Topic: What happened to BitcoinTalk in the last years? (Read 469 times)

Companies choosed to advertise in this forum and the people see it as an opportunity, and the site wants to keep going so I don't think that nothing changed, everyone just wants to survive and none of the people I have mentioned is an exception.

There are millions of registered bitcointalk users but we can never get them all to post reasonable, constructive and quality things every time. The decline in the quality of posts is not only caused by the large number of newbie who do not have sufficient knowledge, we can still find more veteran members who also post the same thing regardless of the quality. Directing them to post quality things is a must in my opinion, it's an effort to improve the quality of the forum. But we're also not short on options to keep it clean as the report to moderator button is still pretty useful today. If warnings and input from forum contributors via replies or a thread are not heeded, then this button will provide extra benefits for all of us who care about forum cleanliness.

See there are some good and positive points along with some negative factors also if we make comparisons of Bitcoin talk related to current and past changes.This is my assumptions related to the same :

Those who use forum as profits and earnings perspective then for sure they have gained a lot like the bitcoin rates have improved as they are still trading above $45k and campaigns paying in btc still pay $50-$80 to hero/legendaries rank and for sure they are into good profits including all of us by the way.

The forum has also seen rise of the members from low rank to high rank after the implementation of merit system but due to making quality posts and good, healthy and effective contributions to the forum which is why they have gained merits from members who liked their ideas and posts.Many members have gained and are still earning merits by making such post.

The other case is that most of the newbies are misguided or introduced to the forum as some sort of income source on the primary basis and we see such threads daily on B&H section and other boards.Secondly there are members who are not able to gain any merits and have left the forum because they cannot join campaign due to merit restrictions or are simply spamming up the threads with no knowledge and writing off topics which is of no use.Newbies who are not into learning phase and implement the bitcoin knowledge are also joining the same race.

If we make certain analysis of Bitcoin discussion section also we could easily see the post quality have been degraded like most of the members don't know what are they posting like if there is any rumour or fake news in the market then without any investigation or finding out the details they will create the thread and later on similar threads carry on with same information.But in past there were some good discussions carried out by members.But now it is changing.

So my main concern was that there are some positive and negative aspects that have changed on botcointalk forum over all these years.

The standards in Philippines and Indonesia are also something I should have mentioned. If you have ever been on a cruise or you know someone who has or who works on popular cruise liners, they would tell you that the majority of the workforce comes from Philippines and Indonesia. Why? Because the money they will earn there after a few years of working, is enough for them to lead good lives for decades or until they die in some cases back home. That includes building and equipping a house and having enough for their families to be happy.   

If we're going to talk about the golden period of spam&shitposting, then I'll agree with that - because that's the time when signature campaigns were managed with bots that just counted posts without quality checks - I'm surprised you don't remember that since you're a member of the beginning of 2016. People who say that it was better then than today obviously have completely different criteria for good and bad, if we talk about the conditions that prevail in the forum today.

I'm not saying that it's perfect today, far from it - but for all those who used the forum to use it for profit, today it's much harder or even impossible to do what they did 4-5 years ago.

The merit systems was introduced with purpose of stopping the spam poster to rank up and this has been successfull to some extent as many members who were airpdropped the initial merits are still having the same amount of merit with them because they're not able to make any quality posts on the forum.There were still such posts and still they are continuing with the same pace and spamming up the whole threads as you could see the post quality being degraded every time.The campaign participants are just in rush to complete their signature campaign requirements and overlooking what the discussion is about and write off topics content which is full of crap materials.

The user base is also decreasing because the signature campaign required merits ams and members are unable to have any and eventually their sole purpose is not being fulfilled and they just leave th forum but it's good not to have any such members.

The golden section and the most main section of the forum is now turning to be full of such spam threads and newbies and other members writing up the same thing which is usually wrong information and misguided content.Whenever their is news in market whether it's rumour they just create similar threads about them without any investigation and posting the links to the thread and end up violating the rules also.

