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Topic: What are the two unregulated "Money Transmitter" states? (USA) - page 2. (Read 7954 times)

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So this means if Mt. Gox was in one of those states, they wouldn't of had money seized?
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The primary significance of those states is for local bitcoin sales or exchanges.  So, miners located in those states that sell their mined coin, for example, might be able to avoid state licensing requirements so long as they are selling those coins to people within the state.

Wouldn't they also be able to use an exchange located outside of the country?

In some cases a foreign exchange could solicit and service customers in those two states without licensing in those states.
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The primary significance of those states is for local bitcoin sales or exchanges.  So, miners located in those states that sell their mined coin, for example, might be able to avoid state licensing requirements so long as they are selling those coins to people within the state.

Wouldn't they also be able to use an exchange located outside of the country?
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The primary significance of those states is for local bitcoin sales or exchanges.  So, miners located in those states that sell their mined coin, for example, might be able to avoid state licensing requirements so long as they are selling those coins to people within the state.
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According to this PDF document prepared by Thomas Brown at UC Berkeley the two free states are South Carolina and Montana.

Somebody found my cheat sheet!

I don't suppose you would be so kind as to share your opinion on what significance (if any) there is in SC and Montana not having these regulations, as it relates specifically to the Bitcoin legal landscape?

Is this more along the lines of an interesting piece of trivia or something that people who are starting up Bitcoin based businesses should possibly consider when choosing where to operate, incorporate, etc...?

I guess, I don't see any evidence of a whole bunch of current fiat-based institutions locating themselves in these states or anything (please correct me if I'm wrong), which tells me that the "free" states are sort of free in name only? 

My guess is:

If you are operating as a money transmitter in a state that doesn't require a license; then you would only need to register with FinCEN. But that would be if you are only doing business in that state. With the current guidance of FinCEN (until/if it is further clarified), the advantage I could see; is a miner would then be able to sell units that he/she mined on an exchange such as BTC-E. Again this is only a guess, as I'm not a lawyer.
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According to this PDF document prepared by Thomas Brown at UC Berkeley the two free states are South Carolina and Montana.

Somebody found my cheat sheet!

I don't suppose you would be so kind as to share your opinion on what significance (if any) there is in SC and Montana not having these regulations, as it relates specifically to the Bitcoin legal landscape?

Is this more along the lines of an interesting piece of trivia or something that people who are starting up Bitcoin based businesses should possibly consider when choosing where to operate, incorporate, etc...?

I guess, I don't see any evidence of a whole bunch of current fiat-based institutions locating themselves in these states or anything (please correct me if I'm wrong), which tells me that the "free" states are sort of free in name only? 
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According to this PDF document prepared by Thomas Brown at UC Berkeley the two free states are South Carolina and Montana.

Somebody found my cheat sheet!
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"Forty-eight US states regulate money transmitters although the laws vary from one state to the other.[3] Most of the states[4] require a surety bond with widely ranging amounts from as little as $25,000 to over $1 million and maintaining a minimum capital requirement."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_transmitter


What are the two free states?


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According to this PDF document prepared by Thomas Brown at UC Berkeley the two free states are South Carolina and Montana.

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"Forty-eight US states regulate money transmitters although the laws vary from one state to the other.[3] Most of the states[4] require a surety bond with widely ranging amounts from as little as $25,000 to over $1 million and maintaining a minimum capital requirement."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_transmitter


What are the two free states?


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Did you do that just to direct us to an MSB lawyer with virtual currency know-how? http://moneytransmitterlicense.blogspot.com/  Cheesy

Lot of the links are broken. All 50 states listed, so dunno which two don't have MSB laws... Kansas and NY don't seem to have a pinpoint on the state-by-state map...

https://www.paypal-media.com/licenses
Paypal has licenses for everywhere but South Carolina and NY.

So, looking like definitely NY (which seems really, really unlikely - but I guess possible), and either South Carolina or Kansas.

ETA: http://www.shajlaw.com/newyorkmoneyservicebusinesslicense.html Paypal must have some way to get around MSB in NY, but I'm pretty sure I counted 48 states and 2 non-states in PP's list, which'd indicate there's only one state without MSB license requirements.

From map on first page linked:
South Carolina: Currently no regulation
WY and NY definitely have regulation, though.
ETA2: It looks like KS does have MSB requirements, but are apparently very difficult to find Cheesy
ETA3: SC definitely has something on the books... I'm getting tired of combing through bureaucratic crap at this point, though. Smiley
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South Carolina and Wyoming

amirite?
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"Forty-eight US states regulate money transmitters although the laws vary from one state to the other.[3] Most of the states[4] require a surety bond with widely ranging amounts from as little as $25,000 to over $1 million and maintaining a minimum capital requirement."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_transmitter


What are the two free states?


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