What are the best Bitcoin hardware wallets? (Merits for help) - page 2.

Zicadis

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Dump it!!!

Quote from: pacman7331 on February 02, 2020, 10:55:33 AM

I found Finney, another hardware wallet from the Sirinlabs project. Sirinlabs is one of the top altcoins that has use cases, the Sirinlabs smartphone, and this Finney is a hardware wallet which is available in the Sirin shop! You may find details here, https://shop.sirinlabs.com/?rfsn=2397639.54fdf&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=2397639.54fdf

Jesus, $999. I'm really not sure who their target user is, but $999 is just ridiculous considering you can buy practically all other wallets, plus the Samsung Exodus phone for less than that.

Quote from: morggin on February 02, 2020, 12:32:16 PM

I can only recommend Ledger or Trezor. As they have a consistent track record so far. I would never recommend something I have never used.

Yeah, I've already played around with both of these, but I just can't take the fact that neither is wireless. Plus as far as I'm aware, the Trezor One is no longer being updated and so doesn't support some newer assets.

Not ideal for me.

Still looking for more suggestions gais!

morggin

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I can only recommend Ledger or Trezor. As they have a consistent track record so far. I would never recommend something I have never used.

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

trezor. have had NO issues with it AT ALL. ive had mine since 2013 or 2014.

however there is a flaw that if you lose the trezor its possible that at some point they can extract the seed (if its found by someone who know what they are doing). but again you have to LOSE it. as long as only you have access youre fine. you can use any browser and you can point it at your own local copy of the blockchain so you dont have to use trezors back end.

the ledger s.. hell no. had problem after problem. they keep changing the software you need to work with it. plus blown firmware updates no thanks, i like stuff that Just Works.

buy directly from satoshi labs (slush) only. NEVER buy a used one.

chennappa121

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I'm using Ledger Nano it is very safe and secure and it is user friendly we can connect to any computer through USB and embeds in OLED display to double check and confirm each transaction with single tab button.

I have not used any other wallet other than Ledger Nano

Here are some list which you have not mentioned in your list.

1. OpenDime
2. Corazon

jessyj48

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Go for the high end Ledger or Trezor hardware wallets, not the cheapest ones, since hardware wallets is what you asked for there it is, i am better off with mobile wallet and paper wallet, until I start having 7k$ worth of bitcoin maybe i will consider hardware wallet then

pacman7331

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I found Finney, another hardware wallet from the Sirinlabs project. Sirinlabs is one of the top altcoins that has use cases, the Sirinlabs smartphone, and this Finney is a hardware wallet which is available in the Sirin shop! You may find details here, https://shop.sirinlabs.com/?rfsn=2397639.54fdf&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=2397639.54fdf

taufik123

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Ledger Nano S and Trezor hardware wallets have become a common choice because it is indeed the best level of security for a portable hardware wallet.
Hardware wallet is not vulnerable to online attacks because the use of this wallet can be offline.
But there is no system that is 100% safe as said by @lucius

Quote from: Lucius on February 02, 2020, 06:46:30 AM

-snip-Nothing is 100% safe, -snip-

I also recommend bitcoin paperwallet that can be easily created at walletgenerator.net

You can create a new wallet with a public key and private key that can be printed on a piece of paper and can be stored offline. The key that is created will be very long and difficult to write manually. Private key is also made with a QR code to make it easier to access it.

Wallet security depends on how the wallet user behaves.
the security of your wallet is your responsibility.

Zicadis

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Dump it!!!

Quote from: OROBTC on February 01, 2020, 01:50:31 PM

The Card Wallet may be of interest, I am thinking of getting one. It's made in Austria and looks secure:

https://www.cardwallet.com/en/home/

Never seen that one before, thanks for contributing.

Definitely looks like something I could be interested in, since it'll make carrying around Bitcoin far more accessible.

+merit for you!

I'm thinking I'll just end up buying a few different ones and comparing them myself. The Ledger Nano S and X do look strong, but the price of the X just isn't justified IMO right now, particularly considering the CoolWallet is way cheaper.

