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Quote from: Minecache on July 10, 2022, 10:34:47 PM

I don't think the market will recover anytime soon and my portfolio has also dropped a lot but I am not disappointed and worried as I mainly hold bitcoin and not much for altcoins. You only lose when selling them in this bear season, not selling is not necessarily a loss.

To be honest I still haven't collected enough bitcoin and some of my favorite coins so I hope the bear market will last and not end soon I see this as an opportunity for us more is a disappointment. I will be very disappointed if bull season comes and I don't have any bitcoins in my pocket.

The idea of "I am not at a loss until I sell" is a true one, unfortunately many people think "but what if we sold at 68k and rebought at 18k? that would have been better right?" and forget that it is not important what you could have done, but what you could do from now on out. If you focus on what you "missed" then you are not going to catch up on what you have made so far and that is a very crucial part of crypto.

There aren't that many people who know what they are doing and that is a big problem. You need to realize that crypto is a future based thing, you can't make money from what happened in the past, and you could only make adjustments for the future in order to profit more.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on July 10, 2022, 03:31:47 PM

Quote from: Tony116 on June 22, 2022, 11:32:08 PM

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Unfortunately, the dramatic bearish era must be faced again, like what happened in 2018-2019. Many crypto projects have been dropping very drastically only in a few months, likely having dropped after many months. the drop in price of many crypto projects happened, moreover in the new projects. Yes, many new projects have been failed to grow, many top coins also cannot reach its previous ATH, sadly, several top coins also drop the price drsatricallya dn easily before reaching its good price. That is why many VC is also experiencing a very bad situation, regarding to their crypto project investment.

perhaps, that is the meaning of the bear season, we certainly see huge drops in prices and some projects go die. It is actually harsh to see but, we simply think that it was a part of the market cycle, we've done with the bull sean last year now, it was the time for the downsides and that is why we need to be prepared.

Seeing the current market sentiment, it can really be hopeless to see a huge pump rather than experience the dump. In fact, have had a few pumps in the past few days but seems it wasn't sustainable, dumps are still to follow.

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At the moment, there is a big price drop in the cryptocurrency market. And now all companies want to secure their funds in order to somehow save their funds. And for this, companies just go a little sideways to wait out this time. Personally, I think that this is a very difficult time for everyone and requires a lot of effort to keep funds completely safe. But sooner or later, the cryptocurrency market will soon recover and everything will be the same.

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Quote from: Lagduf on July 10, 2022, 08:42:38 PM

Quote from: D ltr on July 01, 2022, 11:03:59 AM

we should always be optimistic hoping that the crypto market will be fine and get better soon, even though the situation is very painful, stay calm and be patient.

I hope so but the result will be so difficult to determine. I meant with the current trend and it's very hard to think that if market will be recovering again as soon as possible. I hope that crypto will be recovering again very soon. So many people are also hoping the same thing like me. We have been loosing a lot of money due to the bearish trend. This bearish trend even make some people feel frustated

I don't think the market will recover anytime soon and my portfolio has also dropped a lot but I am not disappointed and worried as I mainly hold bitcoin and not much for altcoins. You only lose when selling them in this bear season, not selling is not necessarily a loss.

To be honest I still haven't collected enough bitcoin and some of my favorite coins so I hope the bear market will last and not end soon I see this as an opportunity for us more is a disappointment. I will be very disappointed if bull season comes and I don't have any bitcoins in my pocket.

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Quote from: Lagduf on July 10, 2022, 08:42:38 PM

Quote from: D ltr on July 01, 2022, 11:03:59 AM

we should always be optimistic hoping that the crypto market will be fine and get better soon, even though the situation is very painful, stay calm and be patient.

I hope so but the result will be so difficult to determine. I meant with the current trend and it's very hard to think that if market will be recovering again as soon as possible. I hope that crypto will be recovering again very soon. So many people are also hoping the same thing like me. We have been loosing a lot of money due to the bearish trend. This bearish trend even make some people feel frustated

It is not easy to face the bearish trend, I've been in the crypto world for a long time and have experienced bearish trends several times, but still
feeling tired of the current bearish trend. Especially for newbies who are inexperienced and have no knowledge, it is very natural for them to feel
frustrated in facing the bearish trend that occurs. It's true that we all want the bearish trend to end soon, and the bullish trend to come soon,
but the problem is no one knows when the bearish trend will end. All we can do is be patient and keep holding the coins we have. Don't ever think
about selling the coins we have at a low price, because as long as we don't sell the coins we have at a low price, then we have not lost, even though
our estimated assets have decreased.

