Topic: What happened to Yoshie? - page 2. (Read 1293 times)

Just now most probably I talked with Yoshie via Telegram. But it wasn't on the previous Telegram that we had talked. I asked him to sign a message from his staked address and he will do when he is fine. Although he used a new Telegram to talk with me, but he has remembered what we talked about last time on the Telegram. We have talked about two issues and he explained to me both clearly. According to him, He was injured in a car accident and all of his devices included mobile and laptops. And he isn't recovered fully yet. About Telegram username, he was used a disposable number over the internet and that's why he used a new Telegram username with the same avatar as previous. So he had been recovering all his accounts and changing passwords including his wallets. According to him still, he is fine with the lent amount from shasan.

Anyway, if the story is true, I wish him all the best. I hope he will recover very soon and come back to the forum.

Conclusion: I believe the account Yoshie still under the control of the original owner.

Exactly this. I don't understand why are people fussed so much about loan while person that lent him the money didn't tag him for loan defaulting or anything else of that sort.


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This would be the best as all we can do is to guess and make some theories, and nothing good and constructive can come out of it imho.

It's quite complicated to come to a conclusion just based on password reset. There would happen many things in personal life. Sometimes we express real-life thoughts via signature. Still, I don't think the account hack or stolen. Anyone can take a break from the forum and I don't see anything wrong with it. Regarding lending issues, we can't see any claim from lenders. So we shouldn't judge something so quickly.

Anyway, I believe Yoshie should come here and explain the real situation since a thread has already been created about him.

As long as shasan doesn't complain about it, the loan should be considered sorted.

YOSHIE's new signature doesn't look very positive, I'd say lock this thread and let him be.

I just saw YOSHIE being active again in forum today so maybe he can better explain what was happening with him and his loan, and talk more about his absence.
This should stop all speculation and clear the situation.

What is interesting to me is that he did password reset and made no posts for almost a month, and his loan situation is not clear.

... and with just three posts, who are you to demand others sign messages to prove to you that they are who they say they are?  Perhaps you should post via your main Troll account.

Good, that's what I've been waiting for. Now everything is finished. But the password has been changed during the period of inactivity, so everything will be fine if he can sign the messages he once did to this thread.


I don't expect it to be a threat to anyone who speculates about it as long as it's inactivity including outstanding loan issues. I hope he can sort things out with Shasan as quickly as possible personally or with the naked eye.

YOSHIE has online today.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yoshie-2363935

But he changed & updated his signature to this

First, you should know that I am not a user who hates YOSHIE and its contributions. I know that YOSHIE is a prominent user on this forum and he has been considered a gem that deserves to be here for a long time.

But you don't have to argue with me just because you care so much to keep seeing him here to help out the bunch of bullshit companies that have gone too far to scam people without paying them the right way. As I explained, in a precarious situation, someone who has a reputation in the online space can still easily change if it is due to money. You must admit all of this in a neutral way.

You just need to read more excerpts from the post interaction between YOSHIE and Shasan on the loan thread above before you reply.

Yeps and this is the deal. YOSHIE hasn't violated anything about the loan yet? You are completely wrong. YOSHIE was supposed to pay it off right in April after the duration was extended.
No, YOSHIE is not cheating but he can't afford the loan + the interest keeps increasing. In short, if YOSHIE thought it was a small amount, why does it never pay it off when eth prices were below $200 in April. In fact he didn't have that much money, and eth prices continued to rise. If YOSHIE didn't have $200 back then, how could he currently pay it off with the current $2000 amount?

I probably won't speculate further on this loan if the two continue to interact on the same thread. However, since the agreement was made, you have never received any information about the status of the loan except for the YOSHIE profile * active loan *. You should also know what the risks are if the borrower agrees to loan something whose price is very volatile. 1.5 eth back then was probably only worth $160/ eth and YOSHIE only had $240 loans at the time.

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I also hope shasan looks at this thread and provides some information on the status of the loans that are due. In fact, shasan is not too brave to say that YOSHIE has bad loans because of YOSHIE's reputation. But if that happens to someone else, then I'm sure he will do it right away. Even he was not brave enough to come here to dispel the speculation about the loan.

