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September 14, 2015, 06:42:52 AM
#34

Lovely thread. Nice and friendly  Smiley


you're right. A friendly match would be much more enjoyable. Editing post.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 06:37:28 AM
#33

Lovely thread. Nice and friendly  Smiley
sr. member
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September 14, 2015, 06:31:49 AM
#32
edit: I wasn't being a gentleman, deleted
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 06:29:41 AM
#31
Woah, surely you care since you reply to every DASH thread or anything related to Evan. Jealous of he's success and media coverage he gets while all you're SPAM here isn't working. Nor you or the other 29 Monero developers  can compete with he's coding skills but I have to give it to you when it comes to misquoting and copy pasting skills.

I want an exist? why would I say I have 14.5k Dash that is not mine in BTCtalk! I believe in Dash since it offers new things and Dash team keeps updating new things ALWAYS, many tests happening  and even innovation ways for crypto. Yet I want an exist?? keep at it since all you do is cry|p|to about it here into forums this is why I don't buy Monero because you are a very jealous person just like many of Monero trolls here who are no good but selling hot air.

I only mentioned the Finnish flag because you're biggest Monero holders are from Finland Rpietila & Cryptomillionaire. So in Monero side they claim the bad launch happened and new ppl came and took control but that is a lie it is the same ppl.

don't be angry with the 2 dozen Monero trolls here hopping up and down with rage at Dash's latest ground-breaking feature - pure decentralized governance and funding, meaning Dash is now the first digital autonomous corporation Cheesy.  

...because in true Monero style, they recently tried to do copy Dash and to the same thing,  but the furthest they got was adding a board on a forum Wink  https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required



Until  Monero jams a bunch of algos together (maybe they'll do 12 and call it Super X-12!), throws in a novelty toy and calls it a privacy solution, calls low confirmations insta-x-marks-the-spot-you-should-have-used-more-confirmations and renames the coin twice (stealing the name of the real dash from their community), I don't think you can claim Monero is following xcoin's shadow.

Monero: building the coin, before they offer bells and whistles. Fairly launched. The best privacy solution available. Dash can't claim any of those things.


Monero and Dash are both worthless bagholder coins.

Name 10 shops in real life were you are able to pay with either on of them.
You can't!  Grin

Technically you can use shapeshift (or xmr.to with Monero) with dash and moneroj to pay anywhere that you can with bitcoin. As to your point that there aren't places to spend Monero or Dash without those types of services, I'd say that i always viewed moneroj as a store of wealth and that the consumer side would expand once the official GUI was released and marketing efforts were made in earnest by the community and developers. If that makes me a bagholder, then I'm a bagholder.  Wink
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September 14, 2015, 06:18:01 AM
#30
Woah, surely you care since you reply to every DASH thread or anything related to Evan. Jealous of he's success and media coverage he gets while all you're SPAM here isn't working. Nor you or the other 29 Monero developers  can compete with he's coding skills but I have to give it to you when it comes to misquoting and copy pasting skills.

I want an exist? why would I say I have 14.5k Dash that is not mine in BTCtalk! I believe in Dash since it offers new things and Dash team keeps updating new things ALWAYS, many tests happening  and even innovation ways for crypto. Yet I want an exist?? keep at it since all you do is cry|p|to about it here into forums this is why I don't buy Monero because you are a very jealous person just like many of Monero trolls here who are no good but selling hot air.

I only mentioned the Finnish flag because you're biggest Monero holders are from Finland Rpietila & Cryptomillionaire. So in Monero side they claim the bad launch happened and new ppl came and took control but that is a lie it is the same ppl.

don't be angry with the 2 dozen Monero trolls here hopping up and down with rage at Dash's latest ground-breaking feature - pure decentralized governance and funding, meaning Dash is now the first digital autonomous corporation Cheesy.  

...because in true Monero style, they recently tried to do copy Dash and to the same thing,  but the furthest they got was adding a board on a forum Wink  https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required



Until  Monero jams a bunch of algos together (maybe they'll do 12 and call it Super X-12!), throws in a novelty toy and calls it a privacy solution, calls low confirmations insta-x-marks-the-spot-you-should-have-used-more-confirmations and renames the coin twice (stealing the name of the real dash from their community), I don't think you can claim Monero is following xcoin's shadow.

Monero: building the coin, before they offer bells and whistles. Fairly launched. The best privacy solution available. Dash can't claim any of those things.


Monero and Dash are both worthless bagholder coins.

Name 10 shops in real life were you are able to pay with either on of them.
You can't!  Grin
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 06:15:14 AM
#29
Woah, surely you care since you reply to every DASH thread or anything related to Evan. Jealous of he's success and media coverage he gets while all you're SPAM here isn't working. Nor you or the other 29 Monero developers  can compete with he's coding skills but I have to give it to you when it comes to misquoting and copy pasting skills.

