What do you guys think of this rig? - page 2.

DarkKnightNomeD

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Quote from: Bitsinmyhead on May 24, 2011, 03:34:12 AM

Every day I see these threads...
People with no clue want to build a rig...
Wasting huge amount of money...
Not realizing the game has changed...

The game is now cheapest rig will win...
Used to be just get it up and running...
Profit margins were so big...
Those times are gone forever...

If you invest $1000 in your rig...
In a year you might make $200 profit...
Cut your costs with $100...
Profit will be up by 50%...

These threads only proves one thing...
People are totally blinded...
By the tempting thought of printing money...
Because of this, in a couple weeks or so...
Difficulty will be a milli++...

Go find FOUR HD radeon 5850's maybe Gigabyte or Sapphire

and a MOTHERBOARD that will FIT THEM ALL - Dual Card Slot types

and find a COMPUTER CASE that has 9 to 10 expansion slots to fit said video cards

comeback and tell me the cost........

DarkKnightNomeD

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I am going off http://golubev.com/gpuest.htm

http://pastebin.com/AvymGnMJ

and a couple of posts in this forum

and a bit coin calculator on the net, that seems to be down right now i wont link it

i think the standard for bitcoin mining is having a decent job and maybe a partner or brother who has a part time job and can keep the machines running all the time

right now i am thinking of that 600 to 700 dollar computer /without the video cards

even if things dont work out i have a bad ass motherboard and 2 graphics card for a computer and 2 spares, or i can give the other 2 cards to my brother or build a decent, cheap, 2 card mining machine

Bitsinmyhead

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Every day I see these threads...
People with no clue want to build a rig...
Wasting huge amount of money...
Not realizing the game has changed...

The game is now cheapest rig will win...
Used to be just get it up and running...
Profit margins were so big...
Those times are gone forever...

If you invest $1000 in your rig...
In a year you might make $200 profit...
Cut your costs with $100...
Profit will be up by 50%...

These threads only proves one thing...
People are totally blinded...
By the tempting thought of printing money...
Because of this, in a couple weeks or so...
Difficulty will be a milli++...

Basiley

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Quote from: DarkKnightNomeD on May 24, 2011, 12:06:31 AM

Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:56:28 PM

so, safer to pay more, if unsure, yes.
its also [unreasoanble, alittle, meaning everyday hardware flow] investment -)
nothing to beat harddrives on storage market this time. and you can't rely on SSD on all aspects, except of read time[some time :], so tinies possible hdd could be simplest solution[to deploy/maintain/use]/storage pick.

sata HDD 80 gigs is $40.99 , so no biggie

for $50 you can get 1Tb hdd nowdays Wink

2Tb for $70-$80 -)

DarkKnightNomeD

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Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:56:28 PM

so, safer to pay more, if unsure, yes.
its also [unreasoanble, alittle, meaning everyday hardware flow] investment -)
nothing to beat harddrives on storage market this time. and you can't rely on SSD on all aspects, except of read time[some time :], so tinies possible hdd could be simplest solution[to deploy/maintain/use]/storage pick.

sata HDD 80 gigs is $40.99 , so no biggie

Basiley

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so, safer to pay more, if unsure, yes.
its also [unreasonable, alittle, meaning everyday hardware flow] investment -)
nothing to beat hard-drives on storage market this time. and you can't rely on SSD on all aspects, except of read time[some time :], so tinies possible hdd could be simplest solution[to deploy/maintain/use]/storage pick.

DarkKnightNomeD

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Quote from: xenon481 on May 23, 2011, 11:39:08 PM

Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:35:03 PM

if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO

but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

He was thinking about not even putting a hard drive in it, so that means that this rig isn't intended to be a general purpose machine.

i didn't even include some things

i can buy a 50 dollar HDrive....... or you going to freak out at me cuz its not cost effective? lol

anyway

im down to $359.88 bux without the video cards

DarkKnightNomeD

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Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:35:03 PM

if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO

but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

right now im tryin ti figure out a 3 video card rig

i am still going to try to figure out how to stick 4 ati radeon 5850's in 1 rig

1 stupid case that will hold it, and has 9 expansion slots, only need 8 for 4 video, but you have that extra in and of a half + motherboard that extends past the 8th exp slot

i dont know how to use linux or ubunto or any of that crap, i got a Wink

sp3 version of windows

and i dont want my power supply to melt, catch my room and house on fire

Basiley

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Quote from: xenon481 on May 23, 2011, 11:39:08 PM

Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:35:03 PM

if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO

but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

He was thinking about not even putting a hard drive in it, so that means that this rig isn't intended to be a general purpose machine.

so ?
i knew guy, running PC by LiveCD offfice-card-DVD Linux distro for months. for "general purpose" usage.
thats strongly depend meaning of "general" for each of us and VERY different, IMO.

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Quote from: Basiley on May 23, 2011, 11:35:03 PM

if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO

but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

He was thinking about not even putting a hard drive in it, so that means that this rig isn't intended to be a general purpose machine.

Basiley

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if he had extra-cash and prefer to invest it into better appearance/reliability/ease of use &etc instead of horsepower - is okay, IMO

but if his goal maximize RoI dynamic, you may be right.

