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Quote from: Kakmakr on November 22, 2016, 01:09:43 AM

Quote from: DGulari on November 21, 2016, 08:06:12 PM

Why does everyone just stand around doing nothing while nullc / Blockstream / GMax takes over Bitcoin?

Did people say this when Gavin was in control and the Lead developer? People want their bread buttered on both sides. They complain that Bitcoin cannot scale to accommodate for mainstream adoption, and when someone develop something to address that, then they still complain about them.

SegWit and LN is probably not the best option, but it is better than nothing. Increasing the Block size to help with the scaling problem, will only increase the possibility that we will have a spam fest and more attacks on Bitcoin.

So what is your solution to the problem?

so segwits 'fee discount' is not going to entice a spammer by making cheaper bloated tx's more often.
and do you think someone maliciously wanting to spam will use LN?? think about it

as for the capacity boost.
the 1.8x of (2500 average tx) or 2.1x(2150 slightly bloated realistic more multisig tx) both equal ~4500tx IF 100% of people used segwit
same argument is
IF 100% of people done lean 1in 1out traditional transactions(not segwit) we would get ~5200tx (the good old 7txps promise)

Sir Alpha_goy

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So I talk about a factual day (Bitcoin Pizza Day) and the thread gets scrubbed almost instantly and the op can call everyone a sheep and it stays?

Welcome to the Bitcoin state.

Follow the status quo.

No wonder you guys are divided.

Roll Eyes

Read some spam: http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-713227.html

QuestionAuthority

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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Do you know how much of their lives these guys have devoted to Bitcoin? Andresen and Maxwell have lived and breathed Bitcoin from the very beginning. So they've figured out a way to massively profit from Bitcoin. They earned it. I bet Maxwell has spent more time moderating Bitcoins IRC channel than all of you combined have spent on this forum.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 27, 2016, 12:59:06 AM

Did it not occur to you that the Bitcoin Unlimited people want to fork away Bitcoin from the core developers?

This is precisely what should happen - and what probably will happen as soon as a few more Chinese miners stop sucking GMax's dick and grow some balls of their own.

Wind_FURY

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Quote from: DGulari on November 21, 2016, 08:06:12 PM

Why does everyone just stand around doing nothing while nullc / Blockstream / GMax takes over Bitcoin?

You are all sheep too. Did it not occur to you that the Bitcoin Unlimited people want to fork away Bitcoin from the core developers? Do they have coders as good as the ones working on Core? Stop the FUD and quit the politics. All roads point to bigger blocks anyway, with or without Segwit. But give it time.

luthermanhole

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Lol wtf are we supposed to do mate

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Quote from: karawantbtc on November 23, 2016, 04:36:56 PM

This is one big virtual pissing contest. There needs to be a better way to make these decisions. Way too many people involved. This is a case where a little centralization might be better.

Bitcoin is fully centralized. Whatever GMax says - goes. Until Chinese miners grow balls, highly unlikely, the blockchain belongs to Blockstream.

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Quote from: pereira4 on November 23, 2016, 01:49:51 PM

The guys you mentioned are putting hard work and dedication into making bitcoin better and make it scale in a viable way that doesn't centralize nodes, unlike Roger Ver and the rest of idiots that don't even know how to code and act as if they know shit about how bitcoin works beyond shitposting on internet forums.

Yup, many of those who want to make a bitcoin became better, but unfortunately there are some people who give it a view and incorrect criticism or jealous over their hard work that has been done by some people who want to see the bitcoin grow into a better and more feasible to use by everyone. Chances are those who can not work well in the bitcoin, so these plans of hate

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This is one big virtual pissing contest. There needs to be a better way to make these decisions. Way too many people involved. This is a case where a little centralization might be better.

pereira4

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The guys you mentioned are putting hard work and dedication into making bitcoin better and make it scale in a viable way that doesn't centralize nodes, unlike Roger Ver and the rest of idiots that don't even know how to code and act as if they know shit about how bitcoin works beyond shitposting on internet forums.

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Quote from: lottery248 on November 22, 2016, 07:47:29 AM

this thread is for general discussion about bitcoins, i mean, please no hybrid between bitcoins, litecoins, Trump's, and too much more, that's leads me feel that this thread comes to be off topic. Huh

Yes that is right to say, we should be limited to bitcoin and try to avoid off topic I think we are here to promote bitcoin, therefore your discussion should also be limited to bitcoin and specially in this forum.

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Quote from: Holliday on November 23, 2016, 01:21:25 PM

Quote from: DGulari on November 23, 2016, 10:57:05 AM

Let's get back to the original Bitcoin which did not have 1MB limit. That is Bitcoin. That is what Satoshi invented. Satoshi did not invent SegWit and the ridiculous LN. Those are alt systems. Go launch those on your own fork.

Do it. What are you waiting for? You don't need Blockstream's permission. Create a block bigger than 1mb today. As soon as you do that, you will separate yourselves from the Blockstream fork. Then everyone can go their separate ways and everyone will be happy!

Amen. this is an open source project and ANYONE is free to make their own fork. People are really complaining because the network does not agree with them and these forks just die. It's not that we're sheep, it's that we don't like the idea.

