Topic: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis? - page 3. (Read 486 times)

This is advice that is applicable in the US where I guess any child can buy a firearm and then commit a massacre because he had bad grades in school. I can tell you that if I want to own a firearm legally in the EU, I have to go through a very complicated multi-level screening process, and that includes personal interviews with all my neighbors to assess whether I am crazy, dangerous, or something else.

If people committed suicide just because their things became truly stupid then few would survive various crises and challenges. Fortunately, we are not all crazy about guns...

What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.

It’s good to learn how to save money in such a situation, you shouldn’t be spending too much on a lot of things, because when you do, you would lack money to buy the most important things which you are going to need. Then like you have said, planting food is also a really good idea, because when you plant food, you would get to have food for you to eat and wouldn’t have to be going out to spend money on buying those stuffs.  Buying preserved food also seems like a good idea too, though not so much to me.

canning with mason jars is pretty easy.

I do a few bushels of tomatoes for sauce.

Learn to dry meat into beef jerky. both beef jerky and mason jarred tomato will last a long time.

get a quality water filter and filter the water boil it and can it in mason jars.

Get dry beans. store in metal bento boxes.

get rice. store in metal bento boxes.

I can do all of the above for under $500 usd. I would have supplies for a few months  if I did it.

learn to make varied meals from above. you will need some basic spices.

Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.

I want to say to those who suggest not to expense your money on less important things and offer storing foods. I don't think it can be the solution.

Everyone cannot contribute in this matter at this moment. Since it comes to the global food crisis, Even with the high price, You will be unable to buy food because if there is no food, How you will buy them? It's as if there is no food at all. But, If there is less food but expensive, In this case, Poor people will suffer from this.

If everyone steps up, It's possible to defend against the food crisis.

If you live in a village side, Start farming whatever you can. If you can farm rice, Do it. If you can vegetables, Do it. Start Saving Money.

Cats, dogs, rodents and pigeons can all be carriers of COVID afaik.

There isn't an elevated risk of contracting COVID or other illness from chickens, in contrast to other domesticated mammals.

Have you ever heard of creative financing?  I'll make up a new thing right here called creative chicken keeping. It involves city dwellers forming creative relationships with those who live in rural areas in city outskirts nearby to keep, feed and house their chickens at affordable prices!

I'll say this. I always thought farming was difficult and back breaking work where specialized knowledge was necessary. But as I learn more, I'm beginning to realize its not as hard as I thought it was. I think others could have a similar experience if they tried.




Begging in the streets is the advantage of cities.

In traditional terms, cities also had better job options for entry level personnel. Easier access to surplus food. And easier access to assets for potential theft.

But things have changed a little. The permaculture off grid movement is gaining traction.

Cities no longer cater to the poor the way they did in past eras. In many cities its illegal to feed the homeless. Park benches have anti homeless deterrents built into them.

The homeless can no longer expect cities to feed and cloth them as generously as they did in past eras of history.

I think what the average person can do in this time of food crisis is to run into agriculture. Planting is a source of taking care of what would have been bought with money. A farmer always have variety of food to choose and eat from. The families of farmers always grow fat which is the evidence of good living. At least most farmers apart from taking their food from the farm, they also sell left overs to generate money for other things needed. This is a second option to what a farmer can do, to save and reinvest money in farming.

It's worth considering the audience or who is actually writing the response for it to be relevant. I have seen numerous studies in the past that show that many countries in places like Europe and North America can have an extremely wasteful attitude when it comes to food. Over production is a huge thing and the amount of food that is thrown out every day by places like supermarkets is huge. A small factor in that is also the idea of an expiry date, which is generally a good idea for keeping food in a safe condition, but it definitely takes the most cautious view and consumers can be induced to throw out good food. Consumers should make a rational decision e.g. a block of cheese, which is essentially mould, that looks fine will most likely be safe for one or two extra days past expiry. Expiry dates are a great thing for manufacturing companies as it induces constant buying.

This is bad but thanks for the early warning. Poor people should act now and do what they can possibly do in order for them to survive the upcoming food crisis. Yes it's fine to buy food supplies now because they are still cheap but I think this will only apply to the supplies that doesn't expire easily because we don't know if how long the crisis will last or when it will start.

For the vegetables, we cant buy them in advance and stock them in the shelves for a long time because they can go bad easily so yes the only way is to plant them yourself in your own backyard. We can also sell them apart from using it on our own. That should give us some extra money.

More than just "will they work" but it's more like billions won't do anything about it. We are going to go straight into a food crisis, it's going to be a terrible thing in the near future and nobody will do anything to neither prevent it nor be ready for it. Sure there will be "some" people who will get these type of preventions but at the same time we are talking about something that will be rarely done hence why it will not be a big number.

