what do you think about ROhingya ??? - page 2.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on June 04, 2015, 04:24:29 PM

because these subhumans are really going to make a go of things living on an uninhabited island? its unlikely they could invent the wheel on their own. i'd be all for dumping them on an island if we could just leave them alone and let them die but we all know they wouldn't stay on their island for long

and these "countries" of which you speak are made up of people, people who arent stupid and don't want rohingya savages polluting their lands, let them live in your house since you love them so much

Thats again an assumption . Its true that it would be hard to earn while on the island, but would be enough to atleast have a living for themselves. They can always start manufacturing operations among other things which require manual labour. The only thing I blame them for is to continue giving birth to more babies than they can afford to take care of .

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 05, 2015, 04:38:34 AM

Bangladesh is well beyond point of overpopulation, its third world status only worsened by the fact, that vast majority of its people are ardent believers in dogmatic religion. Country the size of Iowa already supports 170 million of these people.

Bangladesh can't produce millions of additional people every year and say that it is the responsibility of India and Myanmar to take care of them. Already some 30 million illegal Bangladeshi immigrants reside in India. In states such as Assam, they make up for as much as one-third of the total popualtion. Bangladesh should take the responsibility of resettling the Rohingya... and the same for illegal Bangla immigrants in nations such as India, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia.etc.

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Bryant,
I was responding mostly to Falconer, who claims this is all about "humanity" and US should intervene. Of course, I find it idiotic. Bangladesh is well beyond point of overpopulation, its third world status only worsened by the fact, that vast majority of its people are ardent believers in dogmatic religion. Country the size of Iowa already supports 170 million of these people. It is more, than understandable, that its neighbours arent thrilled about taking care of this mass of people (represented by Rohingya most recently).

Saudis and other state sponsors of terorrism dont generally accept foreign refugees, frankly this is useless concept. EVEN, if they were willing to move and assimilate, there would be simply born new ones and cycle would continue. Their problem cannot be solved on someone elses account.

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Quote from: Okurkabinladin on June 04, 2015, 07:22:04 PM

Perhaps United States should then take them all in? I sparsely see undeserved violence, so I reserve judgment until both sides have spoken. Fact is, that those bangladeshi migrants are muslim, while the country in question is (despite repeated invasions) still budhist.

Why should the United States take them? United States is thousands of km away from the Rakhine region. It will be better if Bangladesh takes them back. After all, they are ethnic Bengali. However, they have rejected repeated requests from the international community to accept these people. The next option is Muslim nations such as Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia. They have accepted a few of the Rohingya, but all of them are saying that they can't take in anymore.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 04:44:56 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 03, 2015, 09:02:27 PM

Both the sides are guilty here.

Did you state the Rohingya refugee are guilty? I think United Nations must take action to response this problem. It's not about political, but humanity. I will appreciate if US will help them although world people hate US.

Perhaps United States should then take them all in? I sparsely see undeserved violence, so I reserve judgment until both sides have spoken. Fact is, that those bangladeshi migrants are muslim, while the country in question is (despite repeated invasions) still budhist.

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Quote from: erpbridge on June 04, 2015, 04:04:26 PM

Maybe you would have been fit to born in them.

everyone's born where he's supposed to be born, i am british and greek of pure aryan stock by the grace of god, if i were fit to have been born among these diseased souls i would have been

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its not their fault they were born into poverty and have to do things being helpless. Not all of them are criminals as you generalize. I feel the perfect solution would be for countries to come together and solve it together. There should be enough unclaimed islands off the South east countries where they can be inhabited and not be left stateless. Or the countries could start giving them residency in their own countries.

because these subhumans are really going to make a go of things living on an uninhabited island? its unlikely they could invent the wheel on their own. i'd be all for dumping them on an island if we could just leave them alone and let them die but we all know they wouldn't stay on their island for long

and these "countries" of which you speak are made up of people, people who arent stupid and don't want rohingya savages polluting their lands, let them live in your house since you love them so much

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Quote from: saddampbuh on June 04, 2015, 06:16:24 AM

subhumans unworthy of life. exterminate them.

rohingya are illegal immigrants, violent, lazy, rapists and killers. they do not work but only produce more of themselves at such an alarming rate as to threaten their buddhist neighbours. its not an islamic thing if anyone's wondering as there are peaceful burmese muslims who don't cause any problems. rohingya are a different kettle of fish and belong in the same category as roma gypsies.

Maybe you would have been fit to born in them. its not their fault they were born into poverty and have to do things being helpless. Not all of them are criminals as you generalize. I feel the perfect solution would be for countries to come together and solve it together. There should be enough unclaimed islands off the South east countries where they can be inhabited and not be left stateless. Or the countries could start giving them residency in their own countries.