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Quote from: D ltr on July 01, 2022, 11:03:59 AM

we should always be optimistic hoping that the crypto market will be fine and get better soon, even though the situation is very painful, stay calm and be patient.

I hope so but the result will be so difficult to determine. I meant with the current trend and it's very hard to think that if market will be recovering again as soon as possible. I hope that crypto will be recovering again very soon. So many people are also hoping the same thing like me. We have been loosing a lot of money due to the bearish trend. This bearish trend even make some people feel frustated

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Quote from: D ltr on July 01, 2022, 11:03:59 AM

It's very unfortunate that this happened, but maybe this is the right decision for them and aims to change strategies in investing in crypto after this winter, we should always be optimistic hoping that the crypto market will be fine and get better soon, even though the situation is very painful, stay calm and be patient.

it could just a gesture of them restructuring their investment, since it isn't an official statement coming from the investment firm themselves.
regardless i'm sure they have diversified their investment since they are investment firm that's like the basic thing in investing. the current luna crash could causes tremendous loss but I doubt it could drain their reserved fund.

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Quote from: Tony116 on June 22, 2022, 11:32:08 PM

What is going on with cryptocurrencies?
Is this a sign that the sharks are getting out of the market?
In light of recent events, do we seem to be entering the longest crypto winter in the history industry crypto.?

Unfortunately, the dramatic bearish era must be faced again, like what happened in 2018-2019. Many crypto projects have been dropping very drastically only in a few months, likely having dropped after many months. the drop in price of many crypto projects happened, moreover in the new projects. Yes, many new projects have been failed to grow, many top coins also cannot reach its previous ATH, sadly, several top coins also drop the price drsatricallya dn easily before reaching its good price. That is why many VC is also experiencing a very bad situation, regarding to their crypto project investment.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 05, 2022, 10:54:05 PM

It's obvious that the market is already bleeding, as we are in the crypto winter. There are a lot of projects that failed and dead already, investors losing huge money including VC.

And this recession even includes the riches person in the world, all of them are in the negative as far as their wealth goes.

So for crypto VC's specially with just that small capital, they've lost in this game, and can't recover in time. Others have opted out already, like the 2 VC that the OP mention because they can't take any more losses. Another lessons again, this happen in 2018 bearish market too, so history gonna repeat itself.

It seems that history is actually going to repeat itself, a bear market was a given taking into account we were experimenting a bull market not long ago, but I really wanted to not see yet another crypto winter as things were really difficult back then.

But it seems we are headed in that direction and there is nothing we can do to avoid it, however for the people that have already experimented a crypto winter things are not going to be that bad, the ones that worry me are the newbies as they are about to get absolutely destroyed once the price of bitcoin and altcoins in general keeps dropping.

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Crypto market is really unpredicted nowadays, we can't predict which company/token will go bank corrupt the major reason of all these Incidents is INFLATION that's in its all time high, that's effecting everything earlier we all had seen Luna UST and previous week we had seen celcius Voyager NOW devloping countries like India forcing TDX and Tax to community everything is getting worse but still i am really confident on the crypto and it's blockchain technology

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It's obvious that the market is already bleeding, as we are in the crypto winter. There are a lot of projects that failed and dead already, investors losing huge money including VC.

And this recession even includes the riches person in the world, all of them are in the negative as far as their wealth goes.

So for crypto VC's specially with just that small capital, they've lost in this game, and can't recover in time. Others have opted out already, like the 2 VC that the OP mention because they can't take any more losses. Another lessons again, this happen in 2018 bearish market too, so history gonna repeat itself.

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Current market conditions are very difficult to predict. we even now see that the fear indicator is still strong. which shows the bear market is still strong. although we hope that the bear market will end soon, but if we look at BTC, it still has the potential for a decline. then it looks like the bear market this time will be quite long. and we must be prepared for all eventualities. indeed many wallet whales are releasing some of their BTC. But small holders continue to grow rapidly.

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Quote from: Tony116 on June 22, 2022, 11:32:08 PM

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In light of recent events, do we seem to be entering the longest crypto winter in the history industry crypto.?

Why are we basing the next moves of the companies base on mere deletion of tweets only?
These are companies and for sure they will come back again sooner. They just didn't expect what happened maybe that's why they lost funds and there are many companies who lost funds in crypto as well so all of us are lost Cheesy

. They aren't bankrupt as of now so there is a chance that they will recover and come back.