So, the best thing you could do would be to make sure you are doing much better in financial sense, hence when the prices of food increases, we could afford it, even if they are very expensive.

An average middle-class person who leaves in average environment(not urban main town  but area with availability of land with less expensive price) can survive by producing 80% of what he uses as food. It is very possible.

I vividly remember my childhood experience when my family will travel to the village to spend the Christmas period. I discovered that the villagers enjoy everything for free, I mean for free.
1. My grandfather will also go fishing and hunting. If he doesn't capture an animal, fish is compulsory, will get it. So the fish and meats my grandma uses for food are never bought.
2. Grandma plants all kinds of vegetables at her backyard. So she only buys salt for food as all other ingredients for food is produced by her.
3. There are fruit trees of different type in the compound.
I meant everything was free and I wished never to return to the city. But every January I would be forcefully taken back to the city against my wish.

When covid-19 started, I was first to rush back to a free home and behold there was no effect of covid-19 in that beautiful city. So, a low class citizen living in a freedom home is already protected against food scarcity.

The best you can do is farm if you have enough land to do that. But if you are living in a city, then the best you can do is store dry food for the long term. However, there are foods that can be grown inside your apartment or on the rooftop. Extra food should be stored with the right procedure so that it can be eatable after a long time. Using ancient methods to store food would be good then.

Yes. that is so true - we have increased our resources so much that we face unnecessary trouble.
Good food, limited stuff, limited gossips, cutting off with toxic people are a few things an averge Joe can do to save himself and the other.

Limiting the unwanted expenses and buying foods that will last for longer time period is the good solution. Many people are used to specific food habit, and they should look for the alternate. Right now the main focus should be on food to survive and not on costly and tasty ones. In the short term it is impossible to grow crops. Understanding the time it is good to sow some seeds of different vegetables like spinach.

Joe can help in his little space - he can grow his food. Share food with the other.
promote organic and natural stuff. Also - as mentioned above by saving water and doing a little waste can be very helpful to the joe as well as for the planet.

Exactly, it will really help people to overcome food crisis in their environment, if they will be able to follow the procedure farmers used to preserved their crops for long period of time. Am into peasant farming with the little money I made from crypto investment few months ago which will really help me to make more food available for my family to enjoy. I think many people will like to embrace this advise to avoid food crisis in their country by going into peasant farming to make food stuffs available for their family consumption. 

I don't know if these will work, but I think this might help to average JOE's there like me.

Never mind the wants and focus more on needs. Let's focus more on the things that we need like food and not buy the things that we want. Buying foods that will take a long time to expire might help as well. Being practical will help too since we need to budget our money especially us average and poor people, in order to have some money to be used on buying food. Having a different mindset of focusing more on needs rather than the wants. Planting some vegetables in our backyard will help.

The negligence on agriculture is what could result to this global food crisis. So far agriculture has been replaced with oil & gas alongside metal investment. It's of recent crypto came into the picture. Encouraging agriculture on a commercial base is the only way to curb the food crisis or make some sort of compulsory memorandum that will ensure every plants something no matter their profession

The idea of buying and storing food is not bad, but it’s not like it would never finish, so what happens after the food finishes? It’s not like if you buy and store food it’s going to last forever, so when the food finishes, you are still going to buy at the current rate that those food stuffs are being sold.

So that really doesn’t change much, but I would say that the good thing about buying food to store is that you would buy them in buck, and that would possibly reduce the price a bit, because when you buy in large quantities, sellers would give you some kind of discounts. So, the best thing here would be on working on your means of income and also investing, so that he would be able to buy at any rate.

Some simply don't get it.
Let's take cows, for example, they don't care about anything, they don't care about summer or wintertime, they don't care about the rain outside, they won't give a damn yesterday was your birthday, they don't care it's Xmas, easter, your wedding, as soon as the sun starts to rise they will start a tantrum in the shed nobody will be able to sleep around. It's training, it's cold, you're sick, no, you have to go and bring them fresh water and straws, you can't imagine the noise if you ignore piglets or you're going to have the shock of your life seeing your chickens with half of their feathers left if you left them caged in.
I wouldn't want to go back to living on a  farm even with the current technology, we have automated gates and feeders I can control from the house, but those mean money, a ton of money.


And, the shit! The tons of tons of animal shit you have to clean, every day from the floor, from the alls, even from their feeding through, tons of it in all color and density. How would this look in real life, famine, famine after famine as we go back closer to a hunter-gather civilization!
If this shit would have worked we wouldn't have famine in the poorest countries of the world where everyone lives on agriculture, but surprise, it doesn't work like that.


Then why in every famine known to men people are fleeing to the cities and not the other way around? It's still the same even now
https://www.globalhungerindex.org/issues-in-focus/2018.html
As I said, there is fantasy and there is reality!