I want an exist? why would I say I have 14.5k Dash that is not mine in BTCtalk! I believe in Dash since it offers new things and Dash team keeps updating new things ALWAYS, many tests happening  and even innovation ways for crypto. Yet I want an exist?? keep at it since all you do is cry|p|to about it here into forums this is why I don't buy Monero because you are a very jealous person just like many of Monero trolls here who are no good but selling hot air.

I only mentioned the Finnish flag because you're biggest Monero holders are from Finland Rpietila & Cryptomillionaire. So in Monero side they claim the bad launch happened and new ppl came and took control but that is a lie it is the same ppl.

don't be angry with the 2 dozen Monero trolls here hopping up and down with rage at Dash's latest ground-breaking feature - pure decentralized governance and funding, meaning Dash is now the first digital autonomous corporation Cheesy.  

...because in true Monero style, they recently tried to do copy Dash and to the same thing,  but the furthest they got was adding a board on a forum Wink  https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required



Until  Monero jams a bunch of algos together (maybe they'll do 12 and call it Super X-12!), throws in a novelty toy and calls it a privacy solution, calls low confirmations insta-x-marks-the-spot-you-should-have-used-more-confirmations and renames the coin twice (stealing the name of the real dash from their community), I don't think you can claim Monero is following xcoin's shadow.

Monero: building the coin, before they offer bells and whistles. Fairly launched. The best privacy solution available. Dash can't claim any of those things.
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September 14, 2015, 05:36:19 AM
#28
Woah, surely you care since you reply to every DASH thread or anything related to Evan. Jealous of he's success and media coverage he gets while all you're SPAM here isn't working. Nor you or the other 29 Monero developers  can compete with he's coding skills but I have to give it to you when it comes to misquoting and copy pasting skills.

I want an exist? why would I say I have 14.5k Dash that is not mine in BTCtalk! I believe in Dash since it offers new things and Dash team keeps updating new things ALWAYS, many tests happening  and even innovation ways for crypto. Yet I want an exist?? keep at it since all you do is cry|p|to about it here into forums this is why I don't buy Monero because you are a very jealous person just like many of Monero trolls here who are no good but selling hot air.

I only mentioned the Finnish flag because you're biggest Monero holders are from Finland Rpietila & Cryptomillionaire. So in Monero side they claim the bad launch happened and new ppl came and took control but that is a lie it is the same ppl.

don't be angry with the 2 dozen Monero trolls here hopping up and down with rage at Dash's latest ground-breaking feature - pure decentralized governance and funding from the blockchain, meaning Dash is now the first digital autonomous corporation Cheesy.  

...because in true Monero style, they recently tried to copy Dash and do the same thing,  but the furthest they got was adding a board on their forum Wink  https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required

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September 14, 2015, 02:18:08 AM
#27
Woah, surely you care since you reply to every DASH thread or anything related to Evan. Jealous of he's success and media coverage he gets while all you're SPAM here isn't working. Nor you or the other 29 Monero developers  can compete with he's coding skills but I have to give it to you when it comes to misquoting and copy pasting skills.

I want an exist? why would I say I have 14.5k Dash that is not mine in BTCtalk! I believe in Dash since it offers new things and Dash team keeps updating new things ALWAYS, many tests happening  and even innovation ways for crypto. Yet I want an exist?? keep at it since all you do is cry|p|to about it here into forums this is why I don't buy Monero because you are a very jealous person just like many of Monero trolls here who are no good but selling hot air.

I only mentioned the Finnish flag because you're biggest Monero holders are from Finland Rpietila & Cryptomillionaire. So in Monero side they claim the bad launch happened and new ppl came and took control but that is a lie it is the same ppl.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 01:03:17 AM
#26
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.

Yes, many people missed the launch. And the train. That is unfortunate.

The train left the station in January 2014 and arrived at its destination in May 2014. Did you sleep through your stop?

Unless you are pretty sure you can continue to beat this little game of greater fool, find an exit point.

Smooth why don't you ...



As for Dash, here's some good advice:



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Monero from teh start it had a Finnish FLAG on it's website

That, my friend, is sig-worthy Dash stupidity.
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September 14, 2015, 12:50:17 AM
#25
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.

Yes, many people missed the launch. And the train. That is unfortunate.

The train left the station in January 2014 and arrived at its destination in May 2014. Did you sleep through your stop?

Unless you are pretty sure you can continue to beat this little game of greater fool, find an exit point.






Smooth why don't you and the other 29 Monero developers try and make something out of Monero. Did you know Evan's work is copied by many other coins? X11, Masternodes, Instant transactions..etc.
What did ANYONE copy from you or the other 29 Monero developers? NOTHING. Instead the only thing you and the other 29 DEVELOPERS OF MONERO is COPYing and PASTing.