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Quote from: DGulari on November 23, 2016, 10:57:05 AM

Let's get back to the original Bitcoin which did not have 1MB limit. That is Bitcoin. That is what Satoshi invented. Satoshi did not invent SegWit and the ridiculous LN. Those are alt systems. Go launch those on your own fork.

Do it. What are you waiting for? You don't need Blockstream's permission. Create a block bigger than 1mb today. As soon as you do that, you will separate yourselves from the Blockstream fork. Then everyone can go their separate ways and everyone will be happy!

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I believe nothing is taking Bitcoin over. And it would be very hard for anything to even come close to overcoming Bitcoin. Comparing to usual money it is new and unstable. However, BTC already has years of history, many ups and downs on its way and some countries recognize it as money. I think BTC will only become stronger in future.

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Quote from: DGulari on November 23, 2016, 10:57:05 AM

But I can tell you SegWit does nothing more than hijack Bitcoin to become the proprietary network of the Blockstream corporation.

Core is also cloning Bitcoin to make their proposed alt. SegWit is a fucking altcoin. SegWit is not Bitcoin.

Please link me to the lines of code that do this. If you are unable to, then this makes you a lying manipulator. FYI segwit is not an altcoin as that would require it to have its own chain.

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Quote from: yayayo on November 22, 2016, 06:15:08 PM

Another FUD thread by the professional XT/Classic/Unlimited trolls. The disciples of Roger Ver are panicking that Ver might run out of funds to pay them, when SegWit activates and UnimitedCoin goes down the drain.

Everyone who has at least basic technological knowledge will agree that SegWit is great step forward in terms of security and scalability of Bitcoin. Ver is trying to manufacture dissent out of pure self-interest - he is heavily invested in altcoin ventures that will loose their value, once SegWit and LightningNetworks increase Bitcoin's capacity and flexibility. The whole blockstream-takeover and censorship propaganda is a joke - not even a good one.

The disciples of Andresen/Hearn/Ver are repeating the same nonsense over and over again. However development work for their stellar UnlimitedCoin client is very limited: Cloning an outdated Bitcoin codebase and doing a single change that will destroy Bitcoin's network decentralization.

ya.ya.yo!

ya.ya.yo! = world class dumbass.

Everyone with tech knowledge does not think SegWit is a great step forward. That claim is the same rubbish that nearly all your claims tend to be.

Ver's self interest in alts has nothing at all to do with most of the anti SegWit. I don't know Ver and don't hold any alt. But I can tell you SegWit does nothing more than hijack Bitcoin to become the proprietary network of the Blockstream corporation.

Core is also cloning Bitcoin to make their proposed alt. SegWit is a fucking altcoin. SegWit is not Bitcoin.

Once GMax attached SegWit to Bitcoin, Blockstream is forever your daddy.

Let's get back to the original Bitcoin which did not have 1MB limit. That is Bitcoin. That is what Satoshi invented. Satoshi did not invent SegWit and the ridiculous LN. Those are alt systems. Go launch those on your own fork. Taking over Bitcoin to launch your stupid alt is just wrong.

'destroy Bitcoin decentralization' - This is precisely how you know Core is full of shit. This argument is absurd. On this point alone, people should resist SegWit. SegWit doesn't serve a problem with Bitcoin. SegWit only enables a Blockstream takeover of Bitcoin.

kiklo

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Your Chances to do something and not be sheep.

Everyone BoyCott BTC for 24 hours because of the Ignored Transaction Problems
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1690300

Cool

FYI:
Topic was censored. Boycott is still on for 24 hours for all that can.
At least we might clear the transactions log enough to unfreeze the people's money.
But Censorship is alive and well on BTCtalk.

yayayo

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Another FUD thread by the professional XT/Classic/Unlimited trolls. The disciples of Roger Ver are panicking that Ver might run out of funds to pay them, when SegWit activates and UnimitedCoin goes down the drain.

Everyone who has at least basic technological knowledge will agree that SegWit is great step forward in terms of security and scalability of Bitcoin. Ver is trying to manufacture dissent out of pure self-interest - he is heavily invested in altcoin ventures that will loose their value, once SegWit and LightningNetworks increase Bitcoin's capacity and flexibility. The whole blockstream-takeover and censorship propaganda is a joke - not even a good one.

The disciples of Andresen/Hearn/Ver are repeating the same nonsense over and over again. However development work for their stellar UnlimitedCoin client is very limited: Cloning an outdated Bitcoin codebase and doing a single change that will destroy Bitcoin's network decentralization.

ya.ya.yo!

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Who cares as long as it has a positive effect on the value. Which its seems to be doing, right. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Just get it done.

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Quote from: DGulari on November 21, 2016, 08:06:12 PM

Why does everyone just stand around doing nothing while nullc / Blockstream / GMax takes over Bitcoin?

Was curious about the mindset to call people as a group "sheep" and not include ones self in the grouping.
Like any aspect of life people do not care till they care and little changes that aspect. Jumping up and down rarely gets attention or change in these respects as people go blind after seeing repetitive issues paraded like the sky is falling. Has it fallen yet?
Wake me up when it does,comfortably positioned in the middle of the flock.

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