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There are no limits how much money we can use to place a bet but we must realizes that we should determine by ourselves. We don't have use much money to place a bet because we knows the risks and consequences of placing a big bet which will makes us lose much money. We must prevents that if we can't accept the outcomes later so we just place some money and wait for the outcomes. If that's related to my salary, I will allocates some small amount that I can use as my budget to playing gambling and I will not breaks my limits and always trying to remember my limitations. When some friends asks us to place a big money more than we usually use, we can refuse it and will stick to our limits so we don't have to lose much money. We must responsible with our money and not placing the big bet.
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I love the fact that while making the post you mentioned "useless" because from my own perspective it's absolutely an irrational act to involve oneself in a bet that might end up ruining your life or reputation but some silly shit.

At some point I thought of some of the above mention scenario as a challenge not necessarily bet because at the end the opponents doesn't stake anything and the staked thing (salary as used by OP) is just a bait to get the person in action although it turns out to be a very stupid behaviour.
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 Generally, bet or betting are done between two parties and based on my point of view, considering betting in terms of your naratives I will  categorized it in two ways,
1. Betting in an occasion of or interms of where the two parties involved will have something to win or loss as a prize.
2. Betting in an occasion of or interms of where only one among the parties will have something to lose as a prize, there are senerio cases where there can be so much believe about the possible outcome of an event.

I would say that betting has no limits and the only common sense about betting is justification of self believe, you only bet on what you believe in terms of having possible outcome, be it a joke or in real time.
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Today I'm going to address a slightly more serious subject. Do you know these meaningless bets? What do people usually do in circles with friends?

Children's bets like: you can't do it (any random action within the context and environment), I'll bet my salary...

If the bettor has bet something... be it money or some personal item, is the bettor obliged to pay? What does your jurisdiction say about this?

But now, what if a person bets something in a joking tone (e.g. betting on his salary) and a conversation that was supposed to be a joke ends up becoming hysteria, where the man may have said that because he was drunk or was naturally exalted due to the heat of the moment... remembering that in this example, he bet his salary, and if he won he would not win anything from the person he bet against (he just wouldn't give the salary to the opponent who would receive the bet...), can the person who would "win" the bet force the friend who made this childish bet?

Have you ever made a bet that led to an embarrassing situation or do you know someone who has?

What are the limits of a bet, can a bettor bet something that he is unable to pay? i.g: betting your own life or 10 years' salary? And also without gaining anything in return, since he only bet against and didn't bet anything if that bettor won...

Or as long as everything was done in a contract that such unusual types of bets would be worth?

You can use as a source of argument, this news that I will leave linked here.

In the examples below, the news that a man bet that he would take the virginity of a religious woman, ended up marrying her because he fell in love in the process, but a friend let it slip that this was the result of a bet between co-workers, the what do you think about that?



https://www.metropoles.com/vida-e-estilo/mulher-descobre-que-marido-fez-aposta-para-tirar-sua-virgindade

https://extra.globo.com/noticias/page-not-found/homem-viciado-em-apostas-perde-mulher-em-jogo-ela-estuprada-por-um-grupo-24798954.html

A man's code of honor requires him to give whatever he has put at stake should he lose on a game, regardless of if whether it was a joke, or if it wasn't. People who grew up to "it was just a joke man" end up having no cajones nor the trust of their friends when it comes to these things. Why? Cause they pull back on whatever they have put at stake soon as they realize they aren't going to win in it. That makes for a bad game and an overall bad experience for everyone involved.

So yeah, even as a joke, even if the kids are involved, if a bet was placed on the line, everyone must respect the rules of the game and no one shouldn't intervene (unless extreme events occur thereof of course) this teaches the kids some form of responsibility, as they know that whatever they put in the line, they have a real chance at losing and they must respect it whatever happens.

