What do you think will be Trump's under the table move?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 10:31:24 PM

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Quote from: daiyuba1971 on February 02, 2017, 10:49:47 AM

The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.

Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.

I have read the reports from western mainstream media. They say that the two majority groups (ethnic Russians and Ukrainians) are happy under the Russian rule. The only group which is opposed to the Russian rule is the Crimean Tatars. Not my opinion. Just quoted from Western media.

You probably forgot to look at what the media has been bought by Russian. You still tell me that you need to watch Russia today to know the truth. Don't lie! There are many videos where you can see how not happy people in Crimea.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 02, 2017, 03:46:36 PM

donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.

Whatever has been going on under the table should be seen in the 2018 elections for Senate and Congress. My guess is that he will firmly sweep the table and the Republicans will keep their majorities in the two bodies. But only if he produces like he's promised.

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Quote from: Mersedes on February 02, 2017, 02:04:57 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 11:53:24 AM

Quote from: daiyuba1971 on February 02, 2017, 10:49:47 AM

The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.

Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.

I have read the reports from western mainstream media. They say that the two majority groups (ethnic Russians and Ukrainians) are happy under the Russian rule. The only group which is opposed to the Russian rule is the Crimean Tatars. Not my opinion. Just quoted from Western media.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 02, 2017, 05:01:24 PM

Quote from: bra4our on February 02, 2017, 04:14:33 PM

Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

no one from any of the blacklisted countries has harmed an american inside america other than normal crime as far as i can tell.

if you wanted to do terror you'd come to europe. way easier to get into and too pc to do much. as an upstanding non american white person you have to hand over your fingerprints and prove you're not scum to get in for a short holiday, let alone move there.

Man invented so many different ways to destroy other people closing borders will not help. You probably already forgot how was organized the September 11 attacks. Terrorism must be fought by other methods.

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Quote from: bra4our on February 02, 2017, 04:14:33 PM

Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

no one from any of the blacklisted countries has harmed an american inside america other than normal crime as far as i can tell.

if you wanted to do terror you'd come to europe. way easier to get into and too pc to do much. as an upstanding non american white person you have to hand over your fingerprints and prove you're not scum to get in for a short holiday, let alone move there.

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Quote from: bra4our on February 02, 2017, 04:14:33 PM

Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

Would you believe him if he said that after winning the election will give every American at the Villa on the ocean? You think that an old clown can do? He knows nothing about politics, and it will lead to the collapse.

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Trump is just keeping the promises he made to the people who voted for him. Its no secret that 99% of terrorists are moslems. And the fact also remains that these ISIS and other terrorist would be able to mingle with the refugees and come into the country. There is no database to screen them whatsoever.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on February 02, 2017, 03:46:36 PM

donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.

Trump a showman. Let it show and remained. It was impossible to select it in presidents. He brought with him into politics the scandal. Americans would vote more for Paris Hilton. She would have brought more politics and sex.

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donald likes things loud and obvious. the more insane they are, the more popular he seems to become. perhaps this is gonna be a very non under the table presidency. he don't give a shit about sugar coating things.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 11:53:24 AM

Quote from: daiyuba1971 on February 02, 2017, 10:49:47 AM

The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.

Who are you lying to? The whole world saw you hold a referendum at gunpoint. In addition, the referendum can not solve the problems of separation of the territory from the state.

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Quote from: daiyuba1971 on February 02, 2017, 10:49:47 AM

The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

The vast majority of the Crimean population (including the majority ethnic Russians / Ukrainians and the minorities such as Greeks and Germans) don't want to be a part of Ukraine again. Only the minority Crimean Tatars want to secede from Russia. Even if the UN conducts a referendum in Crimea, more than 90% will vote to remain in Crimea.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 02, 2017, 09:29:44 AM

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 11:15:34 PM

Quote from: tracktorr on February 01, 2017, 11:18:24 AM

In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.

So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.

With the exception of Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all of the prominent Republicans are going to agree with this plan. If peace is delivered in Ukraine, then the level of image boost which Trump is going to receive, will be unparalleled.

The world cannot return to Ukraine without Russia return all the occupied territories including the Crimea and compensation for moral and material damage. Russia must either agree with it or it will always be under pressure.

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Quote from: dirokkl on February 02, 2017, 04:39:08 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 11:15:34 PM

Quote from: tracktorr on February 01, 2017, 11:18:24 AM

In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.

So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.