It was somehow golden period of the forum and you could see literally technical and well made discussion rather than seeking bitcoin investment advice and other spam threads we came across daily now and the well written threads are buried under the piles of such garbage threads.Speaking up of English then wr can see that most of the local board users are one's creating quality and effective posts on the forum in English as well and for those who don't understand it can always try to come across of their comfort zone and try to learn it.

I don't know if you had a chance to be here during 2016/17 or before, but for those who remember that time the forum has definitely changed for the better, at least in the sense that a large part of spammers, shitposters and scammers have been permanently deleted ( banned). However, I would not agree that there are no users who contribute to the forum and are not fluent in English (although it is not their mother tongue).


First of all, bounty campaigns are not nearly as profitable as a few years ago, and everyone knows that the number of active forum users has significantly decreased, probably for that reason as well. The statistics say the following for last 24 hours :


About 1400 brand new and newbie accounts are more than 50% active users, but I doubt they are unique users - account farming is still something people do - we see evidence of this every day.

I don't know if there are statistics for the period between 2015 and say 2018 for active users, but it seems to me personally that the total number was much higher than today.

I know people in the Philippines who make $80 a month for a full-time job... this includes working on Saturday and sometimes even Sunday. So even $40 a week would be a significant improvement. Not just because it would represent a 100% raise, but also because they would have a lot more free time to pursue other income...

Income is especially scarce in many parts of the world right now.

Regardless, if they are cheaters or not contributing anything of value, they've got to go. This shouldn't be a place where people float by writing barely coherent swaths of nothing that technically don't break the rules.

If you look at this source for example (I am not sure if it's reliable and accurate), and scroll all the way down where it shows several African nations, you would notice that the average monthly income for some of them is between $26 and $100. If a user from those countries managed to get into a signature campaign that paid only $40-$50 weekly, they would be able to lead a more than comfortable life. If they managed to remain part of the campaign for a longer period of course. 

I'm referring to newbies because most of them mindset is that the community of bitcointalk is meant to generate or earn a bitcoin,so they taught live is comfortable immediately they join a conversation group of bitcoin, and the question was not for entire forum user, i think from the beginning of my post i made it clear, and I'm getting almost two years here so i think i know some certain things that is obtainable,

You can have earnings on the forum from various job types

• Signature campaign ^{it can be shut down by the admin any time.}
• Community management
• Graphic designing (signature, announcement thread, avatar, etc.)
• Developer-related jobs

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What happened on the forum in the last year? Let me sum up from what I knew and remembered

• Bitcointalk Community Awards [Results of the Year + Quiz]
• [Vote 2020] Best Bitcointalk Interview
• Monthly sourced merit allocation was increased dramatically ^{after many request from sources}
• Lauda and Vod left the forum
  
  • Goodbye, world! (Lauda)
  • My last post on this forum (Vod)
• TECSHARE passed away. TecShare - Farewell my friend.
• Investigation about paraipan - 2020 edition. After many years, since 2014, the death of paraipan was conclusively confirmed (theymos agreed with this investigation too)

No, the question is why bitcointalk has become overrun by garbage shitposters in the last X number of years, and I'd say X>6, because it was just as bad when I registered as it is today--though there's been maybe some improvement because of the merit system.

Say what?  I don't expect that if I asked you to clarify what you meant that you'd even see my post, but how the hell does a discussion forum provide a comfortable life for anyone?  For older members, sometimes it can make them want to pull their hair out, especially if they're trying to read threads in sections like Bitcoin Discussion.  That should be the most sacred of sections, and yet it's nothing but a wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling shitbox of crap.  Haven't you noticed that? 

Oh wait, are you talking about the desperate booger-eating bounty hunters who work for a month or more for a handful of scam tokens that they may or may not receive?  Yeah, that'll provide a comfortable life.