As for your example, it's a fucked up bet, it's a stupid bet, but it's a bet regardless, whatever happens between the married couple are for them to divulge upon, but it has to be said that they made a bet, a fucked up bet at that, that they have to respect. 
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But now, what if a person bets something in a joking tone (e.g. betting on his salary) and a conversation that was supposed to be a joke ends up becoming hysteria, where the man may have said that because he was drunk or was naturally exalted due to the heat of the moment... remembering that in this example, he bet his salary, and if he won he would not win anything from the person he bet against (he just wouldn't give the salary to the opponent who would receive the bet...), can the person who would "win" the bet force the friend who made this childish bet?
The thing is, it will be based on the friends involved in the game, as we need to remember that the game was carried out between two friends who know each other very well, and there was no written agreement on how the game will be settled if one person wins the game and the other wants to disagree.
 
Some friends will easily remit the money to whoever won it, but some will drag it along, saying they never made such a bet, knowing fully well that there is concrete evidence against them.
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What are the limits of a bet, can a bettor bet something that he is unable to pay? i.g: betting your own life or 10 years' salary? And also without gaining anything in return, since he only bet against and didn't bet anything if that bettor won...
The limits of these sorts of bets are determined by the parties involved, And depending on what the limits are, is what will determine if it's a serious bet or not. For instance imagine me betting to remit the sum of $100 million to a friend for a bet when me and him as well knows that I do not have that kind of money available to give to him even if I end up losing.

can the person who would "win" the bet force the friend who made this childish bet?
The way we used to do this then was that we have someone who would serve as a middleman to hold what we have bet with before we started playing the game. The job of this middleman was to give what we have bet to whichever party wins because we knew the reluctance a loser will have to give out what he has bet after he looses. So to avoid that, the middleman functioned very fine.
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Lol I think you're taking this type of bet a little too seriously.  I think we've all made all sorts of crazy nonsensical bets over the course of our lifetimes, I sure know I have.  At this point in time, one of my friends always jokes that he owes me an entire cow because we've bet so many steak dinners that he's lost, and that I've never collected on ( I'm a vegetarian now so there's no way I'm ever going to see a payout of those bets lol).
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Every gambler has his level of responsibility when it comes to Gambling activities and often times, that level of responsibility is measured by how they stake coupled with how much time they attribute to making bets and engaging in gambling activities. In gambling the common sense I would attribute this post to discussing about is actually that of being able to properly manage your stakes as a responsible gambler during Gambling activities.
This is because if you observe closely gambling addicts are classified as addicts mainly because of their inability to economically manage their funds during bets. Therefore most of them end up staking irresponsibly. As responsible gambler should stake what he can afford to lose not important funds like his salary or income earnings.
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      -     The question is, what does making a bet do to a casino gambler? Of course the player's mind in a casino is to win, and when they win they have money that can be withdrawn when it accumulates a large amount.

And it also depends on what type of game in the casino and usually it is sports games, poker and others where someone often gets a jackpot prize in casino gambling. Right?
Or maybe they are able to bet because it gives them full satisfaction.
They bet on purpose and if you are into gambling, winning can give you more satisfaction though some gamblers even if they lose the money they are still satisfied because they have a different purpose in gambling and probably its more about entertainment. Gamblers have to set limits on their own as they gamble within the limit and if you want to be more safe from addiction, better not to be greedy and stay on your purpose and target.
everyone who is into gambling knows that they advantages of gambling is more of lesser than they disadvantages because any Gambler knows that opportunity of gambling winning cannot come always so there is every possibility for you to lose in your seven game you bet and the no one you can win so they decide to take anything that come across both winning and the losing and gambling as a challenge
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      -     The question is, what does making a bet do to a casino gambler? Of course the player's mind in a casino is to win, and when they win they have money that can be withdrawn when it accumulates a large amount.

