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hero member
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People have been waiting for an opportunity to buy, and the price was driven low by several factors

1) the regular bitcoin periodic trend line was somewhat due to a dip
2) the FUD around china
3) the FUD around mtgox
4) a lot of greed From people waiting cheaters coinmap

When the FUD started to become less likely and when a bottom was reached allowing the bears to buy in the price started to rise. Now people who still haven't bought are starting to worry the price may not get lower again, so they will soon start a buying spree which might trigger a run.

A new run/bubble/ATH is due around June/July and to reach an ATH in July the price should see an increase by the beginning of May, which will become insane somewhere late may or early June.

I wouldn't be surprised if it would hit 5000+

+ AGreed
legendary
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People have been waiting for an opportunity to buy, and the price was driven low by several factors

1) the regular bitcoin periodic trend line was somewhat due to a dip
2) the FUD around china
3) the FUD around mtgox
4) a lot of greed From people waiting cheaters coinmap

When the FUD started to become less likely and when a bottom was reached allowing the bears to buy in the price started to rise. Now people who still haven't bought are starting to worry the price may not get lower again, so they will soon start a buying spree which might trigger a run.

A new run/bubble/ATH is due around June/July and to reach an ATH in July the price should see an increase by the beginning of May, which will become insane somewhere late may or early June.

I wouldn't be surprised if it would hit 5000+
hero member
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If you are correct then we would have a massive retraction in mining ..at the moment it cost ~ 300 to produce 1 btc and LTC its at ~8-10

You are then saying that we are going to drop 50% of the network for both btc & ltc

I dont see that happening and ppl will just hold than sell for those prices....it would be a catastrophic result for crypto if this happened and we would need to question the validity of the experiment if we had prolonged holding at these prices IMHO

a) That depends on where the miners are based.

b) I am pretty sure that it was much more costly to produce 1 BTC in Nov 2011 than $2.

c) How likely do you consider it is to be, that the very first crypto-currency ever produced happens to hit the nail right on the head and doesn't run into issues which basically means 'back 2 the drawing board'?

There are no fundamental problems that I can see.... ANd this would mean a major retraction in the mining sector ...including all but 0.4 c a k/w in washington state ....dubia and iceland

This knocks out 80%+ of all GPU rigs ... this would be a huge impact and I would be switching of my 70m farm as well 

I just dont see this happening .... 
hero member
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If you are correct then we would have a massive retraction in mining ..at the moment it cost ~ 300 to produce 1 btc and LTC its at ~8-10

You are then saying that we are going to drop 50% of the network for both btc & ltc

I dont see that happening and ppl will just hold than sell for those prices....it would be a catastrophic result for crypto if this happened and we would need to question the validity of the experiment if we had prolonged holding at these prices IMHO

a) That depends on where the miners are based.

b) I am pretty sure that it was much more costly to produce 1 BTC in Nov 2011 than $2.

c) How likely do you consider it is to be, that the very first crypto-currency ever produced happens to hit the nail right on the head and doesn't run into issues which basically means 'back 2 the drawing board'?
hero member
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U are seeing it wrong ...but thats fine ... I am "ALL IN" anything sub 500 is good to go

My Mid-Long term it is all good ..sometimes looking for the bottom bottom you will be "A DICK FOR A TICK" and miss the move

Sure the chinese are fucking with us but there are some absolute awesome fundmentals going on

ATLAS as a trading platform with OPTIONS and leverage has sealed the deal for me... we may go lower we may not but I am not missing the rocket... this is round 3 for me and its going to be awesome

Then stack up while we are still sub $500 dude!


......see ya at $250 sometime in mid May.

If you are correct then we would have a massive retraction in mining ..at the moment it cost ~ 300 to produce 1 btc and LTC its at ~8-10

You are then saying that we are going to drop 50% of the network for both btc & ltc

I dont see that happening and ppl will just hold than sell for those prices....it would be a catastrophic result for crypto if this happened and we would need to question the validity of the experiment if we had prolonged holding at these prices IMHO
hero member
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U are seeing it wrong ...but thats fine ... I am "ALL IN" anything sub 500 is good to go

My Mid-Long term it is all good ..sometimes looking for the bottom bottom you will be "A DICK FOR A TICK" and miss the move

Sure the chinese are fucking with us but there are some absolute awesome fundmentals going on

ATLAS as a trading platform with OPTIONS and leverage has sealed the deal for me... we may go lower we may not but I am not missing the rocket... this is round 3 for me and its going to be awesome

Then stack up while we are still sub $500 dude!