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Quote from: BRE on June 04, 2015, 10:49:02 AM

They are the subject of gross discrimination in Myanmar, where they were long segregated from the main population, where they were the object of severe restrictions by successive governments (restrictions which were not applied to other residents of Myanmar), and where they were forced to live in appalling conditions.

It is not that simple. There are many reasons, to why the Rohingya are being badly treated by the Myanmar government. Some of them are:

1. Most of the Rohingya are recent immigrants from Bangladesh.
2. Crime rate is very high among the Rohingya.
3. Rohingya migrants have encroached upon the government land in the Rakhine state.
4. As a retaliation for the Bengali attacks against ethnic Rakhinese (Mogh) in Bangladesh, the Myanmarese officials harass the Rohingyas.
5. The population growth rate for Rohingya is very high, and the ethnic Rakhinese are afraid that they'll soon become a minority.

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The Rohingya are in reality a stateless people, they are not allowed to be citizens (as "Rohingya") in Myanmar, where most of them currently live, or in Bangladesh, where their ancestors came from.
They are the subject of gross discrimination in Myanmar, where they were long segregated from the main population, where they were the object of severe restrictions by successive governments (restrictions which were not applied to other residents of Myanmar), and where they were forced to live in appalling conditions.

In recent years, Australian governments have also funded capacity building programs to counter people trafficking in several South-East Asian countries, including Myanmar.
But these programs may not have been designed for the current Rohingya situation.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 07:15:21 AM

Do you blame all of Rohingyan just because some of them did crimes? What do you think if one of your family did crime and you got blamed because of him? Rohingyans are not only men, there are also women and kids.

No. I am not blaming all Rohingya. That is why I used the term "some of them". There is a reason why the Buddhists are not attacking the native Muslims, or other minorities such as Hindus. They are law abiding peaceful citizens. The problem is that the Bangladeshi immigrants want to bring their own rules and customs to the area to which they immigrated.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 04, 2015, 05:30:19 AM

Quote from: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 04:44:56 AM

Did you state the Rohingya refugee are guilty? I think United Nations must take action to response this problem. It's not about political, but humanity. I will appreciate if US will help them although world people hate US.

Many of the Rohingya were involved in crimes such as rape and murder against the native population in Rakhine. Remember that it was the rape of some local women in 2012, which sparked the anti-Rohingya riots. Also, Rakhine state is home to tens of thousands of Buddhist refugees from Bangladesh, who were forced to flee after a brutal campaign of terror by the Bengali settlers.

Do you blame all of Rohingyan just because some of them did crimes? What do you think if one of your family did crime and you got blamed because of him? Rohingyans are not only men, there are also women and kids.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on June 04, 2015, 06:16:24 AM

Its not an islamic thing if anyone's wondering as there are peaceful burmese muslims who don't cause any problems. rohingya are a different kettle of fish and belong in the same category as roma gypsies.

Hmm.. that is important. The Rohingya are not the native Muslims of Myanmar. They are immigrants. The Rohingya speak the Bengali language, while the native Muslims speak either Burmese or other native languages such as Mon or Karen. That said, around 80% of the total Muslim population in Myanmar is composed of Rohingyas. The native Muslims have been reduced to 20%.

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subhumans unworthy of life. exterminate them.

rohingya are illegal immigrants, violent, lazy, rapists and killers. they do not work but only produce more of themselves at such an alarming rate as to threaten their buddhist neighbours. its not an islamic thing if anyone's wondering as there are peaceful burmese muslims who don't cause any problems. rohingya are a different kettle of fish and belong in the same category as roma gypsies.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 04, 2015, 04:44:56 AM

Did you state the Rohingya refugee are guilty? I think United Nations must take action to response this problem. It's not about political, but humanity. I will appreciate if US will help them although world people hate US.

Many of the Rohingya were involved in crimes such as rape and murder against the native population in Rakhine. Remember that it was the rape of some local women in 2012, which sparked the anti-Rohingya riots. Also, Rakhine state is home to tens of thousands of Buddhist refugees from Bangladesh, who were forced to flee after a brutal campaign of terror by the Bengali settlers.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 03, 2015, 09:02:27 PM

Both the sides are guilty here.

Did you state the Rohingya refugee are guilty? I think United Nations must take action to response this problem. It's not about political, but humanity. I will appreciate if US will help them although world people hate US.

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Both the sides are guilty here. Almost all of the Rohingya are migrants from Bangladesh, and the native population in the Rakhine region is opposed to their presence there. Another fact that should be remembered is that ethnic Rakhinese (some 300,000 in total) are suffering genocide in Bangladesh (and no human right organization is taking up their cause). Attacks against Rohingya in Myanmar are mostly retaliation against the treatment of ethnic Rakhinese (known as Mogh) in Bangladesh. Treat the Mogh better, and attacks against the Rohingya will stop.

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