Lucius

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Quote from: KnightElite on February 01, 2020, 10:37:10 AM

I do not say that it is fully safe because there are past issues about ledger nano S where the sellers and retailers are able to get the fund of the users. That is why for those who want to buy ledger nano s make sure that you will buy at the legit sellers.

What you talk about applies to every hardware wallet which is being purchased from unauthorized sellers, or if it is a used device. The problem is not that such devices come with an already generated seed, but the fact that those who buy them do not reset the device and make new seed. This is a very simple attempt of fraud, that can easily be avoided.

Quote from: pixie85 on February 01, 2020, 01:58:46 PM

I saw Ledger and Trezor compared and there were some small issues with how ledger is build. Trezor was found to be more secure because it's completely offline and there's no way hos your keys can be compromised. It's not that simple with ledger but it still offers a very high level of security.
You could also use a computer which can have its internet card disconnected. Any device that stores your kyeys offline is 100% secure.

Ledger and Trezor need to be connected to the internet to be able to send transactions, how would you use wallets like this if they were completely offline? But such devices are designed to never expose private keys, process of sign transaction is always inside hardware wallet.

Nothing is 100% safe, so neither devices that are offline - they are all subject to psychic attacks where an attacker can attempt to extract a private key or seed using some security vulnerability, which is for some time possible with Trezor models if users did not set very strong paraphrase.

pixie85

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I saw Ledger and Trezor compared and there were some small issues with how ledger is build. Trezor was found to be more secure because it's completely offline and there's no way hos your keys can be compromised. It's not that simple with ledger but it still offers a very high level of security.

You could also use a computer which can have its internet card disconnected. Any device that stores your kyeys offline is 100% secure.

OROBTC

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I like the the Nano Ledger S, especially as it has fewer apparent attack vectors than the X.

I also like the Trezor model T.

I have used both of those as well as other HW wallets from each supplier in the past, so I feel that both suppliers are reliable, but order directly from them if possible. Both of the above have long histories with members here.

To prevent attacks, hide them well.

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The Card Wallet may be of interest, I am thinking of getting one. It's made in Austria and looks secure:

https://www.cardwallet.com/en/home/

KnightElite

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Quote from: Lucius on February 01, 2020, 08:54:41 AM

I am a Ledger Nano S owner for years, and a few months ago I bought a Nano X so maybe I'm not too objective when it comes to advising what to buy. Although there are a large number of hardware wallets on the market today, if you are looking for proven devices that have a long-standing reputation, there is no doubt that the choice will be narrowed to Ledger and Trezor.

Considering the vulnerability that is detected in Trezor models, and it concerns physical attack, let's say that this is for some reason enough to opt for another option. If as many as 37 characters long passphrases is required to prevent hacking, it doesn't really look good. On the other hand, it would be really foolish to say that Ledger has 100% secure devices, but at this point, they seem like a logical choice to me.

The main task of hardware wallets is to isolate and protect private keys, or to prevent hacking (remotely or physically), but many people still base their decisions on design, which should not be crucial when it comes to security.

Here's another hardware wallet that isn't mentioned too much, maybe because of the price Roll Eyes

https://gray.inc/collections/corazon-wallet

I also use Ledger Nano S and most of my funds are in there. I can now the guarantee that my bitcoins are safe because of its reputable hardware wallet, I do not say that it is fully safe because there are past issues about ledger nano S where the sellers and retailers are able to get the fund of the users. That is why for those who want to buy ledger nano s make sure that you will buy at the legit sellers. I've been using it for more than 2 years and my funds are still safe. Research more if you want to buy and use hardware wallets. The decision is in your hands and you can protect your funds by having knowledge.

Lucius

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I am a Ledger Nano S owner for years, and a few months ago I bought a Nano X so maybe I'm not too objective when it comes to advising what to buy. Although there are a large number of hardware wallets on the market today, if you are looking for proven devices that have a long-standing reputation, there is no doubt that the choice will be narrowed to Ledger and Trezor.