Did you all know that Monero people used to LOVE Otoh? but he sold all he's Monero because he said there was no Innovation or work been done on Monero beside one thing! Cry*p*to about other coins into forums instead of doing any Crypto work!. Did you all know That Repietilla The Finnish millionaire who hit it big just like Otoh did from owning many Bitcoins before the big run owns more than 10% of All Monero but they still hatin of Otoh because Dash is 5x higher than Monero aka Otoh made the right choice AKA how dare he get rich and we *Monero* DON'T!

Speaking of Rpietilla did you also know that Monero is a Finnish coin with a crippled miner so people also did mine lots of coins...if you know Monero from teh start it had a Finnish FLAG on it's website BUT THEY CLAIM TH MAIN DEVELOPER dissapeared and current ones are brand NEW developers  who has NOTHING  to do with the BAD LAUNCH or START.

Did you know that Monero spread hate all OVER THE FORUMS just look at every single Monero shill in this thread history and you will understand what I am talking about and YES you right including Smooth the Monero developer!

Their PR is basically swarm BTC talk with Monero threads and invade other ANN threads or any thread that is not Monero again check their history. In fact they will also claim that someone like Evan who is been interviewed by all the Crypto WEBSITES, MAGAZINES, RADIO talk shows is invalid but ask them did you be into any of these for some work you have done NOPE NOPE and NOPE, because it's simple they did not add anything to crypto except CRY*P*TO about it into forums!.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 12:10:44 AM
#24
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.

Yes, many people missed the launch. And the train. That is unfortunate.

The train left the station in January 2014 and arrived at its destination in May 2014. Did you sleep through your stop?

Unless you are pretty sure you can continue to beat this little game of greater fool, find an exit point.



legendary
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September 13, 2015, 11:59:45 PM
#23
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.

Yes, many people missed the launch. And the train. That is unfortunate.

Train is taking a shit. Maybe you guys should try changing the name again, that might spark some interest.
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September 13, 2015, 11:49:31 PM
#22
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.

Yes, many people missed the launch. And the train. That is unfortunate.
legendary
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September 13, 2015, 11:46:44 PM
#21
... I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

...

tl;dr, because the launch wasn't fair.
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September 13, 2015, 11:41:29 PM
#20
3. Did Evan and Otoh sell their shares? Give me proof of that and I'll take it back. Of course if either, or both, are selling it might explain why your buy support is dropping.   Grin

Otoh has stated that he has bought his coins from the markets, I don't think he is even a miner. If you want to call him a liar go ahead if you don't trust a man's word.

I don't trust anyone involved in DASH. The Bitcoin Devs I trust, the Monero Devs I trust, Anonymint I trust. I may not always agree with them, but I trust that their opinions are honest and the information they provide is thorough. Anyone who knows that developers mined 2 million coins in eight hours, but claim a fair launch, doesn't deserve my trust. If they wanted it, they'd pick better associates.

1. Has Otoh claimed a fair launch? I can't recall seeing that. Also, how could he know 2 million coins were mined by Evan and InternetApe in 8 hours if the total coins mined in that time period was 1.5 million, and there were other people mining as well?


Evan and InternetApe were the dev team when the coin launched. InternetApe dumped his coins when he left a year ago or something and he had the same opportunity to instamine as Evan. That fact alone reduces Evan's theoretical alleged instamine by 50%.

I don't know how many coins Internetape instamined, but do you have any proof that it was 50% of the coins instamined?

2. I don't have proof, but since this started by you making a claim that "majority of masternodes are held by those very instaminers" without any proof, I think I can provide the most likely case that they both mined similar amounts.

1. Re-read what I wrote, "Anyone who knows..." Are you telling me Otoh didn't know that the initial mining was absurdly fast and that Evan claimed it was an accident in order to technically not have a premine? Either he is a poor man's whale who doesn't know the gory details of what he's investing in or he is someone who uses his money to back sham launched coins--either way i'm not trusting that guy based on his word.

 2. The most likely case is that the scam artist are continuing to scam. But thanks for correcting me on 2 million; I'm sure you sleep better at night knowing it was only 1.5 million coins Evan and crew mined in eight hours. It's been so long since I've had to deal with a dasher that I forgot a few of the details. Thankfully there's a thread dedicated to the facts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-the-darkcoindashdashpay-instamine-matters-999886

1. I don't know what you're asking me to re-read, probably a language barrier as I was never very good in English. What I understood was you're saying you don't trust Otoh's word because he knows Evan and InternetApe mined 2 million coins in 8 hours, and that he claims it was a fair launch. If you meant something else, could you say it unambiguously, thanks.

2. If you don't accept my proposition for the most likely distribution between the dev team being that Evan and InternetApe mined similar amounts, then what do you think is more plausible and why? 40-60? 80-20?