I like your neutrality in this case. Other people must also be neutral towards the case at hand. Regardless they know each other, support him, trust him. But in this case, they have to be neutral.

The loan should not be completed by PM when there is a lot of information in the loan thread between the two. 160 ETC + current interest is the amount that has not been paid since the maturity date is April 2020.

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You don't have to be shasan's long sleeves in this case. Better ask him to come here and say something.

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Now I want to speculate a little more, March 16 YOSHIE is still resetting passwords via email. I know he is still monitoring this thread until now and seeing the progress of his case. Some of the scenarios that can bring YOSHIE back faster are.
1. Shasan thinks this loan is complete.
2. Someone of you pays this loan to shasan.
3. Eth prices fell below $200.
4. YOSHIE won the lottery over $2000 and paid off the loan.

Once again, I emphasize that all of you must be neutral in the cases that occur in the forum. Regardless of who did it, reputation, position, neutrality had to exist. That's why you are needed here as a member of dt.

It has not been settled yet or new loan has been given. I didn’t ask lots of details. Just asked shasan if he had any loan with YOSHIE. As I mentioned above, there's a loan of 160 ETC (ETH Classic). I didn’t ask how it comes to ETC although.

The repayment date was 11 months ago. If YOSHIE scammed, I would expect shasan to have called him out by now.

Long-term loans in an extremely volatile currency are very risky, especially for people coming from a country with low wages. If he didn't have the $200 he needed a year ago, it's not very likely he'll have a much larger amount now.
But since there's no scam accusation, this may very well have been settled in private.

The loan  is still active, it's not defaulted yet, only Shasan, the lender can confirm if the loan is already defaulted or not. We could see a possible reason why he is not active anymore but we cannot conclude for now yet, he has a good reputation in the forum, I don't think he will waste that.

Check above about the loan and you will know how is good reputation person.

AFAICR, YOSHIE almost always had a quote of some sort in his/her skype field ^{[e.g. archived taken on June 04, 2020]}.

Unfortunately, there isn't a way unless someone kept archiving his/her profile page on a daily basis...
^{- I looked on various websites + google's caches but had no luck.}

I'm sure if that was the case, he/she would've warned the community. Hopefully, it has to do with good news like a newborn child that's keeping him/her away from this forum as opposed to the pandemic.

true, but you can't really blame the people or those who have interacted with YOSHIE to wonder and ask what happened to him/her especially when that forum member that has contributed to the forum and has a very good reputation suddenly stopped being active.

He was probably removed from BestChange due to inactivity. It started at Week 59 in which he only posted 3 posts for that week and no post for the succeeding week. The campaign manager may have messaged him about his lack of posting and probably warned that if he didn't make the minimum post for the following week, he can get removed from the campaign. I bet that is what happened.

Anyway, I hope YOSHIE is okay.

You can't really stop people from digging though, the experiences that we shared with strangers online is very addicting so when a person that we once shared was suddenly gone, I think that we should just let it be because if we were careful about our tracks online, I think that no matter how much many people search they will never find anything.

I didn't like your words. I’m not surprised where you don’t love YOSHIE or LAUDA. Probably people like you don't like people looking for scammers. But let's check how the forum will exist without you, and who will remember you after the moderators find out that you are breaking the ban rule?


Ban evasion.

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This is so early to call YOSHIE a scammer. He has been herr for quite long time. He has been participating in a good campaign which pays good. Why would anyone scam such a small amount despite? I believe he is in trouble in real life.
Regarding the loan, your calculation isn’t correct at all. Current total due is approx $2000 (160 ETC, I didn’t ask how it goes to ETC) I had a chat with shasan on this.
$2000 isn’t a big sum to scam for a profile like YOSHIE and most importantly he was in a good campaign.
Anyway, hope the best for YOSHIE and shasan.

The loan was not yet due so we can't attribute that to him for being inactive for awhile.

As of now, he has not violation yet as the loan is extended which understandable since most of us are suffering from covid-19 effect and the loan of shasan that time was lower than the current price, so that's another thing.

Let us not speculate more that could destroy his reputation, let us not judge him yet.

Anyway, it would be nice to see Shasan's reply here.