What do you look out for first when choosing alts. Utility or hype?

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Quote from: arhipova on July 10, 2024, 08:19:10 AM

I will never choose based on hype. Whenever , I have done that in past, I have had to incur huge losses. This is because I play with large capital also.

Now I only invest for long term and thus the investment is based on general perception about the altcoin for long term. If there is series of good announcements coming for a certain coin, then I might give it a chance. But just based on one event or news, I rarely invest in any altcoin.

Which is as it should be, but the majority of the people out there do not care about investing for the long term and they see little reason to choose utility, as what they want is to obtain fast profits and hype is way more important to them, however even by selecting altcoins in this way, there is no way they can be sure they have taken the right choice, as a great deal of the support an altcoin may have could be simulated by bots and bought followers, and this could lead those people to invest in the wrong coin.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

So, what factors do you consider most important? Let’s discuss!

Obviously you would want to consider both since we want to make profit but at the same time we need to ensure that it will be maintained and not much of a risky choice

but at the end of the day profit is still what we are aiming for so it makes sense if you just look for hype for now

Maybe I rely more on hype, simple research such as who the investors are, how big the community is, then after that just take short-term profits. Existing and new altcoins only show fleeting sensations, unlike ETH, BNB and Solana, of which these three are exceptions for me to use as long-term options, because they have been proven over time to have large levels of profit due to encouragement from community adopters.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 03, 2024, 11:08:17 AM

If we're going to talk about short-mid term hyped memecoin trades, then sure. Because why would you even care about the utility, team, and tokenomics if we're just talking about memecoins lol. But OP was asking about "picking altcoins to hold for the long term"; so I'm not sure why you would hold nonsense memecoins for long periods of time.

right. i didn't notice that part

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Quote from: dunfida on July 10, 2024, 09:30:11 AM

When it comes to meme coins then everything would really be depending on hype on which this is the main reason on why it is really that going to moon and even to those solid projects on which we know on how relevant to a certain project.Although we do know on where investors could possibly deal on with on which it would neither be on those utility projects or memes on which as long they would really be able to make money then this is somewhere they would really be choosing or sticking on where they could make money.

Going back on topic about alts choosing then I would go for solid utility at the same time on which having that at least some good community and backed up with some solid partners and investors on which you could be having at least that kind of assurance
That you are on a good project but of course when it comes to sureness then it can't be 100%.

To be fair, at least for me, if we are talking about a meme coin then I would not invest, even if it's hyped. I do care about utility, I do care about hype a bit more, but I care about how serious a project is and not some joking matter. We are talking about so many stuff that looks like it's just a pure joke and I rather not have that at all. We need to consider the fact that we are talking about a better reason to keep going.

This is why I believe that the best thing to do would be making a good return with it. This is going to matter, and this is going to do great, we just need to keep going with alts that have a meaning. Look at ethereum for example, it's a serious coin with a lot of great features, it doesn't need hype from anyone.

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Quote from: agan husaeni on July 10, 2024, 04:34:10 AM

Depends on the coin. If it's a meme coin, what I need is hype, because the more famous the coin is, the more people will buy it, but remember that every meme coin has fluctuations beyond limits. If a meme coin is already too hyped and has been in the market for too long, it's better to sell it soon, because it will soon turn to ashes. And of course, for me, I will choose a coin with clear utility for long-term investment, except XRP Grin

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When it comes to meme coins then everything would really be depending on hype on which this is the main reason on why it is really that going to moon and even to those solid projects on which we know on how relevant to a certain project.Although we do know on where investors could possibly deal on with on which it would neither be on those utility projects or memes on which as long they would really be able to make money then this is somewhere they would really be choosing or sticking on where they could make money.

Going back on topic about alts choosing then I would go for solid utility at the same time on which having that at least some good community and backed up with some solid partners and investors on which you could be having at least that kind of assurance
That you are on a good project but of course when it comes to sureness then it can't be 100%.