And yes, that's the thread where I had to go check the numbers myself, I would've thought you would've memorized them by now.

1. At least one person understood what I wrote, so I think the fault lies in your cognitive dissonance when it comes to the reality of Dash's instamine and the BS that is Evan. Accident, please. He's either a fool or a liar. And Otoh is either a fool or practicing greater fool strategy. So yes, I don't take either at their word. I think I made that point clear.

2. I'm not going to try and discern how much Evan personally mined; all I need to know is that he was misleading others as to the launch time, was mining before anyone else had a chance--500,000 coins were mined in the first hour (check that), was offering to buy more coins, cut the distribution to benefit him and the early instaminers, changed the name twice to most likely escape the taint of his instamine, loaded a bunch of algos onto one coin which any cryptographer worth a damn will tell you is piss-poor design and created a shabby way to mix coins that just so happens to reign in more profits for those holding the most coins, which unless you are going to naively niggle over what is 100% verifiable, is most likely him and a few instaminers. You can play dumb with your money. I won't.

In short,  Buyer beware.

1. I think I know what you want to believe and imply, that is pretty clear to me. But the reasoning you decided to base that on this time didn't make sense as both of the premises for it were false afaik. i.e. how can Otoh know 2 million were mined by Evan and InternetApe in the first 8 hours as you claimed when only 1.5 total were mined in that time and there were more miners than just Evan and InternetApe, and I haven't seen him claiming the launch was "fair".

2. Well you have already made claims discerning a lot of stuff when it suits you like "majority of masternodes are held by those very instaminers" and saying Evan is a scammer instaminer so now all of a sudden not caring how much Evan mined seems a bit odd to me.
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September 13, 2015, 09:46:14 PM
#19
DASH released a Decentralized Governance by Blockchain System, embeded with vote function.
The masternodes are coming out to share 45% of mining reward. What do you think about it?
http://cointelegraph.com/news/115264/dash-the-first-decentralized-autonomous-organization

DASH's new "Megablocks" destroy any remaining resemblance between actual and (predictable) algorithmic emission.

Dumpers with tons of Madoff-nodes simply vote themselves more coins to dump.  Desperate bag-holders double down, trying to keep the price pumped to preserve their cargo cult world of make-believe.

Cointelegraph has no credibility, as they are in league with (or are) the Bytecoin scammers.  Funny how they report on every anon coin except Monero.   Cheesy
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September 13, 2015, 09:23:27 PM
#18
Ignore the Monero haters they are E-gangsters and all they do is cry*p*to about other coins into forums instead of creating and real crypto.
Go to Dash threads and learn by ur self those Monero still did not create any real thing except one thing, yup you guessed it speculating speculating and more speculating! and their PR is to sabotage any ANN thread or any other coin thread.

Look at Smooth he is a Monero dev and he is still crying here instead of doing any crypto they have 30 developers! yet they did not do 1% of what Evan did....CRY*P*TO more Monero developers and haters!!
legendary
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September 13, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
#17
this was the case:

last block with faulty rules:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/block.dws?4501.htm    500 coins reward

first fixed:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/block.dws?4502.htm    56 coins reward
legendary
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September 13, 2015, 08:33:59 PM
#16
3. Did Evan and Otoh sell their shares? Give me proof of that and I'll take it back. Of course if either, or both, are selling it might explain why your buy support is dropping.   Grin

Otoh has stated that he has bought his coins from the markets, I don't think he is even a miner. If you want to call him a liar go ahead if you don't trust a man's word.

Wasn't it shown on the blockchain that a large portion of his coins came directly from the instamine, and then after that was shown he admitted acquiring them that way?

I don't know what is meant by "from the markets" but I would normally interpret that as going on an exchange and placing orders having some or all of them get filled and withdrawing. It doesn't appear from blockchain analysis (unless my recollection above is incorrect) that is what happened.

I suppose in theory "the markets" includes any buyer and seller, but that makes his statement meaningless instead of deceptive.

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September 13, 2015, 07:51:10 PM
#15
I think DASH is a clumsy crypto-system and that Evan already proved with lowering the emission and nixing a vote that benefited the majority of holders that he is all about keeping the instaminer's profits secure and not about the larger (# versus %) community--but of course, since a majority of masternodes are held by those very instaminers, there are no worries of any vote that can't be bullied into their favor. But yeah, if you're all about symbolism over substance, can't read between the lines, or want to try winning a game of greater-fool-hot-potato, this is the coin you deserve.

Good summary. Evan & company are trying to extract as much value from DASH before it collapses. The higher they can push masternode rewards the higher the profits for them (the instaminers) since they own most of the masternodes.  Unfortunately this model is not suitable to attract new community members and will ultimately fail.
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