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Topic: What do we do when a campaign is discovered to be a fraud - page 2. (Read 386 times)

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 2124
In this case the campaign 1xbit.com has been accused of scamming its users but still yet reputable members of this forum apply for the campaign.
I'd understand if newbies, Jr members and even some members apply but seeing ranks as high as a Hero member applying on the campaign is mind-boggling.
They have tons of scam accusations against them but Still trying their luck with creating different ANN threads and account on the forum in hope of getting new victims is not new technique for 1xbit casino.The members who have joined the scam projects are not good contributors and active participant on the forum.They have joined because they were offering $140/weekly in their latest thread to the legendary members.So what do you expect from members who just want to join campaign for money even if they are posting anything.They have attained hero or legendary ranks in the past not new and that is why they want to take part in any scam projects.So don't go on their rank as well because every Hero/legendary member is not active in healthy/contributing discussion to the forum but only wants money.
Of course this is not the first time such has happened, CryptopreneurBrainboss, one of the best managers I have been blessed to work with, reported and exposed Burst.money as scam project despite whatever offers the company may have offered him. That shows character and dignity.
This is what makes you one of the reputable manager on this forum with your trust rating being increased and members know that campaign managed under this manager is safe and you will get rewards because he will not promote any scam projects on the forum which can also give him red trust.If you find any such casino or project just report it to the scam and accusation board on the forum with valid proofs to aware others.
hero member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 783
Campaign which is proven scam is not good to join with since if you insist and still join there campaign a high chance that you will be tag. also if you see other do it better report them since its supporting a scam and this should not tolerated since this could harm more people if they will get link to the site promoted like 1xbit participants do.
full member
Activity: 868
Merit: 150
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Report the campaign and everyone who participates in it and don't join the campaign. The reason for reporting those who joined is to make sure that people gets discouraged to participate in it and also try to be active on the campaign thread to warn possible users about the campaign that they are going to join in.
sr. member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 286
It is actually unfortunate that most of the bounty campaigns right now in the forum are usually fraud or scams. It seems like they took advantage of the people's patronization on such bounty campaigns. During the reign of good bounty campaigns, all of a sudden a lot of scams and failed campaigns showed up. There are instances where bounty hunters ended up not recieving the tokens or earnings they deserve for all the hardships they went through to help the campaign or even if they receive it, it took so long. Let us hope the bounty campaigns will get back to how it was before so that bounty hunters will get what they deserve.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1232
In this case the campaign 1xbit.com has been accused of scamming its users but still yet reputable members of this forum apply for the campaign.
No, they aren't reputable users and as I'd say, it's shame to them.  Here is the List of Participant in the promotion of scam site, as you can see, all of them had been tagged. 

If there's a campaign promotion that has been a bunch of accusations, they should not continue promoting scam projects here.  Since scam projects aren't moderated here, negative feedback next to their profile is a good awareness to other users that they are a scam project, and those who are willing to promote scam projects must be tagged too.

I saw most of the participants have legitimate negative feedback on their profile but yet, they are accepted to the signature campaign.  So nothing to worry about because this is visible for most newbies here, it should be a red flag to them.
sr. member
Activity: 2030
Merit: 269
This question has been bugging me lately and I need some answers.
Do we just jump on any and every campaign that comes up even if there is cause to suspect the company is a fraud? In this case the campaign 1xbit.com has been accused of scamming its users but still yet reputable members of this forum apply for the campaign.

They are not reputable anymore if they are going to join the 1XBIT campaign no reputable member of this forum will join a proven scam project, I have seen those who take part, and the majority of them have a red tag, this is the only campaign they can join and all blames will be on their hands if the accusations started to pile up, they should be ban on this forum.
hero member
Activity: 1484
Merit: 928
I believe must don't really care there reputation on the forum anymore must people are just after the money which is very bad I believe as a hero member or as a legendary member before you should launch any bounty I believe you should make proper research before accepting any bounty. I believe as a hero or legendary member should be launching scam bounty that's very bad. That's why currently I have specific bounty managers which I work for because I really trust them and I believe they will not bring scam project which include; Brainboss, hampuz, waprinter. I know there are lot's of scam projects now but even if we are expecting a scam project it should be from a low rank manager like newbies or junior member not a manager with high rank.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 5637
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Rank are not a sign of credibility (specific people are in any case).

