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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

No one knows what's behind in his disappearance after he released bitcoin in public, we also didn't know if he really forget everything or maybe he is watching us anonymously. These are all hunches and theory about Satoshi's disappearance by applying the fact that the Governments hate his invention, therefore we came up with different conclusion to solve his mystery that until now is still unsolved.

If he comes back after 10 years and no one would believe him, he just need to do one thing, and that is proving he is the real deal.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

I think there are secret organizations, including government agencies that would want to take over Satoshi. However, this person will never reveal himself.

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Quote from: Eclipse26 on November 22, 2019, 12:32:30 AM

The government can't harm him. He did nothing that go against the law. Though if he reveal himself, he's still in danger because there are a lot who would probably want his bitcoin and such. If don't want to work with the government, he's free to do so... Or maybe he is just not greedy when it comes to fame. Maybe he's contented with what bitcoin have achieved.

No government can harm him, the whole Cryptocurrency community and the media will protect him because he will become a very huge commodity and news if he finally comes out, the real one I mean.
But with the huge amount on his wallet, I don't think he is safe roaming alone, the government where he's citizenry is based will probably protect him if that government is lenient in Cryptocurrency, but the chances for him to surface is nil or zero, he has a good chance in the past.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

If Satoshi Nakamoto is a singular entity, he could be brought in by different countries for questioning just for the simple fact that his ideas and technologies have caused a world wide disruption to the way ledger keeping and finance currently work. Satoshi's model of Blockchain and Bitcoin has altered the course of financial and economical history. More and more countries are considering the fact it's citizens are dabbling within cryptocurrency. I think Satoshi foreseen what his actions could do, and took a great deal of time and energy to remain hidden and anonymous as possible.

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In my opinion, governments in various countries are very interested in the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, because Satoshi Nakamoto's
creation is already create a financial world uproar. With blockchain technology that is fairly effective and efficient, but until now there
has been no one that can reveal the identity of satoshi nakamoto.But maybe because satoshi nakamoto is too genius and does not leave
trace so the government can not do anything. There is doubt in my mind why the USA government with all the sophisticated equipment
and their great intelligence cannot reveal the identity of satoshi nakamoto.Maybe it's not unrevealed, but did not want to open this mystery
from the beginning. Maybe it was just a stupid thought from me, in my opinion just leave Satoshi remain anonymous. Because the most
important thing is that the creation can still be used and useful, in my opinion that's already enough.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 24, 2019, 05:18:54 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 21, 2019, 09:30:31 PM

Nothing. They can do nothing because what they have is just a plain pseudonym behind which no single person knows the real identity or identities.

I have such a hard time believing that the US government couldn't figure out who one man who posted on bitcointalk is if they wanted to. I mean, really.

But I've long held the suspicion that there is no Satoshi, that this is not a single man we're talking about but rather a group, and probably part of a government agency as well. Remember that when bitcoin was introduced there was the big fear that the banking system would collapse because of the real estate crisis caused by big banks. If that were to happen, people were talking about ATMs refusing to dispense cash and people losing access to their money. Bitcoin probably seemed like a brilliant solution to that in 2008--and it would have been had we seen a disaster like the one that was feared.

Don't you think the IRS would be interested in one person who'd minted himself all that bitcoin that hasn't moved yet? I don't know what the tax laws are exactly, but right now all of that bitcoin is worth a hell of a lot. You would think that someone would really want to find out who Satoshi is. But I think that genesis block bitcoin was put into reserve in case of a rainy day, or a full-blown, bank-ending economic crisis.

I shall now remove my tinfoil hat.

Let me borrow that hat of yours some other time.

The weird thing in our reality today is that conspiracy theories, such as the one you've just narrated quite interestingly, sound so foolish yet probably true. People need to caution themselves when things seem to be unfolding in the most perfect ways at the most perfect time; they are happening under the careful hands of the authorities.

But I don't share your views, with all due respect. Gavin wouldn't have been invited by the CIA in an exclusive meeting to brief them about Bitcoin if it is theirs in the first place.

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Quote from: uray on November 24, 2019, 12:36:24 PM

I really did not understand what you are thinking here, why would anyone in the financial market wanted Satoshi to be killed. The mystery of the creator will continue until and unless someone come up with a valid explanation with the signing of the earlier known wallets and if that can be proved we can assume that the creator is back and the government cannot do anything about that as long as he did not cross any law.

Not to be killed in my perception, but to become compromised because if we are satoshi, and we know all the future of what bitcoin could be, it is our personal security to consider hiding from the public. In addition, they might talk to Satoshi, offers a huge amount of money to control bitcoin. So, to avoid other external influences, it is the best decision to stay anonymous and let bitcoin determine its faith without him.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 21, 2019, 09:30:31 PM

Nothing. They can do nothing because what they have is just a plain pseudonym behind which no single person knows the real identity or identities.

I have such a hard time believing that the US government couldn't figure out who one man who posted on bitcointalk is if they wanted to. I mean, really.

But I've long held the suspicion that there is no Satoshi, that this is not a single man we're talking about but rather a group, and probably part of a government agency as well. Remember that when bitcoin was introduced there was the big fear that the banking system would collapse because of the real estate crisis caused by big banks. If that were to happen, people were talking about ATMs refusing to dispense cash and people losing access to their money. Bitcoin probably seemed like a brilliant solution to that in 2008--and it would have been had we seen a disaster like the one that was feared.

Don't you think the IRS would be interested in one person who'd minted himself all that bitcoin that hasn't moved yet? I don't know what the tax laws are exactly, but right now all of that bitcoin is worth a hell of a lot. You would think that someone would really want to find out who Satoshi is. But I think that genesis block bitcoin was put into reserve in case of a rainy day, or a full-blown, bank-ending economic crisis.

