What are the differences between ShadowCash and Darkcoin ? Both seems very nice - page 2.

Coolstoryteller

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Quote from: tacotime on February 05, 2015, 04:35:12 PM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on February 05, 2015, 04:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

Clearly from a reputable source:
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/10/05/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-for

Stuff the wiki has wrong:
(1) Keccak was announced as SHA3 in 2012, BCN/CryptoNote was being developed in late 2013 https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/keccak_is_sha-3.html
(2) CN doesn't use Chaumian blinding (signature blinding)
(3) Bitcoin implementations up to this point use non-deterministic k values, talk of using an HMAC to generate them has been relatively recent. You could make your own implementation that uses it though. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-usage-of-dsa-and-ecdsa-digital-signature-algorithms-rfc-6979-285142
(4) "Being ASIC-resistant CryptoNote-based currencies can be easily manipulated by NSA possessing big computational resources." This is simply pure conjecturing

I would reach out to them and get that corrected Tacotime. Should only take a few moments.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on February 05, 2015, 04:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

Clearly from a reputable source:
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/10/05/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-for

Stuff the wiki has wrong:
(1) Keccak was announced as SHA3 in 2012, BCN/CryptoNote was being developed in late 2013 https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/keccak_is_sha-3.html
(2) CN doesn't use Chaumian blinding (signature blinding)
(3) Bitcoin implementations up to this point use non-deterministic k values, talk of using an HMAC to generate them has been relatively recent. You could make your own implementation that uses it though. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/deterministic-usage-of-dsa-and-ecdsa-digital-signature-algorithms-rfc-6979-285142
(4) "Being ASIC-resistant CryptoNote-based currencies can be easily manipulated by NSA possessing big computational resources." This is simply pure conjecturing

Coolstoryteller

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Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:31:22 PM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on February 05, 2015, 04:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

What is that supposed to imply? You do realize that the NSA has a hand in an extensive variety of cryptography research, right? You use algorithms and protocols developed with NSA funding on a daily basis. Furthermore, all of the things listed on that article are speculation.

I'm not implying anything, you should contact the poster on wikipedia to find out what they are implying. Apparently that post is related to CN based coins not SDC. I'm simply saying I'm glad that controversy isn't related to SDC since it is Bitcoin based.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on February 05, 2015, 04:16:04 PM

Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

What is that supposed to imply? You do realize that the NSA has a hand in an extensive variety of cryptography research, right? You use algorithms and protocols developed with NSA funding on a daily basis. Furthermore, all of the things listed on that article are speculation.

Coolstoryteller

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Quote from: Brilliantrocket on February 05, 2015, 04:09:01 PM

I think this quote from smooth summarizes SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

I didn't see "XMR" or "BCN" in the title of this thread. The shameless promotion "distills" the "essence" of your motives here.

Interesting bit of information I found in the comment section of the recent SDC article regarding Cryptonote, which is why I'm glad SDC doesn't share it's codebase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoNote#NSA_involvement

"Darknote" is also a CN based coin in the top 100

Brilliantrocket

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I think this quote from smooth distills the essence of SDC rather effectively.

Quote from: smooth on January 25, 2015, 03:29:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on January 25, 2015, 03:22:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on January 23, 2015, 08:17:42 PM

There are no other cryptonote-based coins in the top 100 on coinmarketcap besides XMR and BCN.

SDC uses a cryptonote-based design for their anonymous tokens, which is a bit different in terms of coin design and doesn't share code but the cryptography is almost identical.

They call it "zero knowledge solution" though.

Perhaps that is self descriptive.

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All right. So there's a lot of opinions, make yours.

Let's just stop here before this grows into another massive flame.

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Quote from: Dofus on February 05, 2015, 01:52:33 PM

Lol pumping it... Just wanted to ask questions.
And by the way a old coin is not 100% of times a good coin or the best coin

No, but in this instance it is. Nobody gives a shit about Shadowcash. If you do, you don't know very much about how this whole "cryptocurrency investment" thing works.