With the exception of Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all of the prominent Republicans are going to agree with this plan. If peace is delivered in Ukraine, then the level of image boost which Trump is going to receive, will be unparalleled.

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Quote from: Xester on February 02, 2017, 08:52:36 AM

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Quote from: BCEmporium on January 31, 2017, 09:31:21 AM

All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.

In order to say that you need to understand the causes of unemployment. I think that first you need to solve the problem of payment. People should not receive benefits. They should get paid.

I know that after President Donald Trumps decision to impose travel ban to other countries there will be a million of workers from foreign countries that will be jobless. But after that event new business will replace the old jobs and so the economy will continue to move on. Though many protesters will go to streets to go against his agenda but Trump is fixated on his plan and will not be affected by those movements.
[/quVery foolish to think so. America has become one of the most developed countries of the world because we were able to establish on its territory the best conditions for life and work with the smartest people from all countries. Aren't you afraid that your place will be the China? Then, the US economy will simply collapse!ote]

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Quote from: yuiyuga on February 01, 2017, 10:24:19 AM

Quote from: Xester on February 01, 2017, 08:15:27 AM

Quote from: BCEmporium on January 31, 2017, 09:31:21 AM

All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

Trumps banning muslims on America is part or one of the step in his main Agenda that America is for Americans and with this he must place the American people as the first priority. The banning of immigrants was to make sure that the jobless Americans will be given a job instead of giving it to the immigrants. Trump wants to strengthen America by increasing employment for American People without the dollars getting out of the country.

In order to say that you need to understand the causes of unemployment. I think that first you need to solve the problem of payment. People should not receive benefits. They should get paid.

I know that after President Donald Trumps decision to impose travel ban to other countries there will be a million of workers from foreign countries that will be jobless. But after that event new business will replace the old jobs and so the economy will continue to move on. Though many protesters will go to streets to go against his agenda but Trump is fixated on his plan and will not be affected by those movements.

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Quote from: adidas on February 02, 2017, 05:32:50 AM

Quote from: BCEmporium on January 31, 2017, 09:31:21 AM

All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

What age is he now 70 or 72 I don't know but the fact is and is proven scientifically that the older the person becomes the less his brain thinks. He is an idiot to me and I underestimate him because at this age you cannot be the president of our great nation. He is lowering the dollar in order to spark exports while promised the opposite to get back to America abroad capital. Obama left the economy at top notch with only 4.7% unemployment while I think this dummy will make it go back to over 6.5% during this same year.

I agree with your opinion. Only from this does not become easier. The unemployment problem will worsen problems of foreign policy. If Trump to hold the presidency in 4 years, America will be back in the 30s of the 20th century.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on January 31, 2017, 09:31:21 AM

All this fuzz around the so called Muslim ban makes me wonder what will be Trump's undercover move.
This fuzz is creating so much noise, so it gives buffer for anything else to pass barely noticed or even unnoticed. You may see Trump as "an idiot", but don't underestimate him! He's a damn smart one!

Any ideas of what he might be seeking?
As for me I can't see through, have no clue, just that awkward sensation he's looking for something else.

What age is he now 70 or 72 I don't know but the fact is and is proven scientifically that the older the person becomes the less his brain thinks. He is an idiot to me and I underestimate him because at this age you cannot be the president of our great nation. He is lowering the dollar in order to spark exports while promised the opposite to get back to America abroad capital. Obama left the economy at top notch with only 4.7% unemployment while I think this dummy will make it go back to over 6.5% during this same year.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 01, 2017, 11:15:34 PM

Quote from: tracktorr on February 01, 2017, 11:18:24 AM

In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.

So Putin wants. In fact, the U.S. will never recognize Russian Crimea. Even if Trump will try to make Congress declare impeachment proceedings. And Russian already dreaming about how you are going to agree.

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nothing is going to go unnoticed with this administration. Atleast nothing that would need a cover in the form of a Muslim ban

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Quote from: tracktorr on February 01, 2017, 11:18:24 AM

In the fall of 2015 trump claimed that Russia attacked Ukraine because it does not respect Barack Obama. But he does nothing that Putin respected him. The silence of the Kremlin perceives as a weakness and it is possible that he will go on

Putin and Trump will reach some sort of a compromise. It seems like Trump will recognize Russia's claim on Crimea (he has already stated this), in return for Donbass returning to Ukraine. But it needs to be seen whether Putin will agree with this idea.

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