What contributes to a casual gambler becoming an addicted gambler? - page 2.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 18, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

I found out another reason and this time it is about a new gambler. They come into the gambling industry thinking that they can make money and settle their existing debt. This is a myth as gambling can result in more debt if not done properly, I mean a newbie gambling without knowing how to operate a game can be a disaster for. I have experienced it and I did write about it here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escape-debt-with-gambling-a-dangerous-cycle-5485379

If there are people who think they can make money from gambling and pay off their debts, they are losing without realizing it because gambling will not allow them to make a lot of money. They could make money but in small amounts, which is still smaller than the losses they experience. They should realize this immediately, and you can also always advise them to pay off their debts immediately and not to take on any more debts if the previous debts have not been paid off. That will only burden them more, so they will have difficulty paying off their debts.

Why not? Each gambler must have a time that they are lucky but we only don't know it and it may come later, so we could lose a lot first or not as it may come too early. Me and others, I know are successful already to pay our debts after winning in gambling but we are not advising it though.

Yes, it was only small amounts are the ones that will usually give to us by our games and when we play we should erase our previous losses, so that we can appreciate even the small winnings we get and it won't let us to be greedy and end up as a loser instead. Loaning money is addicting and people can make another loan to pay the other, no wonder why many of us are stuck on this problem.

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Unexpected big wins are also the reason for some people who lead them to become gambling addicts, when regular gamblers win with big results they will be surprised and it encourages them to be more active in gambling, and they continue to imagine that winning will happen again, we knowing what the ending will be like, they end up throwing away more money compared to the winnings they get

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Quote from: aioc on February 15, 2024, 06:35:01 AM

I would like to recommend Gambling satisfies them, I know some rich people who gamble because it satisfies them, they don't care if they lose or win they just want the feeling of being alive and challenging the house, this kind of people can be find on physical casinos they like the ambiance, they like to meet new people and they want the perks on physical casinos, so they don't care if they lose a lot of money.
These are extrovert people who loves to mingle and hang around, they also play on online casinos but they prefer physical casinos because they love to express.

Each of us has our own definition of satisfaction. For some it is when they use their allocated amount but I know there are gamblers who can't be contented with it so they end up depositing more. It's only sad that some leads to an addiction. Gambling is for all, not only for the rich and then not all rich are careless but in fact, they are the ones who are more careful about their spendings and this is why they are rich. For those who want to enjoy, indeed they can achieve it better on a physical casino even though there are also social-based casino now where we can chat and pm other gamblers. This makes them stay relevant in the scene.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 18, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

I found out another reason and this time it is about a new gambler. They come into the gambling industry thinking that they can make money and settle their existing debt. This is a myth as gambling can result in more debt if not done properly, I mean a newbie gambling without knowing how to operate a game can be a disaster for. I have experienced it and I did write about it here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escape-debt-with-gambling-a-dangerous-cycle-5485379

If there are people who think they can make money from gambling and pay off their debts, they are losing without realizing it because gambling will not allow them to make a lot of money. They could make money but in small amounts, which is still smaller than the losses they experience. They should realize this immediately, and you can also always advise them to pay off their debts immediately and not to take on any more debts if the previous debts have not been paid off. That will only burden them more, so they will have difficulty paying off their debts.

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I found out another reason and this time it is about a new gambler. They come into the gambling industry thinking that they can make money and settle their existing debt. This is a myth as gambling can result in more debt if not done properly, I mean a newbie gambling without knowing how to operate a game can be a disaster for. I have experienced it and I did write about it here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escape-debt-with-gambling-a-dangerous-cycle-5485379

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In addition to your considerations, I'd mention the psychological excitement. Gambling becomes a desire for some because it excites the brain. Its not just money or getaway, but adrenaline. This thrill-seeking can soon become addictive.

An important aspect is social environment. Casual gamblers can become addicted due to peer pressure or a gambling-glamorized social environment. I's subtle but strong.

And dont disregard mental illness. Gambling often stems from sadness or anxiety. Its a harmful coping strategy.