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Quote from: redsun114 on July 09, 2024, 08:29:53 AM

It often happens that an item that is not selling in the market is advertised or its price is reduced so that people will buy it because the seller knows that his goods are not sold. So he gives all kinds of freebies on top of that, I think it's the same with the hyped coins. I am saying this because I have bought some hyped coins but I did not get enough profit from them even though they are very famous in the market at the moment.

Now, since they are not promising coins, it cannot be said that if the market goes up, they will go up, it can only be a hope for the best, so I don't prefer such coins or tokens that much, I think. Bitcoin and other old cryptocurrencies are better. Some altcoins have always benefited their users and no matter how much the market goes down they have gone into profit later, so a little wait and a little less profit is better than a big loss.

I agree, a good project doesn't need to cheapen their product, they make it and they let the market buy it and don't care what people think, because they know that their product is already good. A bad one knows that they are lacking a lot, sure they promise a ton of things for the future but currently they lack a lot, and because of that they promise the worlds, like tens of thousands of dollars potential.

Because, they know their product sucks now, and if they do not offer anything big, nobody would decide on anything else. We should probably consider how to make it work, and because of that we should probably consider how to make changes. We should consider utility as the most important so that we can invest into something that is decent in the end.

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I will never choose based on hype. Whenever , I have done that in past, I have had to incur huge losses. This is because I play with large capital also.

Now I only invest for long term and thus the investment is based on general perception about the altcoin for long term. If there is series of good announcements coming for a certain coin, then I might give it a chance. But just based on one event or news, I rarely invest in any altcoin.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

When picking altcoins to hold for the long term, what do you look out for the most: utilities, team, hype, or tokenomics?
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If you want easy money, high risk, high reward = go for hype. This is very common right now or specially during the bull market, a lot of hoping to make easy money on random altcoins, that's why you can see a lot hypes and random pumps on altcoins, after that it will dump and some are already late and they became exit liquidity for others.

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Depends on the coin. If it's a meme coin, what I need is hype, because the more famous the coin is, the more people will buy it, but remember that every meme coin has fluctuations beyond limits. If a meme coin is already too hyped and has been in the market for too long, it's better to sell it soon, because it will soon turn to ashes. And of course, for me, I will choose a coin with clear utility for long-term investment, except XRP Grin

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Quote from: OrangeII on July 05, 2024, 09:25:25 AM

it is best to choose both. I think, even if a coin has good benefits, but there is no hype and there is not much interest in it, then it just takes time to fall. Meanwhile, coins that only take advantage of the hype are like meme coins, and it is likely that these coins will fall quickly. So, it would be great if we choose both. I don't think we can choose one or the other if both are truly important. However, until now quite a lot of people are taking advantage of the profits from hype coins even though it is risky.

It often happens that an item that is not selling in the market is advertised or its price is reduced so that people will buy it because the seller knows that his goods are not sold. So he gives all kinds of freebies on top of that, I think it's the same with the hyped coins. I am saying this because I have bought some hyped coins but I did not get enough profit from them even though they are very famous in the market at the moment.

Now, since they are not promising coins, it cannot be said that if the market goes up, they will go up, it can only be a hope for the best, so I don't prefer such coins or tokens that much, I think. Bitcoin and other old cryptocurrencies are better. Some altcoins have always benefited their users and no matter how much the market goes down they have gone into profit later, so a little wait and a little less profit is better than a big loss.

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Quote from: OrangeII on July 05, 2024, 09:25:25 AM

it is best to choose both. I think, even if a coin has good benefits, but there is no hype and there is not much interest in it, then it just takes time to fall. Meanwhile, coins that only take advantage of the hype are like meme coins, and it is likely that these coins will fall quickly. So, it would be great if we choose both. I don't think we can choose one or the other if both are truly important. However, until now quite a lot of people are taking advantage of the profits from hype coins even though it is risky.

If it has a utility then why it can't get much interest? Actually, that alone is enough to make the project popular and that creates a hype. Those projects who only have a hype might fail quickly but who says we will HODL them for the long term?