The question is that while thousands of people is joining bitcointalk today?
A) is because earning money?
B) is due to they are lover of cryptocurrency, especially bitcoin?
C) is that bitcointalk community is a source of living a comfortable live?
This question is actually meant for beginners like you to answer.

I see some similarities. First, to me that a newbie who registered on January 3 but only started posting two days ago is talking about how Bitcointalk has changed in the last few years smells funny.

Then, the first responder, he registered on August 4 but only wrote 3 posts since then and comes just today to respond to this one. The second responder, registered on July 5 and that same day wrote a few posts, but has a gap in his posts like the other two and the first thread he has responded to today is this one.

It is clear to me that they are somehow connected.

You are somewhat right, but not completely.
Indeed, too many are here only for the money. But on the other hand bitcointalk grew as a bigger and more diversified (international) community.
Clearly in the bigger the community is, the more the scammers, the spammers or the illiterate. Or those posting translated text.. 

Somehow I think that all this both good and bad. But I don't think that you can realistically have one without the other.
So, as said, get used to ignore the noise and you'll be able to easily make proper conversation.
I also recommend you start using the ignore feature. It can do wonders 

I had the same feeling at first, but I don't think OP is part of it.  The writing is too good, especially compared to the two posts that followed it (which I have no doubt are part of a farm).  Then again, what the hell do I know?  They could all be RainbowKun's alts or kwalxdrzdz's or whatever that dude's name was.

I merited your post because you obviously put in a good deal of effort, but Jesus....I probably should have read it in full before rushing to hand you merits, as the above quote (and much of what you wrote) just makes no sense.

OP, are you seeing why the forum ain't what it used to be?

Nothing superfluous is done by other members here, it's all for the good of Bitcointalk and Bitcoin, you can see the first Bitcoin launched by @Satoshi and now.

I think the current owner of the Bitcointalk Forum:@theymos, has left a message from @Satoshi for many people in this world to do something about Bitcointalk and Bitcoin.
You want to see the message, what is said by:@theymos, you can read carefully and understand the content.


With the message above, I think Bitcointalk and Bitcoin are currently growing rapidly.
Unlike what you see today, what you see is all just prejudice.

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And order another one, if you don't want to learn for yourself what @Satoshi has to say below.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6306
Ha, ha, which part is that....!

Sometimes when I'm emotional when I read something that doesn't make sense in my mind, I write very hastily, sometimes my left brain says bad and right one says good, so it's a mix between bad and good.

Why do I have the feeling that the first 3 posts in this topic are coming from a Chinese farm?

Bitcointalk is fiiine. As long as there are sig camps, people will always spam shit. That was the case 10 years ago and it is still the case. Remove sig camps and the forum activity will down to 1%.

Da fuk are you talking about?  And as far as this forum having "diversified content", if you want that go elsewhere.  This is bitcointalk, and altcoiners are lucky there's a section for that because Theymos threw them a bone when he created Altcoin Discussion and the rest of those spam-infested cracks of the forum.

OP, were you a member in the early days or something?  I've been reading posts on the forum since before I became a member, which was in 2015, and even then the situation was exactly as you described it.  The only time bitcointalk wasn't afflicted with the plague of signature campaign shitposters and bounty hunters was probably one day prior to the first sig campaign coming into existence, and that would be around 2011-12 (but someone correct me if I'm wrong). 

And yes, you hit the nail on the head--but if you browse through Meta, and I mean go deep into posts made in the last 5 years--you'll see that the shitposting dilemma has been discussed a lot.  Look at posts in Meta from December 2017-February 2018, and you'll probably be entertained.  That covers the period just before and right after the merit system was implemented, and Meta was on fire.

Welcome back if you're really an older member.

From past few times you can see such degraded posts that only ask how can they earn money but you simply tend to ignore them and move your own way and post in the best possible manner rather than focusing on them.Because they will set no firm future for them and not gain merits also with such posts and eventually leave the forum as their purpose of earning was not satisfied.