......see ya at $250 sometime in mid May.
hero member
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Dude ... you are over cooking it .... fear has left the market place

Pplz have adjusted to the new status quo and up we go Cheesy

I am buying just like u are ...lolz

We will see.

and I aint buying, I am selling.

I was fooled by the March 2014 spike to $710, as were many people. I amn't fooled by this one, just as many other people won't be. I very much doubt that Bitcoin will burst out of it's long term down trend in spectacular fashion, but rather limp and groan across it at much lower prices, so low that nobody even cares that the trend has been breached.

U are seeing it wrong ...but thats fine ... I am "ALL IN" anything sub 500 is good to go

My Mid-Long term it is all good ..sometimes looking for the bottom bottom you will be "A DICK FOR A TICK" and miss the move

Sure the chinese are fucking with us but there are some absolute awesome fundmentals going on

ATLAS as a trading platform with OPTIONS and leverage has sealed the deal for me... we may go lower we may not but I am not missing the rocket... this is round 3 for me and its going to be awesome

hero member
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Dude ... you are over cooking it .... fear has left the market place

Pplz have adjusted to the new status quo and up we go Cheesy

I am buying just like u are ...lolz

We will see.

and I aint buying, I am selling.

I was fooled by the March 2014 spike to $710, as were many people. I amn't fooled by this one, just as many other people won't be. I very much doubt that Bitcoin will burst out of it's long term down trend in spectacular fashion, but rather limp and groan across it at much lower prices, so low that nobody even cares that the trend has been breached.
hero member
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But that is old news, that is not why the price suddenly shot up today. I was wondering myself if there was some piece of news that was released today that I missed. But in browsing the forum and google, I cannot find any news consistent with the price boost today. Maybe the general market is anticipating a price boost after the 15th and decided to get in early on it. I bet we'll be trading in the 500-600 by the end of the week.

This was instigated on the Chinese exchanges a few minutes before the USD exchanges jumped on board. The Chinese exchanges which may or may not be largely faked volume. It also coincided with a cross over of the 1 day MACD, similar to jump from $400 - $580 - $710 in March of which this $340 - $410 - $475 jump is thus far a near perfect fractal of, with decreased price ranges and time spans. It also coincides with a full moon in China (it was evening in China when pump was kicked off).

As I type, Huobi is front running the cross exchange price action and has formed quite a different chart from Bitstamp.

I personally don't think the lowest low is in and I find it incredible that genuine Chinese investors are clamouring to pile into Bitcoin right on the eve of their central banks deadlines on banks working with Bitcoin exchanges. Sure, there may be yet another 'work around' just like the last time but the writing is surely on the wall for Bitcoin in China. The PBOC will not tolerate such an obvious and easy means of capital flight, tax evasion and undermining of their economy, should it be allowed to grow, so they will make sure it doesn't, without actually banning Bitcoin itself.

Most sinister scenario is that this was a price spike timed to collide with some important longer term TA indicators, based on largely fake Chinese volume and the end result will be greatly increased buy-in support in tranches below the inflated spot price followed by yet more Chinese dumps on USD exchanges. Outwith that, such a sudden sharp surge of buying power out of knowhere just doesn't make any fkn sense to me.


Dude ... you are over cooking it .... fear has left the market place

Pplz have adjusted to the new status quo and up we go Cheesy

I am buying just like u are ...lolz

hero member
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But that is old news, that is not why the price suddenly shot up today. I was wondering myself if there was some piece of news that was released today that I missed. But in browsing the forum and google, I cannot find any news consistent with the price boost today. Maybe the general market is anticipating a price boost after the 15th and decided to get in early on it. I bet we'll be trading in the 500-600 by the end of the week.

This was instigated on the Chinese exchanges a few minutes before the USD exchanges jumped on board (many trading bots respond to action across all exchanges). The Chinese exchanges which may or may not be largely faked volume. It also coincided with a cross over of the 1 day MACD, similar to jump from $400 - $580 - $710 in March of which this $340 - $410 - $475 jump is thus far a near perfect fractal of, with decreased price ranges and time spans. It also coincides with a full moon in China (it was evening in China when pump was kicked off).

