What do you think about 9/11 mystery? - page 40.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 07:16:57 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 15, 2016, 05:21:12 PM

Building 7 was burning uncontrolled for hours, during that time showed evidence of structural failure, and then collapsed.

I don't understand what is complicated about this, or what even lends itself to a plausible need for a conspiracy.

Uncontrolled fire. It burned, then it fell. Period.

So what?

" If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise."
http://rememberbuilding7.org/7-facts-about-building-7/

I don't know why people don't accepting facts, what happened and what is behind all of this and if we don't talk about insurance we can't get big picture.

It is a fact that it was more or less the first fire induced collapse of a steel frame high rise. So what? It was designed with the assumption that the sprinkler system and the water would be working to prevent fires and their effects.

Take those away, and you have the situation which existed. There is no need to invoke conspiracies.

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Quote from: mainpmf on March 16, 2016, 07:00:33 AM

Quote from: magnific61 on March 16, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Odg8nDgMQQ

Scientist Proves Thermite Was Used in 9/11 WTC Controlled Demolition

Hmm... Ok that one is a bit bizarre. Not sure I'm ready to believe something like this xD

First, he does not "prove" anything. Second, no thermite was found and none was used. Thermite produces a brilliant white flash.

Has anyone seen that in the videos of the towers?

I await an answer.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 06:42:53 AM

Building hit by a bomb during NATO bombing Serbia.

Building with steel frames cannot fall after fire. This amount of heat necessary for melting frames cannot be achieved with fuel, oil, plastic,wood. Only with specific explosives with high temperature..

Nonsense on all counts.

To cause a steel frame building to fall, it is only necessary to heat the steel, then it has no strength. Welders, blacksmiths do this routinely.

Explosives do not "melt" anything. They have a shattering effect, producing shrapnel. This is because the shock of the explosive exceeds the speed of sound in the material.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqqelDq4P48
"Expert witnesses gathered at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada to provide evidence-based research that called into question the official story of 9/11. This was known as The Toronto Hearings on 9/11.
This film is a summary of the strongest evidence given over the four days of hearings."

You can find many evidences and logical explanations on Youtube.
Thanks god we have internet and we can investigate and share our conclusions.

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Quote from: craked5 on March 16, 2016, 08:55:28 AM

Especially when you know Iraq had nothing to do with this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks#Iraq

No proof at all. But it didn't help the Americans to think...

I don't know why American people allowed this private war?
Why they don't think about bad karma? Or if they don't believe in this, they should organized protest same as OCCUPY against further interventions..
This would be most humane from American people.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 08:50:27 AM

And after all we must know why did they went to Iraq. Because of oil! not because Weapons of mass..Afghanistan flourishing in drug production today. ISIS and other Islamist organizations has not been active before interventions..
9/11 was used as excuse and all this was planned from the beginning.

Especially when you know Iraq had nothing to do with this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks#Iraq

No proof at all. But it didn't help the Americans to think...

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And after all we must know why did they went to Iraq. Because of oil! not because Weapons of mass..Afghanistan flourishing in drug production today. ISIS and other Islamist organizations has not been active before interventions..
9/11 was used as excuse and all this was planned from the beginning.

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 07:47:05 AM

People are also guilty because they neglecting evidence and looking for answers on the other side of the world. Future with this kind of terror is like in Orwell's book 1984 if government doesn't have real enemies, they will invent them!

That's for sure. You had to be a complete idiot to support Iraq war! Especially when you know that they never did anything like that...

I'm really glad France refused to participate to this shit!

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People are also guilty because they neglecting evidence and looking for answers on the other side of the world. Future with this kind of terror is like in Orwell's book 1984 if government doesn't have real enemies, they will invent them!

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Quote from: jassii on March 16, 2016, 12:27:42 AM

Quote from: magnific61 on March 03, 2016, 08:11:36 AM

More than 15 years passed after 9/11 disaster.
After 9/11 Coalition Forces occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 1,5 million people died. Iraq regime collapsed with Saddam's dicta.
Coalition Forces encashed even every single bullet's price from Iraqi Puppet Government.
If we think today, who get benefit from 9/11 and who lost, i leave it to your imagination and mind.
It was a terrorist attack?
There are many suspicious points
What about flight number 11, 175 and number 73 passengers hit Pentagon?
There are so many questions
Are you satisfied for explanations?
Actually what, happened there?

in this case no any mystery. its a attack by the terrorists.

Possible! If we regard that US is the biggest supprter of terrorism, it was a terrorist attack organised as inside job

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 15, 2016, 05:21:12 PM

Building 7 was burning uncontrolled for hours, during that time showed evidence of structural failure, and then collapsed.

I don't understand what is complicated about this, or what even lends itself to a plausible need for a conspiracy.