Considering the vulnerability that is detected in Trezor models, and it concerns physical attack, let's say that this is for some reason enough to opt for another option. If as many as 37 characters long passphrases is required to prevent hacking, it doesn't really look good. On the other hand, it would be really foolish to say that Ledger has 100% secure devices, but at this point, they seem like a logical choice to me.

The main task of hardware wallets is to isolate and protect private keys, or to prevent hacking (remotely or physically), but many people still base their decisions on design, which should not be crucial when it comes to security.

Here's another hardware wallet that isn't mentioned too much, maybe because of the price Roll Eyes

https://gray.inc/collections/corazon-wallet

Kunnu

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I don't think you missed any effective hardware wallet in your list all of them are brilliant especially Ledger and personally it's my first choice in hardware wallets because its use is very easy to understand with simple method that's why mostly crypto community prefer Ledger hardware wallets.

okae

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Well for me Leger nano and Trezor are the best of all of them, but there is a huge diference between them, at least for me, Trezor is Open source while Ledger is not.

Both are greats but if i need to choose between them i will take Trezor instead of Ledger just because of that point.

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The best for me is Nano Ledger and Trezor they have been around for so long and proved their worth.
And they are the most well known hardware wallet to be honest I haven't heard the other hardware wallet maybe since I already trust my hardware wallet and I don't need any other wallet.

joniboini

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Quote from: Zicadis on January 31, 2020, 12:12:24 PM

Alright, well it looks like the Trezor is off the list;

I will just re-quote your post over there to point out that this 'hack' could happen to other wallets too, so it's not a good reason to strike out Trezor from the list.

Quote from: Zicadis on January 31, 2020, 11:42:17 AM

Well these kind of attacks were always going to be possible. For example, anybody who has access to your hardware wallet could simply install a device that records your PIN and transmits it wirelessly, or install cameras in the room or pressure-sensitive film over the buttons to register your presses and record the PIN.

Anyway, answering Harizen questions should give us a better pov to help you. For example, if you just need to store Bitcoin and some top 3 altcoins, Ledger Nano S is probably good enough. If you need to use it as a 'mobile' wallet, then Nano X is a better option if you also look for ease of use.

Note: I'm a Nano S user since 2 years ago.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 30, 2020, 06:54:47 PM

Sticking to the trusted names is always a good idea. We should not be innovative in situation where money is involved. I would always recommend the first two wallets in the list to anyone who is planning to buy. I have been using Tezos for a year now and have not faced any issue with it.

Don't you worry, I know OP knows what he's doing in the search for a hardware wallet and is aware of the known and trusted hardware wallets in the market now.

Quote from: Zicadis on January 31, 2020, 12:12:24 PM

Jesus, I mean I'd love to have that hardware wallet, but I expect that costs north of $3,000.

Hehe.

I'll wait until the bounty ends and maybe this is another wallet to be on the list of owning. But, if it tends to be breakable and this bounty didn't end well, no need to even desire for this or any other wallet. Tongue

Dabs

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Trezor has not been "hacked" ... it's just the way it is without a passphrase. Plus, they need physical access to the wallet.

I say, if anyone can get physical access to your person, you're screwed no matter what.

Zicadis

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Dump it!!!

Alright, well it looks like the Trezor is off the list;

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kraken-security-labs-just-15-minutes-to-hack-both-of-trezors-crypto-hardware-5222188 <- it's just been hacked.

Will drop some merits for those who provided useful suggestions now, thanks guys!

Quote from: passwordnow on January 30, 2020, 06:50:03 PM

I've spent time looking for those hardware wallets that you have missed. And I've seen this one[1] on Hardware wallets

[1]Hardware Wallet GK8 offering $250000 to hack it

Actually, if I'm about to buy, I'll not choose any new or another kind of wallet. I'll stay to Ledger wallet or probably Trezor with both models.
Currently, I own a Ledger Nano S.

Jesus, I mean I'd love to have that hardware wallet, but I expect that costs north of $3,000.

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