Taking on these triggers is difficult yet important. Recognizing the issue is step one; getting help is step two. Remember that stopping the cycle starts with you. Be brutally honest with yourself. You'll thank yourself later.

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Quote from: CODE200 on February 17, 2024, 06:52:23 AM

You forgot the obvious one which is gambling gives you the high/happiness that you don't normally get in other things so I'd say that it's probably the most contributor to why someone's addicted to something, maybe forgetting your problems do count as getting the high out of gambling. -snip-

I think that this is the clue. When a substance or activity leads you to a release of your pain, it has the potential to become addictive. The most obvious example is the addiction to painkillers, but other substances and yes, mere activities, have the same potential. For example, with social media there is no "physical product" you take, but infinite scroll makes you forget about everyday worries. If a non-educated or overly sensitive individual get's used to automatically resort to these practices to feel relief, it definitely contributes to becoming addicted in the long term if he loses control over his behaviour.

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You forgot the obvious one which is gambling gives you the high/happiness that you don't normally get in other things so I'd say that it's probably the most contributor to why someone's addicted to something, maybe forgetting your problems do count as getting the high out of gambling. It's hard to know that you're becoming addicted to something first symptoms you're making an excuse that the excess of that thing was a one time thing and then next thing you know, people are seeing you as an addict so the contributing factor towards the transition from a casual gambler to an addicted one is really difficult to pinpoint if you haven't experienced it yet or you don't conduct the study yourself because it's difficult to do so anyways.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 13, 2024, 12:00:51 PM

Let's hear it so that everyone knows.

Definitely,these are most reasons why a regular gambler suddenly becomes addicted. Just as we all know, gambling activities should be done with full attention and the idea that it isn't a means of earning a living. But most gamlers gradually forgets this important facts as soon as they are able to understand little about gambling and gradually they become addicted unaware to them. Having the mindset that you have to have back you loses is also a wrong taught some Gamblers usually withhold and ends up losing even more to this.
Having dream too much over some gambling wins that haven't even arrived sounds more like lunacy to me. Because if gambling requires luck then you should only expect it to play out and plan less until you made your winnings. Don't go out pricing some stuffs with money that haven't even arrived or has no probability of winning. We should try to follow these few steps and remain a responsible gambler.

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And your answer is summarized in the last pound, "an excuse" I think that's enough.
But if logic is correct, anything can be a reason why ordinary gamblers transition into addicted gamblers, I will add a point that I often find in my environment, namely the "influence of the environment" invitation of friends, seeing friends gamble on an ongoing basis, seeing friends get a big win so that it attracts us to play and continue to play gambling, there is a sense of competitiveness that arises to be able to beat the winnings that his friend gets, such as wanting to be arrogant to his gambling friend.

Yes, all the lists that are displayed can indeed be simplified or summarized as reasons that encourage gamblers to act crazier which in the end all these actions do not even lead to something they want such as making money but instead make them enter the addiction phase which of course they even suffer the amount of loss. And yes on the other hand what you said is true about environmental factors which is clear that in any case the environment does have a big influence on everyone, especially on behavior change, But on the other hand maybe this is also quite dependent on each of us if for example you do reject some invitations from friends who like to gamble then obviously you can avoid the name of addiction but if you are influenced unconsciously in the sense that you don't really find out about what gambling really is and then you even start trying to play without knowing any of the dangers then obviously a high probability of addiction will occur, especially as you said if they see the victory that some of their friends managed to achieve then obviously it is like a motivation for them to be even more excessive.

If we look at it from the point of view of each person, I myself will not debate it because it all depends on each person, that sentence is clear in any discussion, but if we look in terms of factor X (which affects) and factor Y (which is affected). of course we will get a lot of elements that can be considered why someone can do that (addiction).

To be honest you are doing a reaffirmation of what I said, thank you because everything seems much clearer about the arguments I made about the reasons that can make someone experience addiction.

Yes because what I mean above is that when someone has the firmness in themselves not to follow or not get carried away with what their friends are doing in their environment then I think it is still quite unlikely that they will eventually get involved in gambling activities, especially if they already know the bad effects along with emphasizing to themselves that they will never want to gamble, unless there is coercion or even threats from people who influence them then obviously there is a high possibility that they will get involved in that activity.