DarkKnightNomeD

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so then http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157207

is just overkill again?

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Quote from: DarkKnightNomeD on May 23, 2011, 11:10:00 PM

ok i found ASROCK motherboard, dont know if there worth a dam, can hold 3 cards is 142 $

and there all pci express 2

umm should i be looking for pci express 2.0 slots or not?

maybe thats where im screwin up

All you need are PCI Express x1 slots of any PCI Express revision. (may need to do some extenders and/or modding of the connectors) Mining does not require that the video cards be in x16 slots.

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Quote from: xenon481 on May 23, 2011, 10:35:30 PM

Again, you are wasting a TON of money for absolutely zero reason.

- Do not use that Motherboard
- Do not use that Processor
- Do not use that Memory

You can cut at least $250 just by cutting out that unnecessary stuff.

And a $200 case is overkill waste of money as well.

Even if you can cut half of your "overhead hardware" cost out (~$350), you are still looking at ~$1100-$1200 for a rig. That is nearly $1.00 per MHash/s....... That is 33% over the expected break even hardware outlay.

ok i found ASROCK motherboard, dont know if there worth a dam, can hold 3 cards is 142 $

and there all pci express 2

umm should i be looking for pci express 2.0 slots or not?

maybe thats where im screwin up

AMD Sempron 140 Sargas 2.7GHz Socket AM3 45W Single-Core Processor SDX140HBGQBOX
is like $37.99

the memory i still can buy, i can save 1 stick for another computer, or put it in mine, and have 6 gigs

ill go down from 200 computer case to 69 so 280 saved already

and i need what a 700 watt Power Supply? thats like 70 bux compared to the 150 dollar 850 w

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Quote from: w128 on May 23, 2011, 10:46:05 PM

I fooled around on Newegg for a bit trying to put together a build that hits the $0.75:1 Mhash standard set forth above. Currently, it just isn't feasible. With a few excellent combos it would be possible but, they are few and far between for mining-appropriate hardware. The best I could come up with, without delving into bottom-of-the-barrel, no-name, potential fire hazard hardware territory was about $0.85/0.90:1 Mhash.

Here's a thought, if you're going to insist on using all that fancy hardware, upgrade the CPU and call it a 50% gaming machine.

Right now, the only way that buying hardware for mining beats the $0.75:1MHash/s mark is by only purchasing video cards and putting them into existing "overhead hardware" that you don't have to buy.

DarkKnightNomeD

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Quote from: w128 on May 23, 2011, 10:46:05 PM

I fooled around on Newegg for a bit trying to put together a build that hits the $0.75:1 Mhash standard set forth above. Currently, it just isn't feasible. With a few excellent combos it would be possible but, they are few and far between for mining-appropriate hardware. The best I could come up with, without delving into bottom-of-the-barrel, no-name, potential fire hazard hardware territory was about $0.85/0.90:1 Mhash.

Here's a thought, if you're going to insist on using all that fancy hardware, upgrade the CPU and call it a 50% gaming machine.

@w128 @xenon481 im just doing guess work right now

@xenon481 so going all out to save space at the house wont work maybe ill just have to deal with having twice the computer rigs maybe just stick to 3 pci slot motherboards hell maybe 2

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Quote from: w128 on May 23, 2011, 10:46:05 PM

I fooled around on Newegg for a bit trying to put together a build that hits the $0.75:1 Mhash standard set forth above. Currently, it just isn't feasible. With a few excellent combos it would be possible but, they are few and far between for mining-appropriate hardware. The best I could come up with, without delving into bottom-of-the-barrel, no-name, potential fire hazard hardware territory was about $0.85/0.90:1 Mhash.

Here's a thought, if you're going to insist on using all that fancy hardware, upgrade the CPU and call it a 50% gaming machine.

The $0.75 per MHash/s number makes some assumptions about increases in difficulty and increases in exchange rate, but if you expect either of those assumptions are wrong, then that means that you believe that it is currently more profitable to buy the BTC.

w128

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I fooled around on Newegg for a bit trying to put together a build that hits the $0.75:1 Mhash standard set forth above. Currently, it just isn't feasible. With a few excellent combos it would be possible but, they are few and far between for mining-appropriate hardware. The best I could come up with, without delving into bottom-of-the-barrel, no-name, potential fire hazard hardware territory was about $0.85/0.90:1 Mhash.

Here's a thought, if you're going to insist on using all that fancy hardware, upgrade the CPU and call it a 50% gaming machine.

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Historically, buying bitcoins directly has been more profitable than mining.

xenon481

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Again, you are wasting a TON of money for absolutely zero reason.

- Do not use that Motherboard
- Do not use that Processor
- Do not use that Memory

You can cut at least $250 just by cutting out that unnecessary stuff.

And a $200 case is overkill waste of money as well.

Even if you can cut half of your "overhead hardware" cost out (~$350), you are still looking at ~$1100-$1200 for a rig. That is nearly $1.00 per MHash/s....... That is 33% over the expected break even hardware outlay.

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