have.
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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more.
Soon, buyers will want to buy it by the quadrillion satoshis, but what's available is just trillions of satoshis. It's becoming scarcer and scarcer. High demand, limited supply. SCARCE.
When the issue of avoid ones career to end (if investors money are lost through crypto investment) come into the subject, i think we should be prepare for the surprise that will occur from the institution verge as the demand keep rising.

It's not as high as its 2017 ATH. Major buyers of the current surge are institutions. Our fellow plebs haven't emerged yet.
I dont understand what you mean by tne Bitcoin not as high as it 2017 market when the 2017 January market trend was surge and correction but this year January market was takeover by surge momentum. However, it too early to finalize the trend of the market that just started. How did the military grade protection work?
legendary
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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more.


Soon, buyers will want to buy it by the quadrillion satoshis, but what's available is just trillions of satoshis. It's becoming scarcer and scarcer. High demand, limited supply. SCARCE.

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I've also seen a recent statistic that "buy bitcoin" keyword is trending up on the google search analytics. Fundamentally this is very bullish and for sure the institutions are using military grade protection for their assets. When you're playing with investors' money you can't take no chances or your career is over.


It's not as high as its 2017 ATH. Major buyers of the current surge are institutions. Our fellow plebs haven't emerged yet.

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We might see more violent movements in the markets as the supply is getting thinner and thinner while the institutions want to accumulate more. I've also seen a recent statistic that "buy bitcoin" keyword is trending up on the google search analytics. Fundamentally this is very bullish and for sure the institutions are using military grade protection for their assets. When you're playing with investors' money you can't take no chances or your career is over.

When an asset is in price discovery mode and the fundamentals are strong, expect some crazy results. That's all I can say.
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As a matter of fact when I had the feeling that institutional financial specialists and whales are not abandoning purchasing a lot of Bitcoin was before Bitcoin hit its ATH, that is, during that time, when Bitcoin dump it won't be long for it to hurry up and begin developing once more, this was totally not the same as past bull run when a dump will prompt further dump, however this time around a dump was trailed by a siphon. Likewise, this means that Bitcoin has come to stay with us while disturbing the world frameworks, it is additionally a sign that the worth will continue expanding since it's conspicuous the huge players are truly holding and not selling at any point in the near future.

If you check the wallet of those whales they are actually continuesly buying bitcoin. Orthe right thing to say is they are continue trading BTC at this moment to add more holdings  I just watch one of the address they even add more of at this current,this is only proves that they trust bitcoin more by now unlike from the last ATH of bitcoin.I still don't see large wallet holdings being moved to exchange as sign of correction.
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I do not consider Bitcoin to be a speculative asset.  Yes, it is a deflationary asset, so it grows in value over time.  However, in 2021-2030, Bitcoin is about more than just price increases and profits.  Bitcoin is freedom. 

Various states are planning to create Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC).  At the same time, cash turnover will decline.  In the near future (2021-2030), cash will be completely withdrawn from circulation.  CBDC is digital money that limits people's freedom.  All income and expenses, all transactions will be tracked in real time. 

Bitcoin is freedom and independence in the totalitarian world of the future digital concentration camp.  Not everyone realizes this yet. 

However, representatives of the world's elites and the smartest businessmen understand this very well.  That is why the price of Bitcoin began to skyrocket in 2020.

To me you can't really be called smart if you buy BTC now instead of a few years ago, or even early last year. I don't mean people buying small quantities, I'm talking about rich people diversifying in BTC. If you're an investor you know about BTC since at least 2017, there is no excuse to be a nocoiner in 2021. As much as I believe the price of BTC long term will be higher, buying now is still a risk in the short term. If you gave me 1 million, yes I would buy some more BTC, but I wouldn't spend all of the million on it, too risky, better to keep fiat for when BTC goes down in price.
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As a matter of fact when I had the feeling that institutional financial specialists and whales are not abandoning purchasing a lot of Bitcoin was before Bitcoin hit its ATH, that is, during that time, when Bitcoin dump it won't be long for it to hurry up and begin developing once more, this was totally not the same as past bull run when a dump will prompt further dump, however this time around a dump was trailed by a siphon. Likewise, this means that Bitcoin has come to stay with us while disturbing the world frameworks, it is additionally a sign that the worth will continue expanding since it's conspicuous the huge players are truly holding and not selling at any point in the near future.
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I do not consider Bitcoin to be a speculative asset.  Yes, it is a deflationary asset, so it grows in value over time.  However, in 2021-2030, Bitcoin is about more than just price increases and profits.  Bitcoin is freedom.  