Honestly, because I have a friend in my neighborhood who never wants and is never interested in the gambling that I do, even though most of us are gamblers but he is not at all interested or even tempted when he sees me or my other friends winning. And on the other hand we have agreed that the conclusion to this problem depends on each individual, on the other hand yes it doesn't matter buddy because completing an idea or argument to clarify and direct it in more detail is the obligation of those of us who are here so that there are no misunderstandings and so that people including those here can see from various sides about all possibilities.

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Quote from: Natsuu on February 16, 2024, 07:07:42 PM

I think one morething is that people might get hooked on gambling because it's thrilling and gives them a rush. Also friends or social pressures can play a part in pushing someone from casual gambling to addiction

This differs and is also depends on individuals as none would be pressured on social (Pressure group) to become a gambling addicts because you gamble when you feels like gambling and if you don't wanna gamble you won't become a gambling addicts so i can say it's a choice based option for a gambler to be entirely gambling addicts or lemme say when a gambler focuses more on profits then there is every possibility for she or him to become a gambling addicts.

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Quote from: Solosanz on February 16, 2024, 11:08:13 AM

It's always related to money.

If you're a person who had a 9 to 5 jobs for many years, but if your company suddenly fire you and you haven't find a new job, you will try to make gambling as a source of income.

When you're single, you know how to manage money, but when you've married with someone, your wife will ask many unnecessary stuffs because she want to enjoy their life or envied with other people's achievement. If your job aren't enough to fulfill your family's lifestyle, you will gamble to earn more money.

Well that's one way to go about and I can totally relate to what you are saying but even single and young guys too with no responsibility can get addicted to gambling especially when they see it as a means to get by with their spare time. I have seen cases of a gambler actually getting involved seriously in gambling at a young age because of thrills he had enjoyed or maybe the money he might won previously that made his taught tied to a fact that the money can be coming always.

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The reason I ended up becoming a much more active gambler is because;

- I've experienced several big wins in my whole gambling career already and that experience is something I can't forget.

Because of that winning experience, I continue to gamble in hoping for another shot at that winning experience. For now, I can consider an addicted gambler but not to the point that I'm already at my worst. I'm still a good person when not doing gambling and my finance are always in shape.

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When they become jobless and desperate. So they spend more time gambling thinking that it would be the solution and making them earn money without realizing that this will make them fall into addiction and lose more.

It is a very usual thing to happen when you have nothing to do in your life, we make gambling a gateway to our problems (sometimes getting drunk) and I did this several times to help calm down my mind but yes, the result is somewhat terrible, and it is too late to realize all the thing I've done are wrong. I know some gamblers are doing the same but despite the mess I made, I still manage to control my gambling habits. It is an individual thinking why we fall into that kind of trap when we have the chance to control it.

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Quote from: Natsuu on February 16, 2024, 07:07:42 PM

I think one morething is that people might get hooked on gambling because it's thrilling and gives them a rush. Also friends or social pressures can play a part in pushing someone from casual gambling to addiction

Not really that much of a serious thing if we do compare about the solid reason on why people would really be keeping on playing and this is for the love of money making or
having those winnings in mind. This is what makes someone to be pushed on playing further because they do have set out those kind of particular goals into their minds on which we do know
that this is something that would really be making you desperate on playing even further and this what makes you addicted to it. People would really be just that making those realizations
on the time that they would really be seeing themselves suffer from huge money loss. Dont make yourself that get addicted on it then you should really be just that fine.

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Quote from: Solosanz on February 16, 2024, 11:08:13 AM

It's always related to money.

If you're a person who had a 9 to 5 jobs for many years, but if your company suddenly fire you and you haven't find a new job, you will try to make gambling as a source of income.

When you're single, you know how to manage money, but when you've married with someone, your wife will ask many unnecessary stuffs because she want to enjoy their life or envied with other people's achievement. If your job aren't enough to fulfill your family's lifestyle, you will gamble to earn more money.