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Quote from: nutildah on February 05, 2015, 01:20:10 PM

Shadowcash is some smalltime alt that you are pumping whereas Darkcoin is an established cryptocurrency with a huge following and a far greater degree of legitimacy and respect within the community (aka, anybody who knows anything about cryptocurrency).

That's the difference.

Lol pumping it... Just wanted to ask questions.
And by the way a old coin is not 100% of times a good coin or the best coin

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Shadowcash is some smalltime alt that you are pumping whereas Darkcoin is an established cryptocurrency with a huge following and a far greater degree of legitimacy and respect within the community (aka, anybody who knows anything about cryptocurrency).

That's the difference.

chuki

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SDC is lol!!
Dark is the Future, trust me

Dofus

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Quote from: PoS on February 05, 2015, 10:10:26 AM

The main differance is the fact that Darkcoin is a outright scam!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7535561
dev will dump you his free generated coins for ever

I don't trust you, DRK is maybe not as good as other "anonymous" coins like SDC and others for example, but it is definetly not a scam.

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Quote from: PoS on February 05, 2015, 10:10:26 AM

The main differance is the fact that Darkcoin is a outright scam!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7535561
dev will dump you his free generated coins for ever

Let's not get into a drk scam debate please. Drk passed the Scam accusations a while ago. That being said I have some drk, but the majority of my anon holdings is in sdc.

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If you can be anything, be kind and fair

The main differance is the fact that Darkcoin is a outright scam!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7535561
dev will dump you his free generated coins for ever

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Quote from: WealthyBastard on February 04, 2015, 09:51:19 PM

Nice post, I made an other one better I think
I'm glad to see there are ppl in the same case as me !

Well we're very probably not alone you now

WealthyBastard

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Nice post, I made an other one better I think
I'm glad to see there are ppl in the same case as me !

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Quote from: systh on February 04, 2015, 01:41:59 PM

Yep, SDC is insanely undervalued. Too bad I don't have more BTC now, would love to grab some more :]

Btw are you aware of the fact, that DRK tried to acquire SDC?
http://shadowtalk.org/topic/252/darkcoin-proposal-statement/

Very interesting man ! Thanks

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a little update about that crypto review, this is taken from irc less than 15 minutes ago:

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9:46 PM <•TrollsRoyce> my understanding of the forthcoming review is it will cover shadowsend in depth, any potential attack vectors found in the actual system and then a comparison between other systems, zerocoin, darkcoin, bitcoindark, cryptonote versus shadow

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Juicin' crypto

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Quote from: tacotime on February 04, 2015, 03:22:58 PM

SDC is a reimplementation of the CryptoNote technology using secp256k1 instead of EdDSA Schnorr signatures (hence it can't do some things that CryptoNote coins can, like cryptographically indistinguishable multisignature transactions). Gmaxwell did this a while ago, but didn't release it to the public because he was concerned it would just generate scam coins with unfair distributions seeking to capitalise on technology that was borrowed. DarkNote uses a hybrid Proof-of-Stake system to do coin-joining. That is, a series of master nodes is selected, you send them your inputs and intended outputs, then they help you mix them with the outputs of others.

Well said

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Quote from: tacotime on February 04, 2015, 03:22:58 PM

SDC is a reimplementation of the CryptoNote technology using secp256k1 instead of EdDSA Schnorr signatures (hence it can't do some things that CryptoNote coins can, like cryptographically indistinguishable multisignature transactions). Gmaxwell did this a while ago, but didn't release it to the public because he was concerned it would just generate scam coins with unfair distributions seeking to capitalise on technology that was borrowed. DarkNote uses a hybrid Proof-of-Stake system to do coin-joining. That is, a series of master nodes is selected, you send them your inputs and intended outputs, then they help you mix them with the outputs of others.

Isidor Zeuner?! Is that you?! Oh sorry, my bad… a Monero Dev (regards to smooth)

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