Bitcoin is simply a part of an asset class of its own category. "Classified Undefined" is more apt in my opinion.

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Various states are planning to create Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC).  At the same time, cash turnover will decline.  In the near future (2021-2030), cash will be completely withdrawn from circulation.  CBDC is digital money that limits people's freedom.  All income and expenses, all transactions will be tracked in real time.  

Bitcoin is freedom and independence in the totalitarian world of the future digital concentration camp.  Not everyone realizes this yet.  

However, representatives of the world's elites and the smartest businessmen understand this very well.  That is why the price of Bitcoin began to skyrocket in 2020.

OR, they're buying it a speculative asset. But I'm confident, with how Bitcoin was designed, many of them WILL become HODLers.
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I do not consider Bitcoin to be a speculative asset.  Yes, it is a deflationary asset, so it grows in value over time.  However, in 2021-2030, Bitcoin is about more than just price increases and profits.  Bitcoin is freedom.  

Various states are planning to create Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC).  At the same time, cash turnover will decline.  In the near future (2021-2030), cash will be completely withdrawn from circulation.  CBDC is digital money that limits people's freedom.  All income and expenses, all transactions will be tracked in real time.  

Bitcoin is freedom and independence in the totalitarian world of the future digital concentration camp.  Not everyone realizes this yet.  

However, representatives of the world's elites and the smartest businessmen understand this very well.  That is why the price of Bitcoin began to skyrocket in 2020.
legendary
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Plus Bitcoin has become a more attractive investment priced at $27,000, than priced at $10,000. No one would be stupid to sell their coins on a "correction", when we know that $30,000 is a mere 10% away. Cool

This is really one thing worth discussing, because the rules of the game have changed in favor of the big players, and to the detriment of the small ones. While BTC was relatively cheap it didn’t interest most of those interested today, but it didn’t really interest the average Joe too much. Now there is interest from everyone, only the average Joe looks at the price of BTC with great wonder, and it has become too expensive for him - while wealthy investors have no problem paying 1 BTC more than $30k if we look at the premium prices happening at Grayscale.

The higher the price goes up, the more interest the big fish will show - because big fish are attracted to big bait.


Then congratulations to US the plebs of Bitcointalk, who bought the dip, under $10,000 and front ran all the institutional investors. You know what to do, and what not to give everyone else what they want. HODL, your Bitcoin.
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They are going fully into the investing game. This could promote massive centralization.
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These market institutions are really preparing for the digitalization switch. They are not supposed to make and accumulate more if they are not seeing the possibility to get raid over fiat use. They are anticipating the future demand of Bitcoin and to believe that the price will get higher and higher as the adoption grows.

I don't think this was a trap and sort of manipulation but something warns us that sooner or later, the majority of the people will likely use Bitcoin and big companies are into accepting it.
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Plus Bitcoin has become a more attractive investment priced at $27,000, than priced at $10,000. No one would be stupid to sell their coins on a "correction", when we know that $30,000 is a mere 10% away. Cool

This is really one thing worth discussing, because the rules of the game have changed in favor of the big players, and to the detriment of the small ones. While BTC was relatively cheap it didn’t interest most of those interested today, but it didn’t really interest the average Joe too much. Now there is interest from everyone, only the average Joe looks at the price of BTC with great wonder, and it has become too expensive for him - while wealthy investors have no problem paying 1 BTC more than $30k if we look at the premium prices happening at Grayscale.

The higher the price goes up, the more interest the big fish will show - because big fish are attracted to big bait.
But this is the fault of the average Joe, they had years even a full decade to get in bitcoin and yet they did not do it, we know this day was coming and we were desperately trying to get everyone we could on board and they either did not listen or they made fun of us, so they are on their own and they will have to wait for the next revolutionary invention to come in order to reach anything remotely close to what bitcoin has given and will give in the future.

And even then I am sure they are not going to take advantage of that opportunity anyway even if it were to appear and people similar to us will try to make them invest in it only for the average Joe to lose the opportunity again.
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