Uncontrolled fire. It burned, then it fell. Period.

So what?

" If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise."
http://rememberbuilding7.org/7-facts-about-building-7/

I don't know why people don't accepting facts, what happened and what is behind all of this and if we don't talk about insurance we can't get big picture.

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Quote from: mainpmf on March 16, 2016, 07:00:33 AM

Quote from: magnific61 on March 16, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Odg8nDgMQQ

Scientist Proves Thermite Was Used in 9/11 WTC Controlled Demolition

Hmm... Ok that one is a bit bizarre. Not sure I'm ready to believe something like this xD

İmagine that even beams would been molten, building should not free fell like a controlled demolition.
I heard some of fire-fighters' statements that they heard a serial explosion while building collapses. Consecutive explosions like bam bam bam!
Why it is like a controlled demolition?

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Quote from: magnific61 on March 16, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Odg8nDgMQQ

Scientist Proves Thermite Was Used in 9/11 WTC Controlled Demolition

Hmm... Ok that one is a bit bizarre. Not sure I'm ready to believe something like this xD

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Odg8nDgMQQ

Scientist Proves Thermite Was Used in 9/11 WTC Controlled Demolition

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Quote from: arbitrage on March 16, 2016, 06:42:53 AM

Building hit by a bomb during NATO bombing Serbia.

Building with steel frames cannot fall after fire. This amount of heat necessary for melting frames cannot be achieved with fuel, oil, plastic,wood. Only with specific explosives with high temperature..

Proof that 9/11 is an inside job if it was needed.

We all know who did this and why...

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Building hit by a bomb during NATO bombing Serbia.

Building with steel frames cannot fall after fire. This amount of heat necessary for melting frames cannot be achieved with fuel, oil, plastic,wood. Only with specific explosives with high temperature..

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 15, 2016, 05:43:09 PM

Funny interview with a Dutch domination expert who, like most, was unaware of the existance of WTC 7,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6D4dla17aA

Sadly (for some), he is longer among the living. One of those single vehicle crash things.

That's what I don't understand. Why didn't I ever heard of the WTC 7 before?

It' reminds me of the worst shit governments try to make you swallow...

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Quote from: magnific61 on March 03, 2016, 08:11:36 AM

More than 15 years passed after 9/11 disaster.
After 9/11 Coalition Forces occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 1,5 million people died. Iraq regime collapsed with Saddam's dicta.
Coalition Forces encashed even every single bullet's price from Iraqi Puppet Government.
If we think today, who get benefit from 9/11 and who lost, i leave it to your imagination and mind.
It was a terrorist attack?
There are many suspicious points
What about flight number 11, 175 and number 73 passengers hit Pentagon?
There are so many questions
Are you satisfied for explanations?
Actually what, happened there?

in this case no any mystery. its a attack by the terrorists.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 15, 2016, 05:30:15 PM

Quote from: yugo23 on March 15, 2016, 05:33:42 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 14, 2016, 02:07:48 PM

Gravity points down. That's where things fall. Down. And saying "the fires didn't weaken" does not make it true. It doesn't even make an argument. It's more like random words.

Finally, there are huge differences between 7 and the towers. For example, the primary support for the towers were the beams around the outside. The primary support for the bldg 7 was far to the interior. Again, just saying something isn't even an argument.

Does that make sense?

Hey, I didn't know about building 7 but the picture above are rather... Evidences.

Seems like some buildings went down without anything hitting them no?

According to conspiracy theorists, "Something hitting them" DOESN'T bring them down. It takes additional hundreds of ninja type guys secreting explosives in the dead of night.

Why that kind of thinking would be required when simple fires would do it, I don't know.

Because all burning buildings that burn for merely hours collapse in a free fall manor, correct?

Not to mention buildings that burned for DAYS, and still never collapsed...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4263667.stm

I'm glad someone else does your thinking for you... Makes it easy right? lmfao...

Quote from: Spendulus on March 15, 2016, 05:42:45 PM

Nonsense. The Pentagon is not your average building.

Ah yes, the old vaporize an entire plane on impact, but keep the dna samples intact kind of building? lol

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 15, 2016, 05:43:09 PM

Funny interview with a Dutch domination expert who, like most, was unaware of the existance of WTC 7,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6D4dla17aA

Sadly (for some), he is longer among the living. One of those single vehicle crash things.

But you see, he has no evidence whatsoever that Bldg 7 was a controlled demolition. None. He only says that because it implodes inward.

The outward appearance and phenomena of the building are identical if a key structural member is

1.blown up,
2.melted by thermite,
3. softened by several hours of fire.

You can't choose one of these just because it fits with the conspiracy theory you already hold. That makes no sense.

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