With regards to your last question, we might enter the longest crypto winter or we might now but one thing is for sure though, that we are already in a situation where those who has cash left on their hand will be the ones who will get wealth after this bear market. We are in a survival mode for now and even those companies are. Companies going bankrupt, CEX halting withdrawals etc.

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I think they may have invested in a wrong way for which they are trying to delete all kinds of information. Alameda Research and Multicoin Capital are two major types of cryptocurrency investment firms. Such behavior of theirs can further accelerate negatively in the market. As a result the market will have to go through a long time bearish. I think this kind of impact after the Luna Celsius crash had a huge impact on other cryptocurrency investment firms. After all, I hope that by removing such obstacles, Crypto will get back on track again.

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They were not bankrupt yet but some problems might happen with all of them just like low liquidity. Im sure that if they were also having money that borrows from another institution but doubt about alameda was also facing that kind of problem caused by its exchange site is always generating more and more money everyday. I think that nothing happened with alameda. The venture capital wanna be more private. This is only my 2 cents about that.

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honestly i think it's kinda normal that some of these investment firm might declare bankruptcy in the middle of economic crisis since maybe they failed at restructuring their investment and as a result it incurred great loss to their investment.
currently it's hard time for any financial company since even stock quite literally just vanish some of its value like 50% into thin air. same thing with cryptocurrencies in general.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 05, 2022, 05:54:16 PM

Quote from: Tony116 on June 22, 2022, 11:32:08 PM

Two of the top VC funds in the crypto market, Alameda Research and Multicoin Capital, have deleted all tweets on twitter and unfollowed all the projects they are holding.
What is going on with cryptocurrencies?
Is this a sign that the sharks are getting out of the market?
In light of recent events, do we seem to be entering the longest crypto winter in the history industry crypto.?

We can't tell what is the reason but for sure they have, maybe it could be for their benefit or for the community. However, this will affect the trust issue from the crowd as we simply think about transparency as even social media posts like on Twitter aren't reliable enough but somehow we can use this also as a basis of our analysis. But, as long as we are in the right position, investing in potential projects these seem won't affect our portfolio as they are not the ones who could stop the demand and market growth. We can recovery sooner, that was the reality.

Making yourself get too attached with those social media sentiments or simply talks about fundamentals? Not really that ideal but somewhat it could beneficial on some point.
It do all matters on how you do react or do make yourself those decisions which could really neither give a positive or negative outcome.

Market is unpredictable as always and to those who are claiming to do make out precise predictions then its bullshit and they are scam.

No one knows on what would happen next because if market was predictable then lots had already made out some swimming from profits. Cheesy

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Quote from: Tony116 on June 22, 2022, 11:32:08 PM

Two of the top VC funds in the crypto market, Alameda Research and Multicoin Capital, have deleted all tweets on twitter and unfollowed all the projects they are holding.
What is going on with cryptocurrencies?
Is this a sign that the sharks are getting out of the market?
In light of recent events, do we seem to be entering the longest crypto winter in the history industry crypto.?

We can't tell what is the reason but for sure they have, maybe it could be for their benefit or for the community. However, this will affect the trust issue from the crowd as we simply think about transparency as even social media posts like on Twitter aren't reliable enough but somehow we can use this also as a basis of our analysis. But, as long as we are in the right position, investing in potential projects these seem won't affect our portfolio as they are not the ones who could stop the demand and market growth. We can recovery sooner, that was the reality.

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To understand whether they are leaving or not, you need to look at their open or closed positions, not their tweets on social media. Certainly, some funds are ceasing to exist on the crypto radar due to heavy leverage. Perhaps the examples of funds you mentioned just wanted to restart their social networks or changed their development vector.

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Quote from: Samurai trieng on July 01, 2022, 10:47:23 AM

it is very difficult to determine where the market will go next, but if you look at current market developments it looks like the market will weaken again, and maybe it will last until the end of this year, but that's just my prediction... but now is the right time to start investing in crypto , of course we should buy coins that have strong fundamentals like BTC, ETH and BNB, these coins have a great chance to grow higher in the future.

This is the right way to deal with the current bear market, we need to buy an asset when it is cheap, however we cannot simply buy any coin, hold it and then get amazing profits, we need to invest in some of the best projects available.

Fortunately for us in this market this is incredibly easy, you can invest in bitcoin and if you feel like you can take a risk or two then you can invest in ethereum too, and if you can hold your coins for a few years then your profits will be better than whatever you can get in most markets.

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