So, it is still possible to benefit at them. It was only a bit tricky since we have less indications like checking their utility, to see if who among them is not an instant scam. With what I've said, it is really possible that we can only choose one between them but if we came across a project that has both, then that is much better and we must prioritize it, if investing for both are not possible due to limited capital.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

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I'd say utility but for the most part, every alt out there is just some sort of copy of Bitcoin or other existing alts but I guess if it was for the long term then utility would 100% be better compared to something like hype lol. At the very least it introduces the idea that the coin would have future progress or development which could lead to potential positive market movements of the coin.

And I'd say memecoins are a better topic on online forums. Why? Bots lol. Plus, short term topics are more likely to be more apparent in forums since they would naturally pop up every now and then, compared to a project with "potential".

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For long term then of course it should be utility. Not a fan of hyped tokens but I cannot say that those coins aren't profitable. You could really ride the hype and make profit from it and this is evident with meme coins this year. There are many memecoins being introduced in the market right now and if you will manage to make an entry early, then profit is quite assured however you just need to be cautious of sudden price dump from big investors who will just take profit after their gains. If you will miss taking yours then be prepared to be their liquidity. Also with rugged projects, a must to avoid. All of these reasons made me stick to utility project tokens. At least in the long run I would have greater chances of making profit by just holding and picking the right project. Hype is temporary, so better keep it in mind.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

When picking altcoins to hold for the long term, what do you look out for the most: utilities, team, hype, or tokenomics?

I've been speaking to friends in the crypto space to hear their opinions on this, and they vary widely. For example, take Well3, a leading wellness platform that revolutionizes health data management by transforming it into valuable rewards. They have real-life applications and partnerships with companies like Animoca and Samsung. However, I’m not seeing much about them on Reddit, Medium, or even Twitter. Instead, most of the discussion online seems to focus on memecoins or obscure altcoins.

So, what factors do you consider most important? Let’s discuss!

To be honest with you, investment in altcoins is like a tiky time bomb that is always waiting for your money before they explode. Take a tour around coingecko and see for yourself the coins thag were launch this year and the ones launch in the last Q4 last year, they are down to something I don't even understand because they were built on hype and it has faded and the surprising thing is that majority of investors don't really care about what the project can offer them but the profits.

All things you mentioned is very important in a coin but hype is needed in minimal form so that people who loves opium don't have to run away because that's what they do these days. Once they are done with their profits, they sell and move to the hype projects, no body really cares what the team is building or what is the value the project will add to their coin. They are.just after 3x from one projects to another.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

When picking altcoins to hold for the long term, what do you look out for the most: utilities, team, hype, or tokenomics?

So, what factors do you consider most important? Let’s discuss!

Honestly, it depends on my budget because if you look for the current coins that have more hype than the others, you are required to know when to sell it because, after the hype, the price might not return to its peak again, therefore selling it at the right time is the best thing to do.

But if I want a long-term investment, especially for the coins that have been there for years, all I want is team dedication and their Tokenomics to secure my capital in the long run because I can't see myself investing in random coins without these main factors, I might just lose my money if they had failed to improve it and don't pay attention with it.

Overall, they need to have healthy liquidation and consistent updates and developments to make me invest in their platforms, that's why my wallet only consists of a shortlist of cryptocurrencies.

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it is best to choose both. I think, even if a coin has good benefits, but there is no hype and there is not much interest in it, then it just takes time to fall. Meanwhile, coins that only take advantage of the hype are like meme coins, and it is likely that these coins will fall quickly. So, it would be great if we choose both. I don't think we can choose one or the other if both are truly important. However, until now quite a lot of people are taking advantage of the profits from hype coins even though it is risky.