I shall now remove my tinfoil hat.

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Quote from: Micerker on November 24, 2019, 12:30:42 PM

the indentity of satoshi is still mysterious till now, some big boy in tradictional finance market might want to kill him I think

I really did not understand what you are thinking here, why would anyone in the financial market wanted Satoshi to be killed. The mystery of the creator will continue until and unless someone come up with a valid explanation with the signing of the earlier known wallets and if that can be proved we can assume that the creator is back and the government cannot do anything about that as long as he did not cross any law.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

the indentity of satoshi is still mysterious till now, some big boy in tradictional finance market might want to kill him I think
but anyway, his creation is now world wide used, and I think kill him is no help, but hiring him for work is better choice. ^^

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Since Satoshi Nakamoto is smart enough to come up with Bitcoin which required tremendous flow of idea and predicting what would it be like far from the future that’s why we have what we called “halving” and many other more. This I think is one of the proof that Nakamoto had hidden himself behind this name since he knew that it would be controversial if his identity would be known and is essential for Bitcoin to become decentralized in a way that they could not be taken from the people by exploiting him as the weak link and also for his personal security. That’s why I think that he is smart enough to hide himself in order for the governments would kot do anything to him as what your question said.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on November 21, 2019, 09:30:31 PM

What will the government do then? Join the hunt? If they are really bent on jailing Satoshi Nakamoto to earn the applause of banks, they should just drag Craig Wright to jail and they already won.

The government will not win here because Craig Wright has not actually invented bitcoin. Because if they were to arrest and detain that person now I'm sure they would not have the necessary information to break the bitcoin system that only the true Satoshi Nakamoto could do.

So it seems to me that the government will find it difficult to find out who satoshi actually is because for almost nine years we have no idea what really happened to bitcoin's founder.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

It's always the game of those in power, that's why he chose to live in anonymity rather than in short-term popularity that would risk his life and his creation. I have admired him of his decision and like a hero, he opened the eyes of the public that it is possible to have a monetary system away from traditional banking monopolies. Though he did a great job, he knows that these people who runs these monopolies won't be happy of what he did and thus he made his decision to not be found ever again.

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Actually he just made the bitcoins and he went , I don't think that the government can do anything against him because after a certain period of time no one saw any involvement of him and this is something even the government notices. The whole idea of bitcoins being a currency which is anyomous is this only that no one can be held responsible for it's actions and government would surely want to press charges against him but it's not his fault , he made it and gave it to people , people used it according to themselves .

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

satoshi is like a super hero who helps the country in terms of global economic recession and then he disappears without expecting praise from people, and if the government finds true satoshi they might ask to collaborate so that bitcoin can be controlled by the government so that every bitcoin holder can be taxed to benefit the government with tax collection from bitcoin.

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If Satoshi is not unknown, the government might ask him to pay taxes for creating bitcoin? Or probably, the government might always watch what Satoshi is doing? He could be one of the most successful and richest person in the world. And since some governments see bitcoin as a threat to their currency, they might see Satoshi as an enemy? There are a lot of possibility that might happened and maybe Satoshi taught of that before that's why he remains anonymous.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

If the identity of Satoshi was known, the government of various countries will try to either make Satoshi give them the ownership of blockchain technology and also try as much as possible to turn the whole blockchain network of Bitcoin into a centralized system where they will rather control the rate at which transactions are done on the network. It is highly impossible for the governments to kill Satoshi if they knew his/her identity. Most government wants to own and control blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies as a whole. The only problem most governments have with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general is the decentralized nature of it and the idea of no one controlling how transactions are done.

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

I do not think that some of the governments would like to kill Satoshi))) Buterin created ETH, but he is still alive)))) Governments are puzzled mostly by the moment how to take all the crypto processes under controll and how to regulate peoples' assets, and how to get maximum taxes from their citizens. In my opinion nobody can do something with Satoshi... He is really a legend now))) But his creation is working and it is popular)))

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Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

When he first started the BTCitcoin project Satoshi might be nervous because the government had the power to shut down the project in the initial phase and he might think that it is not that great for him and his personal life but things changed we now have a global market that is accepted in most of the countries and there are many developers who developed coins and projects after that and are walking free without any issue.

Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

I usually wonder what would have been his scaling solution as he left the project too early to have any major input after releasing the technology, so you cannot say that Satoshi predicted everything perfectly.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on November 22, 2019, 05:26:58 AM

Quote from: IwantMoonBefore2020 on November 21, 2019, 09:23:46 PM

If He Forget everything on purpose ? Cheesy

( Like The genius for remember everything 10 years later everything he did making something he is alone able to see them ).

He know governements probably want to kill him or want him to work for them so he take the risk to be forgotten forever as a legend.

Imagine what he was able to do in 2008 already, when no one in world have the power to change the world, he was the one to believe he was able to start the revolution alone and change entire world by himself.

Nothing, he predicted everything perfectly, he will comeback one day i think he is already back but to crazy like 10 years ago no one believe him already.

We don't really know if Satoshi would really comeback one day but most of us are really hoping for it.
I think the government wouldn't do anything to Satoshi as you could see most of the Satoshi wannabe is still safe and sound.
And we don't really know if Satoshi is still alive right now because it has been 10 years already and we don't know how old Satoshi was when he/she created Bitcoin so he/she could have died already due to illness or being old.

I think if he comes back the noise will be all over the planet!But it he closed to governments, and this is proved by its silence.

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