The money was the biggest reason for the gamblers to get addicted to the gambling site.Because if the gamblers loss some money,he never get satisfied until the loss was recovered in the gambling site.If the gamblers had achieved some multiple of their capital,he automatically get over confidence in the gambling site.The overconfidence will make the gamblers to increase the per betting amount.So the betting amount will be keep increased by the gamblers.

The gamblers who get married should manage the money from the income to handle their monthly expenses.Many gamblers will able to manage from the winning money from the gambling site.But for that the gamblers should allot the seperate money to the gambling from their monthly earning.

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I think one morething is that people might get hooked on gambling because it's thrilling and gives them a rush. Also friends or social pressures can play a part in pushing someone from casual gambling to addiction

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It's always related to money.

If you're a person who had a 9 to 5 jobs for many years, but if your company suddenly fire you and you haven't find a new job, you will try to make gambling as a source of income.

When you're single, you know how to manage money, but when you've married with someone, your wife will ask many unnecessary stuffs because she want to enjoy their life or envied with other people's achievement. If your job aren't enough to fulfill your family's lifestyle, you will gamble to earn more money.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 13, 2024, 12:00:51 PM

I was wondering what makes someone transition from a casual gambler to a gambling addict. Here are five reasons I've identified.

To find an alternative full-time earning source
Chasing Losses
Lack of Alternative Income earning opportunities
Using Gambling as an Excuse for Personal/Profesional Problems
lDream of Winning Big
An excuse

If you have anything else then do write it down on this thread. This thread is only to help anyone who is into daily gambling realize the incident that led to compulsive gambling or everyday gambling.

This is a self-moderated thread that means if anyone here wants to vent out his or her frustration then they are welcome.

Let's hear it so that everyone knows.

And your answer is summarized in the last pound, "an excuse" I think that's enough.
But if logic is correct, anything can be a reason why ordinary gamblers transition into addicted gamblers, I will add a point that I often find in my environment, namely the "influence of the environment" invitation of friends, seeing friends gamble on an ongoing basis, seeing friends get a big win so that it attracts us to play and continue to play gambling, there is a sense of competitiveness that arises to be able to beat the winnings that his friend gets, such as wanting to be arrogant to his gambling friend.

Yes, all the lists that are displayed can indeed be simplified or summarized as reasons that encourage gamblers to act crazier which in the end all these actions do not even lead to something they want such as making money but instead make them enter the addiction phase which of course they even suffer the amount of loss. And yes on the other hand what you said is true about environmental factors which is clear that in any case the environment does have a big influence on everyone, especially on behavior change, But on the other hand maybe this is also quite dependent on each of us if for example you do reject some invitations from friends who like to gamble then obviously you can avoid the name of addiction but if you are influenced unconsciously in the sense that you don't really find out about what gambling really is and then you even start trying to play without knowing any of the dangers then obviously a high probability of addiction will occur, especially as you said if they see the victory that some of their friends managed to achieve then obviously it is like a motivation for them to be even more excessive.

If we look at it from the point of view of each person, I myself will not debate it because it all depends on each person, that sentence is clear in any discussion, but if we look in terms of factor X (which affects) and factor Y (which is affected). of course we will get a lot of elements that can be considered why someone can do that (addiction).

To be honest you are doing a reaffirmation of what I said, thank you because everything seems much clearer about the arguments I made about the reasons that can make someone experience addiction.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 13, 2024, 12:00:51 PM

Chasing Losses

If you have anything else then do write it down on this thread. This thread is only to help anyone who is into daily gambling realize the incident that led to compulsive gambling or everyday gambling.

Chasing losses is proven to me that a casual gambler can lead to compulsive gambling for a short period of time. In my case, I have a flu that affect my decision making that’s why I become compulsive gambler for a short time due to chasing losses.

Luckily, I manage to survive this dire situation. I stop gambling for a long time due to the trauma it gives to me that time. You can read my experience on the thread I created before https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63053425. I hope no one here will experience what I encounter before because I thought I already lost my savings instantly due to poor decision making.

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