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Quote from: uneng on July 04, 2024, 03:20:19 PM

I look for utility, benefits it proportionates to adopters, holders and investors. It usually comes as benefits inside an already existing platform or service. So you acquire the altcoin to guarantee extra advantages inside a service platform. If the offer is interesting and rewarding, I decide to invest on the altcoin. It's not easy, though, because most offers don't worth. Some look really good at the beginning, but on the practice it's completely different than you firstly expected.

Altcoins are always a risky deal, so if you want to avoid all the troubles, frustration and regrets of adopting them, I would advise you to just invest in Bitcoin currency that you won't have any headaches later. It's exactly what it promises to be, without any hidden nasty surprises in the end.

sometime what makes thing difficult in choosing alts with utility is that some of the utilities are truly garbage not even worth mentioning.
like most of the L2 coins right now which if you see in the chart it's quite dying, why? because their governance token worth to none, just overly inflated token valuation by the VCs without real utility at all.
these governance token only being used for proposal and that's it and mind you most proposel get voted by the project team because they usually own large sums, though there are some case where community wins indeed but I just see that kind of utility as gimmick at best.

I mean i know market is bad right now but these L2 literally already dumping from before BTC crash and now just got even worse.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on July 03, 2024, 12:52:11 AM

Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

So, what factors do you consider most important? Let’s discuss!

Obviously you would want to consider both since we want to make profit but at the same time we need to ensure that it will be maintained and not much of a risky choice

but at the end of the day profit is still what we are aiming for so it makes sense if you just look for hype for now

Hype can be used when buying certain altcoins, usually only in the short term, if you buy them successfully and at the right time, and also sell them when they reach their price peak. Usually only a few of them last long in terms of price.
If you count on long-term retention, then it is better to choose their usefulness, as well as liquidity, that is, those that are in the top ten in the CoinMarketCap table. This can save us from many unpleasant moments.

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Quote from: Iamcrypticguy on July 02, 2024, 02:35:15 PM

When picking altcoins to hold for the long term, what do you look out for the most: utilities, team, hype, or tokenomics?

I've been speaking to friends in the crypto space to hear their opinions on this, and they vary widely. For example, take Well3, a leading wellness platform that revolutionizes health data management by transforming it into valuable rewards. They have real-life applications and partnerships with companies like Animoca and Samsung. However, I’m not seeing much about them on Reddit, Medium, or even Twitter. Instead, most of the discussion online seems to focus on memecoins or obscure altcoins.

So, what factors do you consider most important? Let’s discuss!

I couldn't care less about the hype. I know that can be a solid tactic but i wasn't build that way. I haven't seen any real world use cases that would really benefit from blockchain. And they have often either such a cheap fees, and bad tokenomics that any amount of corporate tx activity wouldn't need to even invest into the coins because it would be cheap to use, so there wouldn't be any need to hoard or hold any tokens when you can do fine for ages with the fraction of one full coin. Or other way around and blockchain might be too expensive to use. That would be counter effective to anything anyone would be planning to use it for.

Reddit might have only use case that makes any sense. And that is native nft avatars that you can use to build avatars there. I am still not sure if that's a good idea, but it has brought money to artists that designed them, and knowledge about nfts.

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Some years ago, when I was investing in a lot of new altcoins, I usually considered all of the factors that you mentioned before. I could buy the token or coin, but even after considering those factors and still making an investment, the project would still fail. The truth is that a project could have a good team, it could be a transparent project with good intentions for their investors, and their native token could also have a good utility purpose, but some misfortunes could happen with the project, and when the team cannot hold up to the challenge for a long time, they could either abandon the project or sell it to the wrong team management.

This time around, if I want to invest in new altcoins, I will check if the project has a good team, I'll check the market size of the token, I'll look at the token's utility, and lastly, I will never hold the token for a long time. As soon as I make a good profit, if the price becomes volatile, I will sell and take my profit. The reason is because I cannot hold some of those new altcoins for a long time.

The only altcoins I can accumulate and hold for a long time are these old, existing altcoins that have proven themselves to be of good worth since their launch. Examples are ETH, BNB, SOL, Matic, etc.

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