As I type, Huobi is front running the cross exchange price action and has formed quite a different chart from Bitstamp.

I personally don't think the lowest low is in and I find it incredible that genuine Chinese investors are clamouring to pile into Bitcoin right on the eve of their central banks deadlines on banks working with Bitcoin exchanges. Sure, there may be yet another 'work around' just like the last time but the writing is surely on the wall for Bitcoin in China. The PBOC will not tolerate such an obvious and easy means of capital flight, tax evasion and undermining of their economy, should it be allowed to grow, so they will make sure it doesn't, without actually banning Bitcoin itself.

Most sinister scenario is that this was a price spike timed to collide with some important longer term TA indicators, based on largely fake Chinese volume and the end result will be greatly increased buy-in support in tranches below the inflated spot price followed by yet more Chinese dumps on USD exchanges. Outwith that, such a sudden sharp surge of buying power out of knowhere just doesn't make any fkn sense to me.
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But that is old news, that is not why the price suddenly shot up today. I was wondering myself if there was some piece of news that was released today that I missed. But in browsing the forum and google, I cannot find any news consistent with the price boost today. Maybe the general market is anticipating a price boost after the 15th and decided to get in early on it. I bet we'll be trading in the 500-600 by the end of the week.
hero member
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Time is on our side, yes it is!
Aliens ...

No, seriously, it could be big Players influencing the Price on purpose or some new Business that wanna start using BTC but isn't going public about that idea, yet, etc.

You can not always find an answer in the News.

Dang you stole my answer...  Anything that happen is because aliens hahahaha.  I like the way you think I also have a feeling major swings like today are likely induced by whales.
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What do you think how many of them are convinced longtime BitcoinHodlers and how many are just rich Aunties who like to prank with a flashy cool asset as long as its easy to handle?
legendary
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I don't think we are talking about the average Chinese citizen.

ETA: It's the 15th in China now.
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Its not about if they continue operating or not, its about how convenient it will be for the average Chinese citizen to trade Bitcoin/RMB. And we are not talking about a few speculators or hardcore bitcoiners here. When the exchanges move abroad, all deposits and withdrawals can only be executed via international bank transfer.. if at all. thats not clear yet
legendary
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Yeah, sounds good. The Chinese will be able to trade BTC without the PBOC being able to drop the rumor hammer? That sounds like great news. The Chinese are bullish right now, but Westerner's know better than them I guess. Not.

My ex-wife's boss (who is a Chinese National) bought 100K worth of BTC this week. Guess he is stupid? I am gonna guess that he knows what the fuck he is doing.
sr. member
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Priceboost makes sense since China wont be banning bitcoins after all (for the time being)
Would be nice if they made a final decision because these (not) banning rumours don't do any good.

What the fuck is so hard to understand.

China NEVER planned to ban BTC. I don't get why people say this is good news.

However they're closing all commercial bank accounts after April 18th dealing with Bitcoin related services. It's pretty much analogous to a ban IMO.

Can't bank transfer to deposit RMB,  and it'll probably be much harder to withdraw in the near future. There's a reason why they're moving oversea.

You call this good news?
It's good news then, no? As they will continue operating.
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They must be crying now if they sold around 300.

soon they will be able to buy back for this price. or even lower Tongue


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China NEVER planned to ban BTC. I don't get why people say this is good news.

However they're closing all commercial bank accounts after April 18th dealing with Bitcoin related services. It's pretty much analogous to a ban IMO.

+1
sr. member
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Goxxed....

Only those got Goxxed who panic sold their coins..!!
They must be crying now if they sold around 300.

Next wall go to $288
sr. member
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Priceboost makes sense since China wont be banning bitcoins after all (for the time being)
Would be nice if they made a final decision because these (not) banning rumours don't do any good.

What the fuck is so hard to understand.

China NEVER planned to ban BTC. I don't get why people say this is good news.

However they're closing all commercial bank accounts after April 18th dealing with Bitcoin related services. It's pretty much analogous to a ban IMO.

Can't bank transfer to deposit RMB,  and it'll probably be much harder to withdraw in the near future. There's a reason why they're moving oversea.

You call this good news?
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