And it also depends on what type of game in the casino and usually it is sports games, poker and others where someone often gets a jackpot prize in casino gambling. Right?
Or maybe they are able to bet because it gives them full satisfaction.
They bet on purpose and if you are into gambling, winning can give you more satisfaction though some gamblers even if they lose the money they are still satisfied because they have a different purpose in gambling and probably its more about entertainment. Gamblers have to set limits on their own as they gamble within the limit and if you want to be more safe from addiction, better not to be greedy and stay on your purpose and target.
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I have a rule that I always use strictly to avoid breaking this rule and that is that I don't place bets on things outside of the sports betting site, which is why I avoid making predictions or betting on bitcoin price predictions in the threads that I've seen it in the games and rounds section because when a person gets used to betting on everything they see, there comes a time when that person has no limits on the things they shouldn't bet on, I, for example, have seen In my country, someone bet that my country's opposition candidate would not be able to become president of my country and that person placed his wife as a reward in case he lost. In other words, this person said that if he makes a mistake, the opposition candidate in my country will not become president of my country

So the person who guesses correctly that my country's opposition candidate will become president can have his wife. This type of bet shows that this person from my country no longer has limits on what he should or shouldn't bet on. When people reach this level, they are able to bet the house they live in, they are able to bet their children and other things. people must have limits, people must know that in betting they must have a value of money that will not pass, rules must be set, when people do not set rules and limits, then they easily lose everything
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Probably the best lack of common sense bets in the history of betting....

You know there is no sense in betting when it's not realistic, will you take a bet from a guy who will jump in a building if he loses, and if you take a bet and win will your conscience put you to sleep if the guy takes it seriously and jump in the building.

 
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"A picture is worth a thousand words" even if there are words in that picture:

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In the examples below, the news that a man bet that he would take the virginity of a religious woman, ended up marrying her because he fell in love in the process, but a friend let it slip that this was the result of a bet between co-workers, the what do you think about that?
Betting is far from this scenario, rather I think both the man and the religious woman were secretly in line ve with each other but didn't know how to express it, from the story you can see that none that so believe in religion without any interior motives will take such bet in a real scenes because she won't be having anything to win from the so call bet, and a bet is when you win something at the end of the round.


I think what happened between the two individuals is just like last ve in the movie's, where also many action need to be taken before the real love story began, and lastly I don't think anyone should ever bet with something as sensitive as this even if there is a winning bounty for the winner .
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If the bettor has bet something... be it money or some personal item, is the bettor obliged to pay? What does your jurisdiction say about this?
Yes, such person is obliged to pay if only the next person in question could proof they actually placed a bet on either money or something valuable. Because bet is just like an agreement, which must be honored, irrespective of whatever condition that may arise. Because what can only make such bet not stand is only if there is no witness or an agreement which binds both parties (i.e either written, audio or video record) to proof the authenticity of it. Hence, it's always good to have a bet agreement documented.

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But now, what if a person bets something in a joking tone (e.g. betting on his salary) and a conversation that was supposed to be a joke ends up becoming hysteria, where the man may have said that because he was drunk or was naturally exalted due to the heat of the moment... remembering that in this example, he bet his salary, and if he won he would not win anything from the person he bet against (he just wouldn't give the salary to the opponent who would receive the bet...), can the person who would "win" the bet force the friend who made this childish bet?
No bet is childish, because what can only be referred as childish is if only there was no concrete agreement between both parties, because inasmuch as there was an agreement between the two parties, then such bet is considered valid and must be honored.
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Have you ever made a bet that led to an embarrassing situation or do you know someone who has?

There was actually one time where I was on a winning streak in a physical casino. It really got into my head that I was winning so I was very cocky at that time and announced that I would bet $1,000 in one go. Well long-story short, I lost all the money that I have won that night and I even incurred more expenses along the way since I risked my monthly savings during that time.

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What are the limits of a bet, can a bettor bet something that he is unable to pay? i.g: betting your own life or 10 years' salary? And also without gaining anything in return, since he only bet against and didn't bet anything if that bettor won...

I think the limit in what we can bet is the things that we have.