Unfortunately, a lot of members (mostly beginners) think that Hero or Legendary members are something special, and we all know that until a few years ago it was only necessary to be active on the forum to achieve such ranks - so members mentioned by OP are not something to be considered respectable members - especially if they are sold in advertising a project that is marked as spam.

As for the campaign mentioned by the OP, I think most of the members were actually bought as alt accounts and the whole thing is actually just a show for the public - no one pays anyone anything.
member
Activity: 122
Merit: 19
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I think you are right. All of us here are now bountying spam. If it were a new member it would be accepted. It is often seen now that any member or hero member is doing it. What can we do? What for them? What action is not taken by theymos? What action must be taken against them. Why do they publish their works without taking their profit?
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
<…> I believe the one of the factors that prove the credibility of a signature campaign is the rank of members they allow to apply <…>
Rank are not a sign of credibility (specific people are in any case). Campaign participants more often than not haven’t got the faintest clue what they are (actively/passively) advertising, and if we take a look back over ICO periods, a large set of forum members of all ranks were bearing a signature or tweeted about a fraud to be in the aftermaths.
It happened to me once, and I even bought some of the crap that resulted in an exit scam. I did look into it beforehand in my case, but probably not well enough (may not even have been able to spot it). Most will not even look into things to begin with.

Most people participating in campaigns will not really care, and even the proportion of those that become aware that a given campaign is a fraud will probably be small, simply because they won’t look into it nor read the threads where it may be exposed. More often than not, people read the post above theirs at best, let alone trying to gain further context from reading here and there at depth. There are professional campaign spammers that go full thrust into any available campaign, and have developed a decent rank overtime. I wouldn’t expect those to read the Scam Accusations, nor even to see it if it were placed right in front of their eyes.

In any case, if there is a commercial/financial related risk, that’s what the Trust & Flag system is for.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1200
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You can give the Ann thread of the company negative trust, also report the project on social media to be a scam. If the campaign manager is paying people that participated in the campaign, the account should be given negative trust too. One of the members may raise a flag, people should support the negative flag. That alone are enough to make people know that they are scammers. But these are for signature campaigns which it is clear that the campaign manager should have certain amount of escrowed fund with him.

For bounties like that one CryptopreneurBrainboss managed, the campaign manager is not at fault, it is the people/company behind the project that are at fault, while I think negative flag has been raised against them. The only remedy to scam exit in bounty campaigns is to not participate in the bounty campaigns, or try to risk it.
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 555
This question has been bugging me lately and I need some answers.
Do we just jump on any and every campaign that comes up even if there is cause to suspect the company is a fraud? In this case the campaign 1xbit.com has been accused of scamming its users but still yet reputable members of this forum apply for the campaign. I'd understand if newbies, Jr members and even some members apply but seeing ranks as high as a Hero member applying on the campaign is mind-boggling. I believe the one of the factors that prove the credibility of a signature campaign is the rank of members they allow to apply, most campaigns are usually open to Full members to legendary rank only, while others are even more strict and require Hero members to legendary rank only. So what happens when high members help promote a scam campaign? Of course this is not the first time such has happened, CryptopreneurBrainboss, one of the best managers I have been blessed to work with, reported and exposed Burst.money as scam project despite whatever offers the company may have offered him. That shows character and dignity. 1xbit.com campaign has red flags all over it and yet the signs are ignored. This is the first time I'm seeing ranked members applying for a campaign managed by a newbie. It just isn't right. It just goes a long way to show the perception some of us have about the forum. Its all about the money
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