Obviously, we cannot bet something that we do not own but there may be some instances where you could bet something that is considered "extreme" in the normal sense. The perfect example here would be the infamous "Russian Roulette Game" where people would bet their own lives on a gun.
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       -     The question is, what does making a bet do to a casino gambler? Of course the player's mind in a casino is to win, and when they win they have money that can be withdrawn when it accumulates a large amount.

And it also depends on what type of game in the casino and usually it is sports games, poker and others where someone often gets a jackpot prize in casino gambling. Right?
Or maybe they are able to bet because it gives them full satisfaction.
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If the bettor has bet something... be it money or some personal item, is the bettor obliged to pay? What does your jurisdiction say about this?

Of course if a bet is between two persons both should honor their bets it will lead to quarell or even a fight if one party will not or cannot honor his bet, when you bet you should show that you can pay the bettor


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Have you ever made a bet that led to an embarrassing situation or do you know someone who has?
Yes like betting on a cock fight but I really don't have enough money I just received a tip that the other cock is weak and it's going to lose, I ended up making a promissory note its a very embarrassing situation and I never did it again

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What are the limits of a bet, can a bettor bet something that he is unable to pay? i.g: betting your own life or 10 years' salary? And also without gaining anything in return, since he only bet against and didn't bet anything if that bettor won...

Or as long as everything was done in a contract that such unusual types of bets would be worth?

No you should not bet in an unusual kind of bet, bets should be realistic and both parties should know what the bets are all about and they can honor their bets, betting is never a joke if you're going to bet take it seriously it  is different when you do it with friends and you all understand that its a friendly bet.
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example, he bet his salary, and if he won he would not win anything from the person he bet against (he just wouldn't give the salary to the opponent who would receive the bet...), can the person who would "win" the bet force the friend who made this childish bet?


This just reminds me of the scene from Fast and Furious, Dom gets nothing but respect from the loser. Cheesy

I don't know the story inspired from the scene or the otherway round but anyway there is no point of staking something that you have and get nothing in return if you win the bet, what's the point of doing it?

It's not childish, it's stupid though.
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From what I understand what is bet is, both parties involved most stake something so that whoever losses will have to miss something. If a bet is only on one person, I will not call it a bet. The casino or sport bets that we use for our staking activities have a lot of money in which we can win, and it is because of this money that is making a lot of people to gamble, because if you win, you will get paid and if you lose, the casino keeps your money. So betting only on one side shows a sign of unseriousness a joke to me because it is only the bettor that will lose. Sometimes, those kind of bets are done orally, and should not be taken as a bet. I have not involved in such game because I feel it is cheating, because I know my friends they will definitely want you to do whatever you said. Will I call such a promise or something.
Very true my dear, before anything is called a bet, they parties must mutually stake something of value to make it a bet, because one person must either win or lose something of value be it money, property or any other tangible things available. just like the casino or betting shop that you cited earlier both of them have their money to risk and that is why they cannot allow you to play without risking your money too because if you win you will go with their money and if you lose vice versa.

gambling or betting should be symbiotic in nature because that is the fun, and that is also the reason why the bettor will take it very seriously, though i have seen friends who bet orally just to have fun and probably to keep themselves busy, gambling is also fun and sweet when you stake something reasonable because the amount you have staked brings out your seriousness.

They can call it betting, but that is not betting but 'promise'. If someone said he bet with you and only you or the person has something to lose while not having anything to gain if he or she wins, you are only promising yourselves. Betting means someone has to lose. There are two opponents that bet, there most be a loser and a winner. The winner takes the money of the loser while the winner also risked his or her own money.
Excellent answer guys, when only one side has to lose, why should we call it a bet, given that in a bet, it must be something agreed between the pairs involved and both one and the other need to agree to bet something of value?

Now, for someone to force you to do something just because they said it out loud in a joking tone is bad character in my opinion, as it is a character defect.
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